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| quote: Originally posted by dsiets:
Trump wins again. If McCain wanted to punish Trump, he would have insisted that he speak at the funeral.
True that. Looking more like McCain took a dive against Obama in 2008. |
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| quote: He wants Obama to deliver his eulogy.
That right there tells you all you need to know. |
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| I won't question his wartime service, but that doesn't excuse his actions since. |
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| Trump should hold a "Make America Great Again" rally on the day of the funeral. In the heartland where there will be huge crowds. |
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| quote: Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
Wartime heroism is not a lifetime license to be a lying, backstabbing, self-serving politician. His frequent betrayal of the GOP over the years - made worse by the fact that it was done not out of principle but for his own ego - completely overshadows his status as war hero. After his ordeal, he had the unique opportunity to serve Arizona and the county in DC but instead decided to serve his own interests. He loved being the Republican that the liberal press could use to bash Republicans. Despite what they did to him in 2008 when it mattered, he still seeks out their constant approval and praise. He relishes the role of Republican spoiler. He earned the nickname "Maverick" and it went to his head. He decided that would be his main function in Washington. He was like Collins and Snowe but at least the ladies from Maine didn't pretend to be something else. McCain has traded on his war record to amass personal power and he exercises it to aggrandize himself. He's no hero to me. The sooner he is gone from the Senate, the better that institution will be.
To paraphrase Clarence Darrow: I have never rooted for any man's death, but I have read some obituaries with great satisfaction.
Thank you for a great summary. It's all about McCain, and McCain alone, and nothing else. Bears repeating and a reminder to those who continually bring up his wartime service as an excuse to canonize the POS.
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| I have to say I hope Trump takes the high ground here. If there is anything less worth watching than CNN news, it would probably be a McCain funeral with an Obama address. If Trump takes the bait, the mainstream media will hype this must-miss event into a pseudo-state funeral, televise it live and give every Trump-hating fan of Obama a bully pulpit to chat during the coverage.
Seriously, there is not much to be gained by anything said to a brain-damaged ex-war hero, essentially on his deathbed. Yeah, enduring cheap shots is not Trump's long suit but he shouldn't have to dodge many more slings and arrows from this source. Sometimes, ego gets in the way of realpolitik.
TL: DR - Yeah, McCain is being an asshole, but when he is already dying of brain cancer....seriously, what more ill could one wish he befell? |
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| quote: Originally posted by kimber1911:
...Sad part is 133 of his fellow shipmates lost thier lives do to the incompetence of McCain.
Uh...no. I've seen nothing to indicate the Forrestal fire was HIS fault, he was merely sitting in a Skyhawk across the deck from the Phantom that launched the rocket. https://www.history.com/this-d...-on-aircraft-carrier |
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| quote: televise it live and give every Trump-hating fan of Obama a bully pulpit.
Have you watched the MSM? That happens regardless. Trump should take the high ground, hold a rally honoring wounded vets who actually still care about this country. |
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| quote: Originally posted by kimber1911:
Isn't this a time in McCains life when he should be more concerned with his relationship with his creator rather than displaying his bitter views and hatred toward others.
seems like McCain thinks he is all that matters, and above any such judgement
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| quote: Originally posted by Sigmund: quote: Originally posted by kimber1911:
...Sad part is 133 of his fellow shipmates lost thier lives do to the incompetence of McCain.
Uh...no. I've seen nothing to indicate the Forrestal fire was HIS fault, he was merely sitting in a Skyhawk across the deck from the Phantom that launched the rocket. https://www.history.com/this-d...-on-aircraft-carrier
If that's the case I apologize. My apology is for providing inaccurate information and should not be construed as a change in view towards McCain
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| can't that bastard just die already who the fuck cares what he wants he hates us, he hates America just get on with it John and make half the country happy for a change you have far outlived your usefulness
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| He's been brain dead for a good ten years. They may as well pull the plug.
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| I can’t stand him and the damage he has done to this country. When he is gone the left will hold him up in praise, the deep state establishment will say what a great man he was...I myself will take a deep breath knowing that a little more oxygen is no longer wasted.
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| My God, that’s unbelievably petty. Die with some grace, Senator
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| I want the President, Vice President, several Heads of State, and oh, through in the Pope too; to all speak at my funeral. I'm not Catholic but God knows I'm an important SOB. Give us a break John! How the hell important does this asshole think he is? Makes me want to puke! Rod
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| quote: Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
Wartime heroism is not a lifetime license to be a lying, backstabbing, self-serving politician. His frequent betrayal of the GOP over the years - made worse by the fact that it was done not out of principle but for his own ego - completely overshadows his status as war hero. After his ordeal, he had the unique opportunity to serve Arizona and the county in DC but instead decided to serve his own interests. He loved being the Republican that the liberal press could use to bash Republicans. Despite what they did to him in 2008 when it mattered, he still seeks out their constant approval and praise. He relishes the role of Republican spoiler. He earned the nickname "Maverick" and it went to his head. He decided that would be his main function in Washington. He was like Collins and Snowe but at least the ladies from Maine didn't pretend to be something else. McCain has traded on his war record to amass personal power and he exercises it to aggrandize himself. He's no hero to me. The sooner he is gone from the Senate, the better that institution will be.
To paraphrase Clarence Darrow: I have never rooted for any man's death, but I have read some obituaries with great satisfaction.
I see McCain no differently than John Kerry, they both exploited the Honor they had for nefarious gain. |
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| quote: wants Pence to attend
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| quote: Originally posted by Wasabibill:
He's going to die soon.
I don't wish him ill, much less dead, but... quote: Originally posted by Wasabibill:
Lots of things will be said about him for good or bad. I can't ignore his courage in service to our country.
I used to feel that way about him. No longer. I'm not even a conservative and feel he's spent all that capital a long, long, long time ago.
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