"Freaking out"? Give me a break, huh? You're just an apologist for what's going on in Europe these days.

And yes, I said "filthy animals" because that's what they are- rapists, criminals, murderers, jihadists, and your country has welcomed them with open arms. But hey, it's cool, because by the time the crisis comes to a head, you'll be gone from this world. Someone else will have to deal with the collapse, war and final invasion that's coming.

No problems in Germany, either. Obviously, this entire video and story have been completely fabricated.

Look how peaceful are the poor, oppressed refugee "children".



Turks, Lebanese and Kurds.

State of Emergency Declared

Yes, just peaceful, oppressed, poor, misunderstood, well-meaning, refugeee "children".

Why don't you show us some more graphs, Banshee? That will make all of this TRUTH go away.

Just wait about 100 years for the inevitable news stories about eating garbage, and sorting lice out of each other’s hair.

Think it won’t happen there? Neither did Venezuela, Cambodia, Zimbabwe, Cuba, Lebanon...

The answer is always the same. Civilization is a hard thing to continue - let in enough internal (Communism, “Social Justice”) or external (immigration, Islam etc) forces and civilization collapses.

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Originally posted by reloader-1:
Just wait about 100 years for the inevitable news stories about eating garbage, and sorting lice out of each other’s hair.

Think it won’t happen there? Neither did Venezuela, Cambodia, Zimbabwe, Cuba, Lebanon...

The answer is always the same. Civilization is a hard thing to continue - let in enough internal (Communism, “Social Justice”) or external (immigration, Islam etc) forces and civilization collapses.

I think this needs a repeat. And I might add South Africa (in progress) to your list.

The problem I see, as you note, is that in the name of social justice, diversity, compassion, we allow people to immigrate to the US, which I believe is the right thing to do. But we adopt their dysfunctional culture, the fruits of which they want to escape, rather than have them assimilate the culture that built America (or the UK).

Apparently, having the ever loving shit kicked out of it twice in the past 100 years is not enough for Germany.

[John Wayne, Allah be praised]Why don't you finish the job?![/John Wayne, Allah be praised]

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Turks, Lebanese and Kurds.

And Germans, too, though you wouldn't know from the "Express". Which, true to British tabloid style, also doesn't back up its claim of "emergency state declared" in the text, because it wasn't; German press used the term Ausnahmezustand for the events, which can have that meaning, but generally describes an exceptional situation. A turf war between drug gangs is suspected. The description makes me think German-Turkish bikers against Mhallami-Kurds who came here fleeing the Lebanese civil war in the 70s and 80s; a fairly typical pairing in organized crime here.

You keep beating this strawman that anybody is claiming there are no problems whatsoever with immigrants in Europe, or maybe you think that this never happened in the past. I had to chuckle when somebody here recently posted a wide-eyed New York Times report about the increased criminal use of hand grenades in Sweden in which a local official declared "in 20 years, it will be like L.A. here!" Both he and the NYT didn't seem to know their own history, because the latter already covered the "Great Nordic Biker War" 20 years ago, when the local chapters of the Hell's Angels and Bandidos conducted some good old American gang warfare involving automatic weapons, hand grenades and anti-tank-weapons against each other all over Northern Europe. In Germany, the multi-day battles between Hamburg carpenters working in Berlin subway construction and local organized crime gangs as far back as 1928 spring to mind, with about 200 involved, 100 shots fired, several stabbed and two dead. Paltry by American standards of that time, but then so is the Duisburg incident for today.

Since you don't want statistics - my offer to take you on a tour of the local sights and hotspots if you are ever in Berlin stands. Individual eyes on the ground don't give the whole picture either, but it beats selective stuff uploaded by some dolt with an axe to grind and fed to you by some algorithm learning your personal bias by a long way. Seems too many people today are afraid to even leave their state, let alone the country, because the internet tells them how dangerous the big bad world outside is. Or maybe they need that conviction to feel better about their own modest life.

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Originally posted by BansheeOne:
Seems too many people today are afraid to even leave their state, let alone the country, because the internet tells them how dangerous the big bad world outside is. Or maybe they need that conviction to feel better about their own modest life.

You can take that and shove it up your ass. You're blind, refuse to see what's happening in Europe. That's not my problem. It is your problem, entirely. Don't come into this forum trying to tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about with respect to the topic at hand. You are fooling no one here with that stuff.

I don't have to visit the Arctic Circle to know it's damn cold. Nice try, but you are fooling no one.

I don't need to fool anyone, and I don't need to prove anything. People are fully capable of fooling themselves, and people here are also travelling to, or living in, Europe and experiencing the situation on the ground. I've said it before, no amount of what happens on some of a gazillion internet forum has any impact on the real world.

Back during the refugee crisis of 2015 I once stated on here "the situation is very critical right now, but it's not the end of the world". Some guy actually replied with no indication of any irony whatsoever "how can you say it's not the end of the world!" I stopped taking that serious right there. Because, you know, every day since the world has not ended. If anybody finds my information useful, fine. If not, no skin off my back; I tend to cross-post a lot across boards. I'm certainly not going to waste ressources on winning imaginary victories, popularity contests or closed minds on the net. That's it.

Do you work for Merkel?

Good, then we won't hear any more from you on the subject of these filthy animals overrunning and ruining Europe. Excuse me- filthy, violent animals.

The kind of propaganda you're trying to sell us- I can get that dishonest hogwash any day of the week on CNN, MSNBC, ABC, etc, and I'm not swayed by that crap any more than I'm swayed by what you're saying.

As I said, it's not really your problem anyway. You'll be in the ground when this comes to a head and your ilk wakes up and realizes that it's too late to save your country.

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Originally posted by stickman428:
Do you work for Merkel?

Merkel is not the first German leader to enjoy widespread support but ultimately bring their country to ruin. While Hitler was in power, he enjoyed fanatical support among the German people- that is, until Allied bombs turned Germany into so many piles of rubble. Or, can I not mention this history, since I wasn't there, watching the Lancasters and Boeings dropping their payloads?

Merkel is not yet to that point, but the chickens are coming home to roost, no matter how great is the the denial of the German people.

And, this time, there won't be any rebuilding after the fact, especially since a substantial portion of Germany will likely be highly radioactive. No, this time, the German people have screwed themselves for good.

To paraphrase Shakespeare, "the fault lies in ourselves and not in our stars that we are underlings".

Applied here, seems to me societies adopt the policies, cultures, norms that lead to their downfall. And on the whole, they don't see/admit their decay curve, or else they don't connect their decay curve to their choices that caused such.

From today's Breitbart:

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Khan’s London: Lead Surgeon Says Hospital Like Afghan War Zone, Two More Killed Overnight...

Hospitals in Mayor Sadiq Khan’s London resemble those in a war zone, a senior surgeon working to save victims of the capital’s surging violent crime wave has said.

The shock comments made Thursday morning come after two more men were killed overnight, a couple of days after another night of violence saw a boy, 16, stabbed to death and a 17-year-old girl shot in a “drive by”.

Wednesday night’s killings, both in Hackney, East London, brought the death toll from suspected murder in the capital to 50 so far this year, pulling away from New York City, which London overtook at the weekend. . . .

http://www.breitbart.com/londo...aughtered-overnight/

Nah, there's no problem. You don't live in Europe, y'see, and you are merely ignorant, living your "modest life". Everything's just peachy there. Europe is not committing suicide. The sky is blue, the sun is shining, the birds are singing. It's paradise, Allah be praised.

At least, that's what I've been told.

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Originally posted by BansheeOne:
I don't need to fool anyone, and I don't need to prove anything. People are fully capable of fooling themselves, and people here are also travelling to, or living in, Europe and experiencing the situation on the ground.

Some of us have friends and relatives in Europe.

What some of us are hearing from friends and relatives, and in reading between the lines in the dominant "news" media there, tends to belie the somewhat rosy picture you're endeavouring to paint. E.g.: One of my brothers in law was physically assaulted by a "disadvantaged immigrant" just a couple weeks ago. This was in a "good" suburb of a major European metropolis.

The picture I'm seeing, while not The End Of Europe As We Know It, certainly isn't reassuring. Sufficiently disquieting that my wife and I, having long planned to move to Europe after I retired, have cancelled that plan. There are several reasons. One of them is the refugee situation.

"State of emergency declared as 80 men brawl with MACHETES

A HORRIFYING street battle between 60 men armed with machetes and metal pipes forcing a state of emergency to be declared in Duisburg"

Same headlines, same article.

There were 60 or 80.

Anyway, did they actually get around to severing heads and limbs, or just snap their fingers and sing West Side Story songs at each other?

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Originally posted by RichardC:
"State of emergency declared as 80 men brawl with MACHETES

A HORRIFYING street battle between 60 men armed with machetes and metal pipes forcing a state of emergency to be declared in Duisburg"

Same headlines, same article.

There were 60 or 80.

Anyway, did they actually get around to severing heads and limbs, or just snap their fingers and sing West Side Story songs at each other?

I am sure if they required background checks for anyone who wanted to buy a metal pipe, then crime and violence would go down.

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Originally posted by RichardC:
"State of emergency declared as 80 men brawl with MACHETES

A HORRIFYING street battle between 60 men armed with machetes and metal pipes forcing a state of emergency to be declared in Duisburg"

Same headlines, same article.

There were 60 or 80.

Anyway, did they actually get around to severing heads and limbs, or just snap their fingers and sing West Side Story songs at each other?

Nobody was hurt. The police prevented the brawl.

https://www.focus.de/panorama/...acht_id_8680983.html