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Ok so like I'm a lawyer and stuff so I went to the actual rule book for the ITF Grand Slam Rules and found a few nuggets.

First off Article III A under conduct section provides that each player SHALL during all matches conduct themselves "in a professional manner."

Section P then goes on to define verbal abuse. Paragraph 3 sets out the following: verbal abuse is a statement....about and official or player that implies dishonesty or is derogatory, insulting or otherwise abusive.

This explains several things. Serena called Ramos a Thief, that implies dishonesty and is immediately a violation of the rule as "(a) thief" by definition is dishonest.

It seems that the men say a ton of abusive shit to the referee and Serena feels that they say "worse things" thus she should get a pass. What she is asking for is not permitted by the rules. Other conduct or insults are at the discretion of the referee to determine if they are sufficiently offensive to fall under the latter part of the definition (insulting or abusive). In that respect the official has the discretion to say "well the player has said mean things but it is not yet insulting enough to warrant penalty" that is discretionary.

However, a claim of dishonesty to the referee is not something the official has discretion over, that is immediately punishable.

If you look back and see the other players abusing referees, they may say a ton of bad things but they don't claim the official is a cheater. They may berate him/her call her an idiot, loser, blind, and stupid but not dishonest.

Serena is 100% wrong on this and any person who is in professional tennis who hasn't come forward to explain this is a fool and is harming the game. You can call the officials a lot of things but you can't call them cheaters.

Ya see, calling someone a cheater in tennis is a big thing. That is why we have coaching penalties, tennis doesn't like cheaters or the implication of cheating.



https://www.itftennis.com/media/277968/277968.pdf


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how many times did she say "this is not fair."

and then said "i get the rules, but"

Roll Eyes



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I don't follow tennis, nor have I ever.

I always respected her and her sister, given their accomplishments, but not following them at all. Until now...

I heard they booed the winner, Osaka???


I had the impression that the boo's were directed at the judges not Osaka.

Jim


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The lame brained, disgusting new Nike commercial names her the "greatest athlete who ever lived." Roll Eyes


I just remembered a controversy in the tennis world when last year, John McEnroe (disregard his in-court behavior, he is one of the all time best tennis players) basically told an NPR woman, who objected to his labeling of Williams as the greatest women's player in history, that if she was ranked along with the greatest men's tennis players, she would be ranked #700 Big Grin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0vw0AHsjFM

And he's right.



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For anyone who thinks I don't watch what I say in this forum, I'm bitin' my tongue so hard right now.
 
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How 'bout we remove all gender restrictions and separation from sports - drug tests for performance-enhancing steroids, of course....



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Why do we even still have separate male and female sports?

Isn't this 'separate but equal'?

As an aside, I'm tired of multi-millionaire black athletes dissing this country. Each one should pick a West African country where they think they could duplicate such success. Their slave ancestors who were transported here against their wills certainly suffered horrifically, but that was then and this is now.



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Why do we even still have separate male and female sports?


The top females tennis players wouldn't make it past the first round in a major. Yes, the top 128 men will win every day against the top female.

Really the only time women's sports are relevant are during the Olympics and world cup. They are just not as exciting and compelling as the male athletes (except beach volleyball). They therefore don't generate as much revenue for the networks and advertisers, and as result do not command the same compensation. boohoo
 
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As an aside, I'm tired of multi-millionaire black athletes dissing this country. Each one should pick a West African country where they think they could duplicate such success.


^^^ I second that.


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How 'bout we remove all gender restrictions and separation from sports - drug tests for performance-enhancing steroids, of course....


That would solve the whole "male identifying as a female" and "female identifying as a male", issue.
 
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Heard that the refs, umpires, judges (sorry not sure their actual title) are talking of refusing to work any of her future matches.


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Heard that the refs, umpires, judges (sorry not sure their actual title) are talking of refusing to work any of her future matches.


Good, fuck her, and anyone backing her on this. She has no character and has always been a bitch. I don’t care what color you are, male, female, play your game and act with some class.

The poster above who said Osaka is about to sign the biggest women’s endorsement deal in history, that’s awesome, and I’m happy for her. That’ll rub Serena’s ego right into the fucking ground.



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Yes, while I am against labor unions, I would happily make an exception for this one. And just the fact that this NASTY BITCH knows that the idea is being discussed is delicious. You can bet your bottom dollar that such a possibility never crossed this egomaniac's mind, and now she realizes that the judges have a way to fight back. Suck on that, baby.


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Yes, while I am against labor unions, I would happily make an exception for this one. And just the fact that this NASTY BITCH knows that the idea is being discussed is delicious. You can bet your bottom dollar that such a possibility never crossed this egomaniac's mind, and now she realizes that the judges have a way to fight back. Suck on that, baby.


That video you posted above, wow. That guy nailed it like a 550 ft grand slam home run.

And how great are the Australians? That newspaper doubled down, said fuck you to the SJW’s and printed it on the front page. LMMFAO. Hahahaha. If it weren’t for their gun policies I might move Big Grin



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