Well.....you see terror attacks are just part and parcel of living in a big city.

Yup, the knife thing IS real. But so is the fact that over 90% of the stabbing deaths are black on black over 'turf' or 'respec''.

Doesn't answer the problem, of course, but I'd hate for you to get the idea that the people of London are all running around stabbing each other 24/7.

tac

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
I don’t see it mentioned in the article, but one serious proposal from a few years ago that was reportedly made by a British physicians’ group was to ban knives with points: Yes, they pointed out (NPI) that pointed knives make it possible to inflict more serious, life-threatening injuries as compared with just cutting, especially with knives of the kitchen cutlery variety.

I believe that’s an excellent idea—for them, anyway, because it’s just one more logical step in the process of their self-emasculation and reducing the danger they pose to the rest of us. We wouldn’t have to worry about redcoats armed with stilettos burning the White House this time.

I'd like to see someone filet a fish with knife with no point. For that matter I'd also like to see a surgeon operate with a pointless scalpel.

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Originally posted by tacfoley:
Yup, the knife thing IS real. But so is the fact that over 90% of the stabbing deaths are black on black over 'turf' or 'respec''.

Doesn't answer the problem, of course, but I'd hate for you to get the idea that the people of London are all running around stabbing each other 24/7.

tac

Aaahhh, so pretty much like Chicago, just with a polite accent.

^^^

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Originally posted by tacfoley:
Yup, the knife thing IS real. But so is the fact that over 90% of the stabbing deaths are black on black over 'turf' or 'respec''.

Ah, yes: The ever-present elephant in the room that was obvious as soon as I opened the link.

good for them

they are getting absolutely everything they deserve, and then some

they must be so happy, so proud

its what they wanted, its what they got

not everyone is that lucky

I wonder what the popularity of unarmed martial arts is in the U.K. Krav maga and the like.

At one time, the English were big proponents of the walking stick or cane for self defense. And the Irish favored a Shillelagh. You can find some old time tutorials on line for their use.
Maybe its time to revisit days gone by. But that would probably get you tossed in the jug, too.

Knife free zone signs should help.

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Originally posted by tacfoley:
Yup, the knife thing IS real. But so is the fact that over 90% of the stabbing deaths are black on black over 'turf' or 'respec''.

Huh. Imagine that.

The problem is the availability of knives, is it? Just guessing.

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Originally posted by HERITAGE:
Wow, according to the gun grabbers here in the US, the UK should be a peaceful utopia flowing with milk and honey.

I am increasingly convinced that gun banners are at their core cowards, who can't conceive that evil exists in this world. Rather than deal with that somber reality and obtain the skills and tools necessary to prevail against evil, they hope for everyone to become as pathetically defenseless as themselves.

Eloi.

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Originally posted by Jim Shugart:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by sigfreund:

... For that matter I'd also like to see a surgeon operate with a pointless scalpel.

For most surgery, I use either a #10, #11 or #15 blade, that slides onto a scalpel handle. Only the #11 blade has a point. It's usually used to pierce a small area, such as an incision to insert an arthroscope into a joint, or pierce an abscess. #10 and #15 blades are rounded on the end, and have no point. The edge is used to make an incision (to incise). The majority of surgery that I perform uses a #10 blade for longer incisions, or a shorter #15 blade for more controlled shorter dissection. Besides incising with a scalpel blade, one can also sweep tissue, much like using a straight razor. VUMEDI is a web site that shows surgery, and you can also find quite a bit on you-tube. Most of what you will see is surgeons operating with a pointless scalpel.

One point is missing. you don't need a point on a blade to do things. If I can go through a joint by cutting ligaments instead of bone, I can use the same knife without a point to amputate and arm or leg in a fairly short time.

Once all sharp edges are banned, will frozen legs of lamb or the jawbone of an ass follow?

It's tough to be a ninja in the UK....

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...or religious purposes,...

Yes, I carry a pocket knife, religiously.

I looked into the reports about the "London murder crisis", and frankly it seems to be mostly media sensationalism. They are referring to there being four more homicide cases than in New York in February, and one more in March - after ten less in January, so NYC still leads 50:46 this far into the year.

Even sources like the Guardian who bothered to research annual numbers of the past went "if this keeps up, it will be over 180 murders this year!" Yeah well, welcome to good old 1990 then - the fact is that the yearly average since then has been 171. If anything, numbers in the last ten years have been decidedly below that, with a low point of 83 in 2013; which is probably why people are startled by half of that happening within the first three months of this year now. Meanwhile NYC celebrated a historic low of 290 last year, when London had 130 ... and really, I've never felt unsafe in either city (in Berlin, with 40 percent of the population, there were 40 completed homicides in 2017, so not too far from London's rate).



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_London#Murder

Uh huh. Yeah, everything's just peachy in London, just like it is in your country of Germany, huh? Sure, I believe that. No problem here, just made up stuff. Sensationalism and nothing more.
Europe is just fine and is not being overrun by filthy animals that have destroyed the continent.

....and two more shootings overnight - a 17 y/o girl shot dead and a 16 y/o 'fighting for his life' in two separate and apparently unconnected incidents involving young black/Asian kids.

Whatever else, the overall figures are actually down on the 2003 spike.

No comfort to the parents of the kids who got shot up, though, for whatever reasons.

From BBC -

Two shootings in London in the space of an hour have left a 17-year-old girl dead and a boy, 16, critically ill.

The teenage girl, named locally as Tanesha Melbourne, was found with a bullet wound in Tottenham on Monday night and pronounced dead at the scene.

Two miles away, in Walthamstow, the boy was found with gunshot wounds, with another boy, 15, who had stab injuries.

Both attacks come amid concerns over rising violent crime in London. Police say the shootings are not linked.

Tanesha, whose name has not been officially confirmed, was pronounced dead at 22:43 BST in Chalgrove Road, near Northumberland Park, Tottenham.

Police remain at the scene.

A friend described her as a "very lovable little girl in the community, she was not involved in any sort of problems with anyone".

'Just started shooting'
A 21-year-old woman who knew Ms Melbourne, told the BBC the victim was "just chilling with her friends" when she was shot from a car for "no reason at all".

"The car just pulled up and just started shooting," she said.

"Her friend came banging on my door so I came out quickly. I even tried to save her - had to, had to."

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The 17-year-old girl is the ninth teenager to be murdered in London this year
She said the gunshot wound, below the victim's breast, was not immediately visible and it looked like she was "having a fit".

"I put her on her side and I was just rubbing her back, saying 'Everything's going to be OK'. I just can't believe it - so young. It's ridiculous now."



tac

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Uh huh. Yeah, everything's just peachy in London, just like it is in your country of Germany, huh? Sure, I believe that. No problem here, just made up stuff. Sensationalism and nothing more.
Europe is just fine and is not being overrun by filthy animals that have destroyed the continent.

"Everything is peachy" would be of course a similarly silly statement to "filthy animals have destroyed Europe". But freaking out because London had slightly more murders than New York in two successive months with a similar-sized population is plain nonsensical. If anything, it shows how safe New York has become if they can compete with 1990 London numbers; the same year, there were an all-time-high 2,445 homicides in NYC, more than eight times last year's number ferchrissakes.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...City#Murders_by_year

When I was there four years ago, it felt a lot like Berlin - full of tourists, freaks and people who can't drive worth shit, but not particularly dangerous; and I grew up in a town of 10,000 where the last homicide was in 2010. Same for London the year before. And it's not like I never feel unsafe in any city anyway either; I've also been on a guided urban safari east of Washington Street in Baltimore, and driven on a street posted as a "safe corridor" in Camden, NJ when we missed the direct route to USS New Jersey on the same trip; which had quite the opposite effect for me.

So yeah, I know what a city on the brink of becoming a Third World urban hellhole looks like. Neither New York, London or Berlin are in that class; they're just big cities with standard big city problems, which also tend to concentrate in certain low-income, high-immigration etc. areas. If you're ever in town I'll be glad to be the guide for your own urban safari of the good, the bad and the ugly in Berlin to demonstrate that. No bug repellant required.