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I believe you are correct, are you pulling to the front than on your left side?

Yes. As shown in the second of my two earlier photos.

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We need to adjust the website to show the 9mm 1911. Please put that in the notes and we will make sure it supports your pistol.

Noted. Perhaps I'll give y'all a try.


We'd love to hear what you think! Use coupon code SIG20 to get 20% off your order!


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Finally placed my order for a brace of these for the fabled Browning Hi Power - went with a “right side to rear / left side to front” to wear “upside down” on my left, bullets-up.

Thank you so much for expanding the product line and doing so very quickly, to boot!



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In thinking about the magazine positioning question, I realized that like most people I assumed the way I do things is the way everyone does it—or at least the way they should do it. The picture I posted above shows how I prefer to be holding a pistol magazine when inserting it into the magazine well. Grasping the mag with my index finger along the front and pointing in the direction I want the mag to go seems to help me guide it into place most accurately.

The reason, though, I specify pistol magazine is because I don’t hold AR-style mags like that when loading. I use what has been referred to as the “beer can” grip on the mag, which is similar to this.



I wrap all my fingers and thumb around the magazine as if holding a hammer (or beer can) and don’t extend my index finger along the front to help guide it into place. That’s for a couple of reasons, but it also means when I’m carrying an AR mag in a pouch on my belt or in a thigh rig, the bullets face to the rear, not to the front as if it were a pistol magazine that I grasp in my picture above.

(The grip on the magazine that ensigmatic pictured isn’t exactly the beer can grip because the thumb is extended along the back of the mag rather than being wrapped around, and that can serve the same purpose of guiding it into place as the index finger along the front.)

I can therefore see that if I used the beer can grip or as gripped by ensigmatic with a pistol magazine being carried anywhere from 6 to 12 o’clock, I’d want the bullets pointing to the rear (vertical carry) or down (horizontal carry).

Magazine positioning is such an easy thing to correct that with a little guidance the officers I train quickly understand the principles involved. What does surprise me is that many of them don’t get that training before I have a chance to observe how they do things, or if they do, they forget by the time they start a new job—possibly because its importance isn’t stressed.




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We'd love to hear what you think! Use coupon code SIG20 to get 20% off your order!

Well, I guess now I have to try one

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I can therefore see that if I used the beer can grip or as gripped by ensigmatic with a pistol magazine being carried anywhere from 6 to 12 o’clock, I’d want the bullets pointing to the rear (vertical carry) or down (horizontal carry).

Think about a magazine in a mag carrier with high retention--as my two Kydex mag carriers have. Horizontal mag carriers, in particular, need high retention. I need a firm grip on those mags to get them out. So, yeah: Something similar to a beer can or hammer grip. Then my grip changes a bit as my hand rotates toward the mag well.



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Finally placed my order for a brace of these for the fabled Browning Hi Power - went with a “right side to rear / left side to front” to wear “upside down” on my left, bullets-up.

Thank you so much for expanding the product line and doing so very quickly, to boot!


Thanks for your order! We'll get these shipped out today!


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Order placed, magholderusa. I put a note in about needing it for a "Springfield EMP 3 9mm 1911".

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Just received my mag pouch in todays mail. Went with the "free shipping" option and saved $4. Seems like a quality product. Good doing business with you Ricky!


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Just received my mag pouch in todays mail. Went with the "free shipping" option and saved $4. Seems like a quality product. Good doing business with you Ricky!



Glad to hear it!! We hope you enjoy the Magholder! We'd also love a review on the site if you have time!


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I just got two Magholders for my P365. Both are left hand (off-hand) backward draw, bullets down.

The draw feels very natural, and the unit is really secure so you're not concerned that it might come off your belt or tilt the wrong way under stress.
 
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Ordered the Magholder for my 9mm Springfield EMP 3 on Monday, 22 Nov., at 11:00 EST. Since I got the SF 20% off discount I paid the extra $4 for express shipping. It was shipped the next day, UPS Ground, and arrived Monday, 29 Nov.

So, yes: Seven days for "express" shipping, but the Thanksgiving weekend intervened, so not too bad. (Ironically: Warhorse ordered his after the Black Friday free shipping started and received his on the same day. Grrr...)

Finally got around to trying it yesterday.

It works well. Mag has just enough retention, but not too much. Stays put on the belt. I'll use it.

One slight concern, though:



As you can see: With a mag inserted, there's quite a bit of excess room at the top of the Magholder. This allows the magazine to do this:



Now the little "latch" is no longer latched.

There's still sufficient retention, but that's not ideal.

Not certain how that could be solved without some kind of "spring" mechanism on top. Maybe doing a cut-out, similar to that mag latch, on the top, to exert downward pressure?



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I guess magholderusa has left the building?



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Ordered the Magholder for my 9mm Springfield EMP 3 on Monday, 22 Nov., at 11:00 EST. Since I got the SF 20% off discount I paid the extra $4 for express shipping. It was shipped the next day, UPS Ground, and arrived Monday, 29 Nov.

So, yes: Seven days for "express" shipping, but the Thanksgiving weekend intervened, so not too bad. (Ironically: Warhorse ordered his after the Black Friday free shipping started and received his on the same day. Grrr...)

Finally got around to trying it yesterday.

It works well. Mag has just enough retention, but not too much. Stays put on the belt. I'll use it.

One slight concern, though:



As you can see: With a mag inserted, there's quite a bit of excess room at the top of the Magholder. This allows the magazine to do this:



Now the little "latch" is no longer latched.

There's still sufficient retention, but that's not ideal.

Not certain how that could be solved without some kind of "spring" mechanism on top. Maybe doing a cut-out, similar to that mag latch, on the top, to exert downward pressure?


Sorry about that, didn't realize we missed your message. Let me look into this, that hasn't normally been a problem with this model. I will send you an email versus continuing this via the forum.


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Sorry about that, didn't realize we missed your message.

No worries. It's just that you hadn't posted since Nov. 29 and I was beginning to fear we'd seen the last of you.

(Nobody else commented, either, which I found kind of strange.)

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Let me look into this, that hasn't normally been a problem with this model.

I don't know as it's a "problem," per se. I don't know that it's not. It's just something I observed.

As I said: Not certain how it could be corrected w/o some kind of spring-like thing. ISTM making the top-to-bottom dimension essentially fit the mag nearly perfectly may lead to increased difficulty getting mags in and out from behind ones back.

Leather, Cordura, and so-on have elasticity. Your material, not so much Smile

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I will send you an email versus continuing this via the forum.

Certainly, if you like.



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Sorry about that, didn't realize we missed your message.

No worries. It's just that you hadn't posted since Nov. 29 and I was beginning to fear we'd seen the last of you.

(Nobody else commented, either, which I found kind of strange.)

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Let me look into this, that hasn't normally been a problem with this model.

I don't know as it's a "problem," per se. I don't know that it's not. It's just something I observed.

As I said: Not certain how it could be corrected w/o some kind of spring-like thing. ISTM making the top-to-bottom dimension essentially fit the mag nearly perfectly may lead to increased difficulty getting mags in and out from behind ones back.

Leather, Cordura, and so-on have elasticity. Your material, not so much Smile

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I will send you an email versus continuing this via the forum.

Certainly, if you like.



I want to make sure you are satisfied with our product!

And thanks for tagging us again! We have been crazy busy the past few weeks with fulfilling orders!


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I previously posted that I'd ordered two Magholders for my P365, and I've since ordered Magholders for my P229 and P320 in .357 Sig/.40 S&W. All four are designed for 9-10 o'clock left-hand draw to the rear, bullet nose down.

Ricky diligently worked with me to figure out the correct fit for everything, because I also have 9mm conversions for my P229 and P320. It turns out that 9mm magazines for those pistols fit great in the P365 Magholders.

It took a little experimenting, but Ricky found out that the DS model Magholder fits my P229 and P320 .357 Sig/.40 S&W magazines just fine. The small notch holes in the magazines won't exactly match up with the tabs, but the fit is very good and a tiny bit of grease or lube on the inner ridges will help break-in.

Ricky went the extra mile to research this and make sure everything fits properly, and I'm very happy with the result. After 30 years of carrying vertical magazines both on a duty belt and in an off-duty holder, I really like the horizontal setup he's come up with.

Great product, great customer service.
 
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I got one for my Sig 239. Works great!
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I was going to jump on one for my CZ P-07 but no joy. They list for P-10C (too short) and CZ 75 which I think is too long. I will email the owner and confirm.


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I was going to jump on one for my CZ P-07 but no joy. They list for P-10C (too short) and CZ 75 which I think is too long. I will email the owner and confirm.


Thanks for the comment, checking this site below, it shows the magazine dimensions for the CZ P-07 and CZ P10C are the exact same, just the magazine pad is different, which wouldn't come in contact with the Magholder itself. Because of that I will add that model to the site for you to order:

https://www.cz-parts.com/cz-ma...-compatibility-guide

Actually, to make it even easier, because of the wide compatibility of so many of the CZ magazines, we have created a CZ specific product page. See below:

https://magholder.com/collecti...tal-magazine-carrier


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Solves that problem! Order inbound! Thanks for the prompt response.


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Well just ordered one for my G26 with a note of love from SIGForum Big Grin Been looking for something like this instead of my spare mag in my pocket, not always keeping correct orientation for my practiced reload.




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