From the WSJ Editorial Board:

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Trump Really Was Spied On

Durham says techies linked to the Clinton campaign had access to White House and Trump Tower internet data.

By The Editorial Board
Feb. 14, 2022 6:53 pm ET

Special Counsel John Durham continues to unravel the Trump-Russia “collusion” story, and his latest court disclosure contains startling information. According to a Friday court filing, the 2016 Hillary Clinton campaign effort to compile dirt on Donald Trump reached into protected White House communications.

The filing relates to Mr. Durham’s September indictment of Michael Sussmann, a lawyer who represented the Clinton campaign while he worked for the Perkins Coie law firm. Mr. Sussmann is accused of lying to the FBI at a September 2016 meeting when he presented documents claiming to show secret internet communications between the Trump Organization and Russia-based Alfa Bank. The indictment says Mr. Sussmann falsely told the FBI he was presenting this information solely as a good citizen—failing to disclose his ties to the Clinton campaign. (He has pleaded not guilty.)

The indictment revealed that Mr. Sussmann worked with “Tech Executive-1,” who has been identified as Rodney Joffe, formerly of Neustar Inc. The indictment says Mr. Joffe used his companies, as well as researchers at a U.S. university, to access internet data, which he used to gather information about Mr. Trump’s communications.

Mr. Durham says Mr. Joffe’s “goal” was to create an “inference” and “narrative” about Mr. Trump that would “please certain ‘VIPs,’ referring to individuals at [Perkins Coie] and the Clinton Campaign.”

The new shocker relates to the data Mr. Joffe and friends were mining. According to Friday’s filing, as early as July 2016 Mr. Joffe was “exploit[ing]” his “access to non-public and/or proprietary Internet data,” including “Internet traffic pertaining to . . . the Executive Office of the President of the United States (“EOP”).”

The filing explains that Mr. Joffe’s employer “had come to access and maintain dedicated servers for the EOP as part of a sensitive arrangement whereby it provided [internet services]” to the White House. Mr. Joffe’s team also was monitoring internet traffic related to Trump Tower, and Mr. Trump’s apartment on Central Park West.

White House communications are supposed to be secure, and the notion that any contractor—much less one with ties to a presidential campaign—could access them is alarming enough. The implication that the data was exploited for a political purpose is a scandal that requires investigation under oath.

The filing suggests the data collection continued into the Trump Presidency. Mr. Durham says that on Feb. 9, 2017, Mr. Sussmann met with a second federal agency (“Agency-2”) to provide “an updated set of allegations,” and that these “allegations relied, in part, on the purported [internet traffic] that [Mr. Joffe] and others had assembled pertaining to Trump Tower, Donald Trump’s New York City apartment building, the EOP” and a healthcare provider.

(Late Monday a spokesperson for Mr. Joffe said in a statement that “contrary to the allegations in this recent filing, Mr. Joffe is an apolitical internet security expert with decades of service to the U.S Government who has never worked for a political party.” The statement added that “there were serious and legitimate national security concerns about Russian attempts to infiltrate the 2016 election” and that “respected cyber-security researchers were deeply concerned about the anomalies they found in the data and prepared a report of their findings, which was subsequently shared with the CIA.”) That could certainly use some elaboration.

The filing says the new allegations Mr. Sussmann provided—claiming suspicious ties between a Russian mobile phone operator and the White House—were also bogus, and that Mr. Sussmann again made the false claim that he wasn’t working on behalf of a client.

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The disclosures raise troubling questions far beyond the Sussmann indictment. How long did this snooping last and who had access to what was found? Who approved the access to White House data, and who at the FBI and White House knew about it? Were Mrs. Clinton and senior campaign aides personally aware of this data-trolling operation?

Mr. Durham’s revelations take the 2016 collusion scam well beyond the Steele dossier, which was based on the unvetted claims of a Russian emigre working in Washington. Those claims and the Sussmann assertions were channeled to the highest levels of the government via contacts at the FBI, CIA and State Department. They became fodder for secret and unjustified warrants against a former Trump campaign official, and later for Robert Mueller’s two-year mole hunt that turned up no evidence of collusion.

Along the way the Clinton campaign fed these bogus claims to a willing and gullible media. And now we know its operatives used private tech researchers to monitor White House communications. If you made this up, you’d be laughed out of a Netflix story pitch.

Mr. Durham’s legal filing is related to certain conflicts of interest in Mr. Sussmann’s legal team, and it remains unclear where else his probe is going. But the unfolding information underscores that the Russia collusion story was one of the dirtiest tricks in U.S. political history. Mr. Durham should tell the whole sordid story.


Appeared in the February 15, 2022, print edition.

If you see a suicide or two you’ll know they’re getting closer to the Hildabeast.

I seem to recall, way back when, Admiral Mike Rogers (I believe he was the chief of the NSA at the time) going to then-candidate Trump and informing him that his campaign offices were bugged, even in Trump Tower. And I seem to recall that Trump moved his campaign offices overnight out of Trump Tower to some other location. I have not heard or seen much of Admiral Rogers since then, does anyone know if he is around? Perhaps he is assisting the Durham investigation?

Latest Durham revelations put Biden's national security adviser in uneasy light

https://justthenews.com/accoun..._campaign=newsletter

Special Counsel John Durham's investigation isn't just imposing accountability for Hillary Clinton's 2016 political trick to dirty up Donald Trump with the FBI; it's also encroaching on the credibility of President Biden's current chief foreign policy adviser and point man for the current Russia-Ukraine crisis.

National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan was a senior adviser to Clinton's 2016 campaign and, by his own admission, spread the word to reporters back then that Democrats believed Trump was colluding with Vladimir Putin to hijack the election and had a secret computer channel to the Kremlin. Neither proved true.

But long before that Russia collusion narrative crumbled like a stale Starbucks muffin, Sullivan gave sworn testimony to the House Intelligence Committee disputing that anything the Clinton campaign spread around Washington was misinformation.

"Are you aware of any collusion, coordination, or conspiracy by yourself or by any other members of the campaign that you were working with to procure fake Russian information to harm Donald Trump?" Sullivan was asked in December 2017.

Sullivan responded without ambiguity. "I mean, you will forgive me if I want to say more than just an emphatic 'No' to that answer, because I find that totally absurd," he answered.

But Durham's court filings in two cases last fall — one against Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussmann and the other against the primary source for the discredited Christopher Steele dossier — call into question that assertion. Both defendants are charged with lying to the FBI.

Sullivan is not accused of wrongdoing. But court filings in those cases state that Sullivan — identified in the Sussmann indictment only as a Clinton "foreign policy advisor" — engaged in email traffic with other Clinton campaign officials and lawyers about a story leaked to the news media suggesting Trump had a secret communications system with Russia via a computer server at the Moscow-based Alfa Bank.

"On or about September 15, 2016 Campaign Lawyer-1 exchanged emails with the Clinton campaign's campaign manager, communications director, and foreign policy advisor concerning the Russian Bank-1 allegations that Sussmann had recently shared with Reporter 1," the Sussmann indictment stated.

"Campaign Lawyer-1 billed his time for this correspondence to the Clinton campaign with the billing entry 'email correspondence with [name of foreign policy advisor], [name of campaign manager], [name of communications director] re: Russian Bank -1 article.'"

That revelation places Sullivan squarely in the loop of conversations designed to spread a story that the FBI, former Russia Special Counsel Robert Mueller, and Durham's team all have deemed false.

A month after those email conversations — with the Trump-Clinton presidential race coming down to the wire — the story containing the Alfa Bank allegations surfaced in the mainstream news media in late October 2016.

And it was Sullivan who jumped into action, issuing a statement adding legitimacy to the article's claim. "This could be the most direct link yet between Donald Trump and Moscow," Sullivan said in the statement. "Computer scientists have uncovered a covert server linking the Trump Organization to a Russian-based bank."

His statement also gave his boss, Hillary Clinton, the opportunity to retweet it.

"Computer scientists have apparently uncovered a covert server linking the Trump Organization to a Russian-based bank," Clinton crowed in an effort to get the media to cover the allegations.

By the time Sullivan issued the statement, there was already substantial reason to doubt the article. The FBI was already telling this reporter and the New York Times that it had ruled out the secret communications channel and that the pings the computer researchers allegedly found could be explained by basic marketing communications.

Durham's recent court filings reveal that some of the very computer executives who were advising the Clinton campaign and its lawyer on the allegation strongly doubted the conclusions themselves.

Durham refers to emails between the various players who assisted the research that said they were looking simply for "an inference" or a "very useful narrative" that could make it look like Trump was in bed with Russia.

But the tech company executive who led the effort himself wrote an email two months before the stories were published casting doubt on the evidence.

"Tech Executive-I expressed his own belief that the 'trump-email.com' domain (referring to the subject of the allegations that SUSSMANN conveyed to the FBI) was not a secret communications channel with Russian Bank-1, but 'a red herring,'" Durham wrote in the Sussman indictment.



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Other participants in the research expressed similar doubt. "How do we plan to defend against the criticism that this is not spoofed traffic," one wrote in an Aug. 22, 2016 email.

So Durham court fillings not only establish the story was proven false, they also show there was reason to doubt it even before Sullivan lent his name and foreign policy credentials to it.

The court filings so far provide no evidence Sullivan was told directly about the concerns, but experts told Just the News that as the senior national security adviser to the Clinton campaign he had an obligation to check it out before spreading it to the media.

"If you're the national security adviser, or you're the foreign policy advisor for presidential candidate Secretary Hillary Clinton, you got to be able to look at the information and vet it before you make a conclusion," said Daniel Hoffman, a respected CIA officer who was the agency's station chief in Moscow.

"He never challenged his own assumption, and he never challenged the information he was receiving," he added.

Former House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) said he has concerns about the accuracy of Sullivan's testimony back in 2017 and the fact that today he serves as Biden's national security adviser. Nunes recently retired to become head of Trump's new tech and social media company.

"Well, it sure doesn't look like it," Nunes said when asked about whether Sullivan's testimony was accurate. "Because he was one of the propagandists that was out there all through the 2016 election that was promoting this, promoting this in great detail.

"Look, that seems like everybody who was involved in the Russia hoax was actually promoted. So if you were in the Obama White House, and you participated in this hoax, you got a major promotion, you got a new job."

Rep. Lee Zeldin (R-N.Y.), another lawmaker who played a role in exposing falsehoods in the Russia collusion narrative, said Sullivan should face investigation to determine what he knows.

"Just because you're getting paid by Hillary Clinton, just because you are Hillary Clinton, or you're associated with Hillary Clinton, you don't get some free pass from the justice system," Zeldin told Just the News.

Brian Stekloff, the attorney who represented Sullivan at the 2017 deposition, did not immediately return a call Monday seeking comment.

In his 2017 testimony, Sullivan argued he was justified in pushing the Trump narrative because the Clinton campaign felt under attack by Russia after allegations of hacked emails surfaced in the summer of 2016.

"We feared that we were under attack, not just by the Russians, but by a coordinated, with the Trump campaign as well," he said at the time.

In the end, every investigation that looked at the collusion allegations concluded there was none between Trump and Russia, although U.S. officials believe Moscow on its own did engage in hacking and leaking of Clinton-related emails.

Beyond the legal implications, experts said Sullivan's role in spreading a now-disproven allegation against a campaign rival could undercut his credibility with U.S. allies in his current role as Biden's national security adviser, especially during the current Russia-Ukraine crisis.

"I can't say what the leadership in Ukraine is thinking about this White House and the various characters who populate it, as well as the State and Defense Department. But I'm sure based on what you've just said, they have a lot of questions about pronouncements coming out from those very people about intelligence that relates to their life and death," former State Department adviser Kiron Skinner told Just the News on Monday. "I think that that would absolutely be the case."

Wouldn't it be something if Durham's report actually bore real fruit! The Democrat party as a whole not just Pelosi and company but those in and around the squad want to be rid of the Clinton's in particular Hillary. This is where Hillary's biggest threat comes from. She has made overtures to running again. If she gets too far down that road I think the Dems throw her hard under the Durham bus.

what about treason charges against Nadler and Schiff for trying to overthrow the government by faking an impeachment they knew was fabricated

I want to see those assholes in front of a firing squad

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Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
Wouldn't it be something if Durham's report actually bore real fruit!

Yes, I guess we'll find out when the findings are publshed in about EIGHTY YEARS.

I am not going to be a debbie downer on this thread. I guess the fact that we haven't heard anything should be a sign of a good investigation. I like seeing some fruit. But come all to hell some folks need to go to jail on this one.

I gotta think Durham is expecting his ass to go in the wringer when this is all done so he had better be 100% before outing folks but treason can't go un-punished.

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
Wouldn't it be something if Durham's report actually bore real fruit!

Yes, I guess we'll find out when the findings are publshed in about EIGHTY YEARS.

God I hope we finally get something with this new evidence. And quickly. Seems like Obama knew what was going on and so then Biden also knew...Even if they where not behind the actions, just knowing and not putting a stop to it sounds like solid grounds for subpoena and questioning. Even if they are not convicted of wrong doing, just going through the process with guys like Ted Cruz, John Kennedy and Jim Jordan grilling them, it could damage the Dem party for years. The main stream media will be very embarrassed, (vis a vis Lesley Stahl’s Trump interview), so they won't be anxious to give in-depth coverage, and as usual will simply ignore it. Must press on.

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Wouldn't it be something if Durham's report actually bore real fruit! The Democrat party as a whole not just Pelosi and company but those in and around the squad want to be rid of the Clinton's in particular Hillary. This is where Hillary's biggest threat comes from. She has made overtures to running again. If she gets too far down that road I think the Dems throw her hard under the Durham bus.

Appears the D party wants the Obamas to be the image it projects.

Wouldn't be surprised if the party sacrificed people to help remove the Clintons from power. Specifically stop Hillary as the parties leading family.

The new D party wants to move forward with the mega wealthy tech backers who are super liberal progressives, the Clintons stand in the way as old school D. Strangely they are not as progressive as the party wants to be, and they historically controlled massive amounts of party money. To the party, she's in the way of moving forward.

As did Cuomo, and will Choomer and other D party members who are not ready to embrace the new suck that is the progressive left extreme agenda.

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Originally posted by Krazeehorse:
If you see a suicide or two you’ll know they’re getting closer to the Hildabeast.

Stop

How is it possible that you don't know to not post this shit in this forum?



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Looks like she doesn't mind her face covered up here. This was from a reporter barrage outside Chelsea's NYC home this morning.

Would make a good 'caption this' photo:

^^^^

This obviously from the same shoot today and, if nothing else, I like what I'm seeing is Hill's eyes --

Yes, the beast’s eyes look very, very old. Looks sad & alone. Karma.

Hilary is thrifty, shes had her blue dress coat for years.

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Originally posted by rch73:
I seem to recall, way back when, Admiral Mike Rogers (I believe he was the chief of the NSA at the time) going to then-candidate Trump and informing him that his campaign offices were bugged, even in Trump Tower. And I seem to recall that Trump moved his campaign offices overnight out of Trump Tower to some other location. I have not heard or seen much of Admiral Rogers since then, does anyone know if he is around? Perhaps he is assisting the Durham investigation?

Here’s a good read from sundance at Treehouse on his actions at the time -

Operation Condor – How NSA Director Mike Rogers Saved The U.S. From a Massive Constitutional Crisis…

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Originally posted by NavyGuy:
God I hope we finally get something with this new evidence. And quickly. Seems like Obama knew what was going on and so then Biden also knew...Even if they where not behind the actions, just knowing and not putting a stop to it sounds like solid grounds for subpoena and questioning. Even if they are not convicted of wrong doing, just going through the process with guys like Ted Cruz, John Kennedy and Jim Jordan grilling them, it could damage the Dem party for years. The main stream media will be very embarrassed, (vis a vis Lesley Stahl’s Trump interview), so they won't be anxious to give in-depth coverage, and as usual will simply ignore it. Must press on.

Of course, Biden knew. He's the one who suggested Flynn could be prosecuted under the Hatch Act. So he knew Flynn's calls were being monitored, knew he was unmasked and was looking for a way to squeeze him for dirt on Trump. Not that Biden will ever have to answer for it, even if he could remember it now.

Looks like Rogers was/is a stand up guy. They tried to get rid of him as he was doing what he could to shut down their illegal spying operation.

And then he went and told and told then Pres-elect DJT about it which led to him moving transition ops out of Trump tower.

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Originally posted by Cookster:

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Originally posted by rch73:
I seem to recall, way back when, Admiral Mike Rogers (I believe he was the chief of the NSA at the time) going to then-candidate Trump and informing him that his campaign offices were bugged, even in Trump Tower. And I seem to recall that Trump moved his campaign offices overnight out of Trump Tower to some other location. I have not heard or seen much of Admiral Rogers since then, does anyone know if he is around? Perhaps he is assisting the Durham investigation?

Here’s a good read from sundance at Treehouse on his actions at the time -

Operation Condor – How NSA Director Mike Rogers Saved The U.S. From a Massive Constitutional Crisis…

The ONLY silver lining to all the illegal malfeasance of the democrats, is that they are as incompetent as they are evil.

Otherwise we would likely not know the extent of their treachery. Regards 18DAI

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Originally posted by 18DAI:
The ONLY silver lining to all the illegal malfeasance of the democrats, is that they are as incompetent as they are evil.

Otherwise we would likely not know the extent of their treachery. Regards 18DAI

I’ve no doubt there is treachery not yet discovered and that which has been discovered but interest/info suppressed. The Left is evil.

The point about not hearing stuff:

Apparently Durham is running a tight ship and no one is leaking info to the media. The conservative media is simply reporting the content of legal filings that are public. Durham isn't talking to the press, and apparently his people aren't. A far cry from all the investigations against Trump.

Of course the commie media isn't reporting anything.

Imagine if a special prosecutor made a filing that he had evidence that someone working for Trump was illegally accessing Biden's Executive Office servers in the first few months of 2021, looking for evidence of election fraud. They would be running that filing up a flag pole and telling the entire world to read it. Just sickening that right and wrong and the rule of law means nothing compared to "I want my side to win no matter what they do".

Nixon resigned over a botched B&E at a hotel that he knew about and lied about. This is spying on the confidential communications of the President of the United States. Joffe better get indicted on charges that will put him in jail for the rest of his life, so that he has a reason to talk.