But wait, how can this be? They have the Lib/Left utopian "people" control in effect. Mayor of London Sadiq Khan requested an urgent meeting with the Prime Minister and Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police Service to discuss what can be done 'to tackle the evil of knife attacks on Britain's streets'. Help me understand.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...gs-just-16-days.html

I don’t see it mentioned in the article, but one serious proposal from a few years ago that was reportedly made by a British physicians’ group was to ban knives with points: Yes, they pointed out (NPI) that pointed knives make it possible to inflict more serious, life-threatening injuries as compared with just cutting, especially with knives of the kitchen cutlery variety.

I believe that’s an excellent idea—for them, anyway, because it’s just one more logical step in the process of their self-emasculation and reducing the danger they pose to the rest of us. We wouldn’t have to worry about redcoats armed with stilettos burning the White House this time.

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
We wouldn’t have to worry about redcoats armed with stilettos burning the White House this time.

Maybe a different kind of stiletto.

Maybe they do need ban all knives with points...

But then what would they do about all of the 'Assault Screwdrivers', and Machetes!

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
I don’t see it mentioned in the article, but one serious proposal from a few years ago that was reportedly made by a British physicians’ group was to ban knives with points: Yes, they pointed out (NPI) that pointed knives make it possible to inflict more serious, life-threatening injuries as compared with just cutting, especially with knives of the kitchen cutlery variety.

I believe that’s an excellent idea—for them, anyway, because it’s just one more logical step in the process of their self-emasculation and reducing the danger they pose to the rest of us. We wouldn’t have to worry about redcoats armed with stilettos burning the White House this time.

I was in England working with UK police at the time a law banning pocket knives with points was proposed by a MP. My friends in the Constabulary just shook their heads at the long list of lunacy. "They can't see the problem". They have their versions of Maxine Waters' as well.

Maybe don’t import a metric ton of shitheads and then elect King shithead to run the city? The U.K. is so lame when it comes to obsessing over disarming it’s citizens. I wonder why they tolerate such a heavy handed nannystate wannabe government.

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Originally posted by stickman428:
Maybe don’t import a metric ton of shitheads and then elect King shithead to run the city? The U.K. is so lame when it comes to obsessing over disarming it’s citizens. I wonder why they tolerate such a heavy handed nannystate wannabe government.

Perhaps because they lack a certain amendment by which they might guarantee government overreach...

Wow, according to the gun grabbers here in the US, the UK should be a peaceful utopia flowing with milk and honey.

I am increasingly convinced that gun banners are at their core cowards, who can't conceive that evil exists in this world. Rather than deal with that somber reality and obtain the skills and tools necessary to prevail against evil, they hope for everyone to become as pathetically defenseless as themselves.

Not the Empire I grew up with.


Q589: Are there any legal self defence products that I can buy?

The only fully legal self defence product at the moment is a rape alarm. These are not expensive and can be bought from most local police stations or supermarkets.

There are other self defence products which claim to be legal (e.g. non toxic sprays), however, until a test case is brought before the court, we cannot confirm their legality or endorse them. If you purchase one you must be aware that if you are stopped by the police and have it in your possession there is always a possibility that you will be arrested and detained until the product, its contents and legality can be verified.

However, accepting there is a lot of concern about street crime, we can try to clarify matters a little by putting forward the following points.

You must not get a product which is made or adapted to cause a person injury. Possession of such a product in public (and in private in specific circumstances) is against the law.

There are products which squirt a relatively safe, brightly coloured dye (as opposed to a pepper spray). A properly designed product of this nature, used in the way it is intended, should not be able to cause an injury.

However, be aware that even a seemingly safe product, deliberately aimed and sprayed in someone's eyes, would become an offensive weapon because it would be used in a way that was intended to cause injury.

Any products bought from abroad have a greater chance of being illegal.

The above advice is given in good faith, you must make your own decision and this website cannot be held responsible for the consequences of the possession, use or misuse of any self defence product. See Q85 for information on the use of reasonable force.

https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q589.htm

UK Basic laws on knives - It’s illegal to:

sell a knife to anyone under 18, unless it has a folding blade 3 inches long (7.62 cm) or less

carry a knife in public without good reason, unless it has a folding blade with a cutting edge 3 inches long or less

carry, buy or sell any type of banned knife

use any knife in a threatening way (even a legal knife)

Lock knives - Lock knives are not classed as folding knives and are illegal to carry in public without good reason. Lock knives:

have blades that can be locked and refolded only by pressing a button

can include multi-tool knives - tools that also contain other devices such as a screwdriver or can opener

Banned knives and weapons
It is illegal to bring into the UK, sell, hire, lend or give anyone the following:

butterfly knives (also known as ‘balisongs’) - a blade hidden inside a handle that splits in the middle
disguised knives - a blade or sharp point hidden inside what looks like everyday objects such as a buckle, phone, brush or lipstick
flick knives (also known as ‘switchblades’ or ‘automatic knives’) - a blade hidden inside a handle which shoots out when a button is pressed
gravity knives
stealth knives - a knife or spike not made from metal (except when used at home, for food or a toy)
zombie knives - a knife with a cutting edge, a serrated edge and images or words suggesting it is used for violence
swords, including samurai swords - a curved blade over 50cm (with some exceptions, such as antiques and swords made to traditional methods before 1954)
sword-sticks - a hollow walking stick or cane containing a blade
push daggers
blowpipes (‘blow gun’)
telescopic truncheons - extend automatically by pressing button or spring in the handle
batons - straight, side-handled or friction-lock truncheons
hollow kubotans - a cylinder-shaped keychain holding spikes
shurikens (also known as ‘shaken’, ‘death stars’ or ‘throwing stars’)
kusari-gama - a sickle attached to a rope, cord or wire
kyoketsu-shoge - a hook-knife attached to a rope, cord or wire
kusari (or ‘manrikigusari’) - a weight attached to a rope, cord, wire
hand or foot-claws
knuckledusters

Contact your local police to check if a knife or weapon is illegal.

Good reasons for carrying a knife or weapon - Examples of good reasons to carry a knife or weapon in public can include:

taking knives you use at work to and from work
taking it to a gallery or museum to be exhibited
if it’ll be used for theatre, film, television, historical reenactment or religious purposes, for example the kirpan some Sikhs carry
if it’ll be used in a demonstration or to teach someone how to use it

A court will decide if you’ve got a good reason to carry a knife or a weapon if you’re charged with carrying it illegally.

https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives

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Still trying to decide if the above is an April fools day post...

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Originally posted by gearhounds:

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Originally posted by stickman428:
Maybe don’t import a metric ton of shitheads and then elect King shithead to run the city? The U.K. is so lame when it comes to obsessing over disarming it’s citizens. I wonder why they tolerate such a heavy handed nannystate wannabe government.

Perhaps because they lack a certain amendment by which they might guarantee government overreach...

Also a cultural problem where being raped and strangled with ones knickers is morally superior to standing over your ventilated assailant while holding smoking gun.

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Originally posted by gearhounds:
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Still trying to decide if the above is an April fools day post...

No, I believe that's real. Perhaps tac will be along to verify.

AIUI: The UK has essentially outlawed self defence. Well, unless you can do so in such a manner as to not cause harm to your attacker, I suppose.

Read Joyce Lee Malcolm's Guns and Violence: The English Experience for an in-depth look at the situation.

Professor Malcolm's book will show you just where leftists want to take the U.S. And will, if we don't stop them.

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Originally posted by HERITAGE:
I am increasingly convinced that gun banners are at their core cowards, who can't conceive that evil exists in this world. Rather than deal with that somber reality and obtain the skills and tools necessary to prevail against evil, they hope for everyone to become as pathetically defenseless as themselves.

I think you are correct. It's the mentality that asserts "if I'm absolutely no threat to anyone, there's no reason anyone would ever want to hurt me". These are the type of people who probably have never been in a schoolyard fight with a bully, and have no concept that just because you don't pose a threat, doesn't mean that evil will not come find you. At best, this is the mentality that sets you up for evil to kill you last. It is, as you say, cowardice.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:

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Originally posted by gearhounds:
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Still trying to decide if the above is an April fools day post...

No, I believe that's real. Perhaps tac will be along to verify.

AIUI: The UK has essentially outlawed self defence. Well, unless you can do so in such a manner as to not cause harm to your attacker, I suppose.

Read Joyce Lee Malcolm's Guns and Violence: The English Experience for an in-depth look at the situation.

Professor Malcolm's book will show you just where leftists want to take the U.S. And will, if we don't stop them.

It is similar to the stupid zero tolerance crap we push in our own schools. When a bully starts messing with the wrong victim and gets their ass handed to the them, the victim that stood up for themselves gets the most trouble. We are slowly teaching our kids that it is wrong to protect yourself. England just has a few hundred years head start on us.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:

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Originally posted by gearhounds:
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Still trying to decide if the above is an April fools day post...

No, I believe that's real. Perhaps tac will be along to verify.

AIUI: The UK has essentially outlawed self defence. Well, unless you can do so in such a manner as to not cause harm to your attacker, I suppose.

Read Joyce Lee Malcolm's Guns and Violence: The English Experience for an in-depth look at the situation.

Professor Malcolm's book will show you just where leftists want to take the U.S. And will, if we don't stop them.

I was fairly certain it was factual, given todays date, was hoping against all odds. It is entirely believable, unfortunately.

It's almost like cultural hegemony and morality are more important than inanimate objects.

London is the California of the U.K. and headed towards becoming the Iran of the U.K.

RMD

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Originally posted by stickman428:
Maybe don’t import a metric ton of shitheads and then elect King shithead to run the city? The U.K. is so lame when it comes to obsessing over disarming it’s citizens. I wonder why they tolerate such a heavy handed nannystate wannabe government.

They get to feel our pain.
Sounded like what we got out of the White House a little over a year ago.


If they can ban knives, the violence will stop! It worked sooo well when they banned guns.

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Originally posted by CPD SIG:
It worked sooo well when they banned guns.

Or meth or cocaine or marijuana, or anything else declared "illegal".

from the article: Meanwhile, London's rate has grown by nearly 40 per cent in just three years, not including deaths caused by terrorist attacks.

Well that's handy. So all murder is equal except some murder is less equal than other murder. Keeps the rate manageable I suppose and doesn't scare the help, oops I mean the citizens.