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Here is a report that is a bit repetitious of recent posts, but I hope Durham is going in a certain direction

Much earlier in this thread it was mentioned that Steele's report 2016/112 ( dated 14 Sep 2016 ) always seemed out of place. It talked about "Alpha" bank being tied to Putin. But the report never mentions any connection to Trump or even any other Americans. The question was always, why is this report here in the dossier ?

Then when (fabricated) stories came out about Alfa Bank secret communications to Trump, those stories were (apparently) completely separate from Steele's reports.

Now Durham has connected the dots.

Sussmann goes to FBI Counsel Baker and says there is highly technical data that shows Russian Alfa Bank systems communicating w Trump

And

Sussmann told Steele about these claims that were coming. Then Fusion GPS tasks Steele to whip up a story about Alfa Bank

Sussmann is guilty of things much much worse than lying to the FBI about him not representing a client when he talked to Baker.

Another coordinated multi pronged attack.

In the report below, the author misses the point about report 2016/112. The author writes "The allegation that Trump and Vladimir Putin connected through Alfa Group made it very easy to connect dots for the “collusion” theory of the 2016 election. It was one of the more explosive allegations in the original Christopher Steele dossier, "

except Steele never said that



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In Durham’s filing Friday, he revealed that Sussmann met in the summer of 2016 with Steele at the Perkins Coie offices, where he told Steele about the Alfa Bank allegations.

Durham states that after their meeting, personnel from the “U.S. Investigative Firm,” which Fox News previously reported is Fusion GPS, tasked Steele to “research and produce intelligence reports” about Alfa Bank, “which he did.”

Durham, in his filing, states that Sussmann “represented and worked for the Clinton campaign in connection with its broader opposition research efforts” and “took steps to integrate” the Alfa Bank allegations “into those opposition research efforts.”

Durham also states the evidence establishes that Sussmann “carried out his September 19, 2016 , meeting with the FBI in order to, among other things, further the interests of the Clinton campaign with assistance from” Fusion GPS.

In the filing, Durham also points to notes from a former FBI assistant director that state, among other things, that “the dossier’s author was hired” by Fusion GPS to “dig up dirt on Trump for an unnamed U.S. client.”

“The fact that FBI headquarters received on the same date both sets of information involving the same political campaign (Clinton campaign), the same law firm [Perkins Coie] and the same investigative firm [Fusion GPS] makes Steele’s involvement in these matters relevant,” Durham wrote.
 
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Hans Mahncke: Joffe has a filed a motion to stop Durham from obtaining four crucial Fusion emails. Here's Joffe's argument why those emails are privileged. Basically Joffe hired Sussmann to give legal advice but since Sussmann couldn't do it, Fusion did. Total hogwash.



Tech Exec -1 = Rodney Joffe
U.S. Investigative Firm = Fusion GPS

extremely litigious Presidential candidate = Donald Trump

So Joffe is claiming attorney / client privilege w Fusion GPS ? These people are world class conartists


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seen as a comment to above:

"So Hillary for America, DNC, and Joffe all hired Fusion GPS "to protect them from Trumps litigious nature" when in reality they were paying Fusion GPS to manufacture false information which they could feed to the media, the FBI, and CIA, via Sussmann."

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Attorney Client privilege does not apply when used to shield one from culpability in Criminal Acts!


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from Techno Fog:

Robby Mook (Hillary for America Campaign Manager) filed a brief yesterday.

Hillary For America (HFA) now intervenes in the Michael Sussmann case-

Says the Perkins Coie/Fusion GPS communications and work product is "privileged"

In support, Robby Mook swears under penalty of perjury that Fusion GPS was retained to provide "legal services and legal advice"




 
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What a lying schmuck da Mook is.



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and today, Fusion GPS files a motion to ask for protection for withholding documents that were subject to a Government Grand Jury Subpeona



As noted previously, classic Clinton strategy - get your lawyers involved in dirty work, and then claim attorney/client privilege

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Perkins Coie says that Marc Elias took the files w him




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here is detailed report by Techno Fog on this flury of filings.

Will just leave the link, but it will help explain what is going on

https://technofog.substack.com...ion-gps-provided?s=w

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What do we know of Judge Christopher Cooper, the Sussmann trial judge? The web isn’t very helpful.



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What do we know of Judge Christopher Cooper?

scary connections

appointed to U.S. district Court by obama in 2014
African-American married to Amy Jeffress (Jeffress is a former national security advisor to Eric Holder)

Cooper served on the Obama/Biden transition team in 2008 as an advisor on Justice Department issues

While in private practice, Cooper worked for Covington & Burling law firm. (The firm that Eric Holder is Senior Counsel on)

Cooper was at Covington & Burling when he was appointed by obama.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_R._Cooper
 
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Ever since this deal started heating up I have always been fascinated/sickened by how such a small investors pool of people run the show. They seem that they are all married to somebody else in .gov and/or worked with somebody else at a law firm. From the dirty FBI agents to to people in this case to the politicians themselves. Just corrupt to the core, right and left.
 
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in case there is anyone here who doubts who was controlling the attack on Donald Trump just before the Nov 2016 election,

as you now read that all the Alfa Bank claims were untrue and perhaps even intentionally fabricated,

from 31 Oct 2016




and now Clinton tweets:



Arrogant POS lectures on "disinformation and extremism w no accountability"
 
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Sunday Talks, Maria Bartiromo Interviews Ratcliffe About Durham

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/

START VIDEO AT 09:40 where the subject of the latest court filings by John Durham surfaces. Ratcliffe is optimistic that John Durham intends to charge more characters from the Clinton group with a “conspiracy to commit fraud” against the government.



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There have been a lot of filings back and forth from John Durham and Sussmann's lawyers.

Getting ready to go to trial

One game that Sussmann is trying to play - he claims that Rodney Joffe could testify and help Sussmann win the case

BUT, Joffe is worried about being charged too. So Joffe is saying he will plead the 5th if called to testify.

So Sussmann wants Durham to give Joffe immunity .

Ain't that convenient. Sussmann wants immunity for one of the key actors in this fabricated claim that Alfa Bank servers were being used to secretly communicate between Trump and Russia.

What an obvious and arrogant tactic from the Sussmann / Joffe crew.

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Apparently there was a slip and info about Fusion GPS communications w various news outlets was "public" for a brief period.

Remember how everyone was publicly running w the dossier and stories about Carter Page getting offered a huge deal from Russians Sechin and Ivanov?

Here is one of the communications that got leaked out:



29 July 2016. But the Wash Post kept quiet and let the lie run w Yahoo News


and of course it was indeed BS


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a long but informative report by Techno Fog:

https://technofog.substack.com...-has-hundreds-of?s=w
 
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Now Durham has raised issues over what DARPA was doing re the fabrications against Donald Trump.

DARPA = Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency

https://www.washingtonexaminer...ussia-saga?_amp=true

Department of Justice's Andrew DeFilippis said during a Wednesday court hearing the special counsel is scrutinizing Joffe, potentially related to DARPA fraud.

Joffe has not been charged with anything.

The indictment’s “Researcher-1” was identified as Manos Antonakakis , a computer scientist at Georgia Tech. “Researcher-2” is David Dagon , a data scientist at the Georgia Institute of Technology. Durham immunized Dagon in July 2021.

The special counsel’s filings reference Georgia Tech's "Agency-1 [DARPA] Contract."

Durham says Joffe "tasked" the computer scientists with mining internet data to establish “an inference” and “narrative” tying Donald Trump to Russia. Durham said Joffe indicated he was doing this to please certain “VIPs” on the Clinton campaign.

Antonakakis wrote in a July 2021 email that DeFilippis asked him about work he had done associated with DARPA, apparently also asking him about an online persona named “Guccifer 2.0,” whom U.S. intelligence officials concluded was created by Russian intelligence to assist in the hack-and-leak operation.

“I was asked point blank by Mr. DeFilippis, ‘Do you believe that DARPA should be instructing you to investigate the origins of a hacker (Guccifer 2.0) that hacked a political entity (DNC)?’ Let that sync for a moment, folks,” Antonakakis wrote to Georgia Tech lawyers in July 2021. “Someone hacked a political party (DNC, in this case), in the middle of an election year (2016), and the lead investigator of DOJ’s special council [sic] would question whether U.S. researchers working for DARPA should conduct investigations in this matter is ‘acceptable’!”

Antonakakis seems a bit uptight about the special counsel questions

Jared Adams - DARPA’s chief of communications:

“DARPA was not involved in efforts to attribute the DNC hack. Dr. Antonakakis worked on DARPA’s Enhanced Attribution program, which did not involve analysis of the DNC hack,”

“Further, DARPA was not involved in efforts to attribute the Guccifer 2.0 persona, nor any involvement in efforts to attribute the origin of leaked emails provided to WikiLeaks.”

“To the best of our knowledge, no DARPA-funded researchers investigated” the DNC hack, and he added the agency did not assist the FBI's or Mueller’s investigation into the matter.

so what is Antonakakis whining about ?


But now new emails have been discovered that seemingly connect DARPA researchers to Mueller and to the investigation of the DNC hack, despite the federal agency's denials of any involvement.

Dagon, who received immunity from Durham, responded to a grand jury subpoena from the special counsel last summer. Georgia Tech lawyer Jody Westby said in a July 2021 email to Georgia Assistant Attorney General Elizabeth Young that “at our direction, David made a list of documents/data sources that he thought would be responsive to the subpoena.”

This included four “ DARPA whitepapers ,” including

"Whitepaper on DNC attack attribution";
“Analysis of attacks of EOP (Executive Office of the President) networks”;
“Whitepaper for DOJ on APT-29 related hackers, crypto coin transactions, and
analysis that includes Yota-related domains”; ( Russian Yota phone-related allegations) and
a "Mueller List” described as a “list of domains and indicators related to APT-28.”

There was also a July 28, 2021, email from Young about Antonakakis that was sent to DeFilippis, again referencing Mueller.

“You indicated that there was a ‘fairly large file of Trump-related materials' that had been assembled for production to the office of Special Counsel Robert Mueller or the DOJ,” the email said. “We are unable to locate such a file."

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Georgia Tech and DARPA have some questions to answer

six years after this happened, and we are just finding out about it. Think of all the crap that went down that we will never know about
 
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Durham has wanted access to a lot of material between Clinton campaign, Perkins Coie, Fusion GPS, etc that is being claimed to be attorney/client privileged.

Judge Cooper has ruled he will do an In Camera Review. I think that means Judge Cooper will sit in his office and go over the material, and then decide if it truly is attorney/client privileged.

One of the ridiculous claims being made is that Fusion GPS was providing "legal advice" rather than "opposition research".

Techno Fog:

"Fusion GPS poisoned the public with deceitful "opposition research"

And now, to keep documents from Special Counsel Durham, the Clinton Campaign tells the court Fusion GPS was providing "legal advice""
 
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Hans Mahncke tweet:

Judge Cooper quoted from an email by Peter Fritsch (Fusion GPS) to a reporter in Oct 2016 in which the Fusion co-founder said to:
" do the f***ing Alfa bank secret comms story."

The judge said: “How is that assisting Mr. Elias providing legal advice? … That is assisting a media strategy.”"

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Techno Fog:

Laura Seago of Fusion GPS has been granted immunity

Seago was in a meeting w Marc Elias, Michael Sussmann, and Rodney Joffe. Seago claimed she would invoke the 5th and not testify.

So Durham granted her immunity for her testimony.

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The Clinton Campaign argued Fusion GPS communications were protected under privilege.

In response, Special Counsel John Durham just gave us the FEC reports detailing how Clinton broke election laws in her payments to Fusion GPS.

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Christopher Steele is not a cooperating witness and will not be called
 
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Laura Seago of Fusion GPS has been granted immunity

Seago was in a meeting w Marc Elias, Michael Sussmann, and Rodney Joffe. Seago claimed she would invoke the 5th and not testify.

So Durham granted her immunity for her testimony


Unless we can get more people to flip in order to get the really important people facing severe federal jail time, we aren't going to get to the bottom of this.





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Christopher Cooper shows he is indeed an obama judge

https://thefederalist.com/2022...from-the-grand-jury/

Tech executive Rodney Joffe may assert attorney-client privilege for communications he had with employees of Fusion GPS because those communications furthered Joffe and the Clinton campaign’s common interest, a federal judge presiding over the criminal case against Michael Sussmann ruled yesterday. Prosecutors will now be greatly limited in the material they may elicit from one of the two witnesses granted immunity in exchange for their testimony against Sussmann.

Sussmann, whose trial in a D.C. federal court on a false statement charge is set to begin on Monday, scored a victory Thursday when presiding judge Christopher Cooper rejected Special Counsel John Durham’s attempts to present the jury copies of emails previously withheld by Joffe, the Clinton campaign, and the Democratic National Committee as privileged.

The ruling came in response to Durham’s motion to compel Fusion GPS to provide the court, for in camera review, 38 emails the investigative research firm withheld from the grand jury based on the Clinton campaign’s claim of attorney-client privilege and work-product privilege. The latter protects notes, memoranda, and other communications capturing the mental impressions of an attorney, or those helping an attorney prepare for litigation.

Of the 38 emails, the court held that the Clinton campaign “had no valid basis to withhold 22 of” them. Those emails, the court concluded, did not concern legal advice but involved Fusion GPS employees’ interactions “with the press as part of an affirmative media relations effort by the Clinton Campaign.” “That effort,” the court noted, “included pitching certain stories, providing information on background, and answering reporters’ questions.”

Among the emails related to the “ordinary media-relations work” undertaken on behalf of the Clinton campaign were “internal Fusion GPS discussions about the underlying data and emails circulating draft versions of one of the background white papers that was ultimately provided to the press and the FBI.” Because those emails were not written in anticipation of litigation, but instead related “solely to disseminating the information they and others had gathered,” the court held the emails were not protected by either attorney-client privilege or work-product privilege.

Although the court held those 22 emails and the related attachments were not protected by attorney-client privilege, Judge Cooper nonetheless concluded that the special counsel’s office waited too long to file its motion to compel.

“As a matter of principle,” the court explained, it would not “put Mr. Sussmann in the position of having to evaluate the documents, and any implications they might have on his trial strategy, at this late date.” Accordingly, the court held, “the government will not be permitted to introduce the emails and attachments that the Court has ruled are not subject to privilege.”

the court’s conclusion that 16 of the 38 other emails remain privileged creates larger problems for Durham’s team. Eight of those emails also involved internal communications among Fusion GPS employees, the court noted, but because the court was “unable to tell from the emails or the surrounding circumstances whether they were prepared for a purpose other than assisting Perkins Coie in providing legal advice to the Clinton Campaign in anticipation of litigation,” the court deferred to claims by Fusion GPS’s attorney Joshua Levy and Clinton campaign attorney Marc Elias that the emails related to legal advice.

Given that Elias maintained all the emails were protected by attorney-client privilege, the court’s unquestioningly accepting his word seems strange

ya think ?

But it was the court’s ruling concerning the final eight emails that has the most immediate effect on the special counsel’s office, namely its prosecution of Sussmann for allegedly lying to former FBI General Counsel James Baker. The last eight emails, with attachments, consisted of two email chains initiated by Joffe to both Sussman and Fusion GPS employee Laura Seago. In opposing disclosure of the email threads, Joffe asserted that “the purpose of the [] communications at issue was to obtain [Fusion’s] assistance in cybersecurity and technical matters to allow Mr. Sussmann to provide [Mr. Joffe] competent, informed legal advice.”

The court held that Joffe’s communications to Sussmann were protected by attorney-client privilege even though the emails included a non-lawyer, Seago, because attorney-client privilege extends to communications by third parties that an attorney hires to facilitate “the effective consultation between the client and the lawyer.”

The court, however, ignored the fact that Fusion GPS, for whom Seago worked, was hired by Perkins Coie to assist the Clinton campaign and the DNC, not Joffe. And Joffe did not pay for Fusion GPS’s services, nor did Perkins Coie charge Joffe. Further, as the special counsel noted in its briefing of the issue, “Perkins Coie also had no agreement, contract, or other arrangement reflecting that Fusion GPS was providing services specifically to aid Perkins Coie’s legal representation of [Joffe].”

According to Joffe, he hired “Sussmann to assist him in a specific legal matter – namely, to advise him how to share sensitive information concerning an extremely litigious Presidential candidate with either investigative journalists or Government agencies without revealing his identity and exposing himself to potential liability, frivolous litigation, and/or threats of violence and/or harassment.”

So, in concluding a “common interest” existed between Joffe and the Clinton campaign, the court implicitly also found “the parties have clearly and specifically agreed in some manner to pool information for a common goal,” here the goal of feeding the press and the government the Alfa Bank hoax.

yesterday’s holding has broader consequences for the trial because, in closing its 11-page opinion, the court noted that it “will apply the principles set forth above to any assertions of privilege during witness testimony at trial.”

That means if prosecutors seek to elicit testimony from Seago, or any other employee of Fusion GPS for that matter, on various communications with Joffe, the court could rule the questions out of bounds based on attorney-client privilege. Given that the special counsel was forced to provide Seago with immunity to obtain her testimony at Sussmann’s trial, the court’s ruling yesterday represents a setback to Durham’s case.

classic Clinton tactic - involve lawyers and claim attorney/client privilege everywhere
 
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biden DoD still attacking Michael Flynn

https://justthenews.com/accoun...epay-speech-fee-even

Biden DOD demands Mike Flynn fork over speech fee even though he helped DIA spy on Russians

Army takes new action despite evidence showing Flynn sought prior DIA approval for December 2015 RT dinner, got briefed in advance and gave U.S. spy agencies a thumb drive of intel he collected on the Russians.

The Biden Pentagon recently alerted retired Army Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn it plans to recoup from him nearly $40,000 he received for attending a dinner in Moscow in 2015, claiming he didn't clear the speaking fee in advance and therefore violated the Constitution's Emoluments Clause. But documents from Russia special prosecutor Robert Mueller's investigation tell a far different story.

The documents, reviewed by Just the News, show Flynn in fact alerted his former agency, the Defense Intelligence Agency, ahead of the dinner and got approval to use the trip to spy on Russia's leadership and specifically its GRU military intelligence unit.

The operation was blessed in advance by senior DIA officials, including Vincent Stewart, the Marine general who had succeeded Flynn as DIA chief. The former Trump administration national security adviser was even given tasking orders and a counterintelligence briefing before he departed for Moscow in December 2015.

"The first week of December 2015, General Flynn asked if I was still in the European Center and told me he planned on traveling to Moscow to speak at an RT event and might meet the Director of the GRU," former senior DIA executive David Becker wrote in a sworn declaration that was submitted during the Mueller probe but has never been made public.

"We discussed potential topics of interest for the US intelligence community," Becker explained. "I told him I would arrange a briefing for him to include a Counterintelligence briefing before he departed to Moscow. We agreed that I would call him once it was arranged at DIA HQ.

The intelligence community was so excited by Flynn's opportunity that it sent a total of 10 experts to brief him on everything from what the U.S. wanted to know about "the Senior Leadership of Russia" to "important collection points of the GRU," according to the documents.

They also gave Flynn a "complete briefing on the intelligence potentially directed against him" when he was with the Russians.

Becker disclosed that when Flynn returned from the trip he immediately contacted the DIA.

The retired general "turned over all contact information he obtained on his trip and provided all the information he was sensitized to look for during the initial meeting, including providing a thumb drive of pictures and other information," the affidavit disclosed.

Flynn sat among and gathered information from some of the top players in Russia, including Vladimir Putin (whom he sat next to), his chief of staff Sergey Ivanov, his deputy chief of staff Alexei Gromov and chief Russian spokesperson Dmitry Peskov, according to information reviewed by Just the News.

The use of the dinner to denigrate Flynn's patriotism continues to this day. Malcom Nance, a former intelligence analyst who frequents MSNBC, got into an online confrontation with Flynn last month and claimed on Twitter the former general "LITERALLY ate Putin's bread SEATED AT HIS RIGHT HAND. He LOVED Moscow's cash & spent years nestled deeply in Vlad's cold, white KGB."

Malcolm Nance - Rambo of Ukraine

the Pentagon continued to investigate the RT dinner, and its inspector general concluded Flynn did not seek the Army's approval to accept the money, even though he cleared his dinner in advance with the DIA.

Last week, the Army's Office of the General Counsel sent Flynn a letter revealing the DOD planned to seek collection of more than $38,000 the retired general received as speaking fee and in-kind expense reimbursement through the U.S.-based speaking bureau that arranged Flynn's participation in the RT dinner. RT paid more than $45,000 to the speaker's bureau, which disbursed Flynn's share after deducting its own share.

"The Army has determined that in December 2015 you failed to obtain the necessary approval in accordance with Army Regulation (AR) 600-29 before accepting compensation from an entity substantially owned or controlled by a foreign government in violation of the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution," the letter stated, making no mention of Flynn's preclearance from the DIA.
 
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They will persecute Flynn and Trump until the day they die.


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They can try, but evil intent often backfires. Hoping Flynn ends up being in control of our military, and straightens this corruption out.

sdy, thanks for keeping us abreast of what is happening in this complicated case.


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