Yeah, it's like you're a cott damn Svenjolly or somethin'.

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Originally posted by Modern Day Savage:


For the record, I hadn't even heard Vice President Harris' comments comparing the J6 January 6th riot to the Pearl Harbor or September 11th attacks until after I posted my comments in this thread, so it's just an unfortunate coincidence we used the same example... but my point stands.

Read my comments again, I was NOT comparing the J6 January 6th riot to the Pearl Harbor and September 11th attacks. In terms of severity, destructiveness, and importance J6 January 6th doesn't even come close. 2403 people died, with the loss of a large portion of the Pacific fleet at Pearl Harbor, leaving our West Coast vulnerable, and ultimately leading to a world war. 2996 people died during the September 11th attacks, with the Pentagon severely damaged and a severe disruption of the U.S. economy, and again leading to wars.

The J6 January 6th riots led to the deaths of 2-5 people and a few hundred thousand dollars to a couple million in damages, depending on which source is being used.

Hell, the BLM/ Antifa riots were way more costly in terms of lives lost and the two billion dollars in property damage/ destruction, than the J6 January 6th riot.

It's as ridiculous to compare the J6 January 6th riot to Pearl Harbor and September 11th attacks as it was for both President Trump and AOC to compare COVID-19 to WW I or WW II.

But, there is one way they are similar, and that is the uncertainty that comes with surprise attacks. All three of these events were followed by uncertainty about whether the initial attacks would be followed up by more soon after.

I'm making the point that Senator Ted Cruz made comments and adopted a position in a confusing and rapidly evolving emergency.

I have zero problem prosecuting the J6 January 6th trespassers, those who damaged/ destroyed property, and those few who committed violent acts for their crimes, but they were not "insurrectionists". But if those J6 January 6th rioters are being prosecuted/ punished, then the BLM/ Antifa rioters and real insurrectionists in CHAZ/ CHOP need to be prosecuted and punished also.

"J6" has been in common use in several articles about the riot, and it's not a "cute name", but just a short hand reference when discussing an important event. Until somebody comes up with a better name that is acceptable and understood, its just a term of convenience.

At this point, I have no plans to back my support away from Senator Cruz. My disappointment in his position and comments doesn't mean I won't back him in the future.

Nice use of strike through and bolding.

I'm confused on the "Cruz made comments and adopted a position in a confusing and rapidly evolving emergency." What was the emergency this week, I missed it.

I don't have any problems backing TC, even though I don't believe he misspoke, he said what he did for a reason, he's an excellent debater. It's just not likely he gaffed. He'd still be in the top three I'd like to see get the 2024 nomination, last in top three, but still there.

Again you compared this to events with major loss of life and leading to war. I don't think there was any uncertainty here, did you think we were heading towards war on Jan 7?

Carlson did a great job dressing down Cruz last night.

All Tucker said was, that he didn’t believe him.

He knew him to be a smart man, chooses his words carefully and his explanation was not plausible.

I agree.

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Originally posted by Keystoner:
Carlson did a great job dressing down Cruz last night.

The follow up question should be: How many cops were "violently assaulted"? Where is the evidence of that? The only "violent assault" I saw was BY a Capitol police officer (NOT against a police officer) on a woman who merely climbed through a broken window.

January 7, 2022
Ted Cruz goes on Tucker to try to walk back his words about January 6

On Wednesday, Tucker Carlson made most Republicans aware of the fact that Ted Cruz referred to events on January 6, 2021, as a “violent terrorist attack on the Capitol.” On Thursday, Ted Cruz appeared on Tucker’s show to try to walk back what he said. Tucker was brutal with him. This was a good thing because it showed that conservatives have more integrity than Democrats when it comes to calling their own side out. It also gave Cruz the chance to repent and try to fight his way back into conservatives’ good graces.

Thomas Lifson wrote about Cruz’s peculiar statement here.

There are lots of theories as to why Cruz said what he said: Tucker called him a Merrick Garland puppet; Thomas Lifson thinks he’s angling for the Supreme Court; and one friend suggested that he was trying to avoid the Democrat lynch mob, led by Marc Elias, which announced a plan to use January 6 to bar Republicans from running for Congress.

Whatever Cruz’s future political plans are, they’re not going to happen if every conservative in America (but for the handful of NeverTrumpers who are turning into leftists) hates him. That’s why, the moment Cruz heard about Tucker’s show, he shot a text to Tucker, begging to be allowed on the next day’s show to set the record straight. And so it was that Cruz showed up on Tucker’s Thursday night show:



If Cruz thought appearing on Fox News with a conservative host was going to be a cakewalk—apologize, receive Tucker’s absolution, and chitchat a bit—he was sorely mistaken. Cruz tried to say that he just misspoke (“it was sloppy and it was frankly dumb”), only to have Tucker come back with “I don’t buy that.” He pointed out that Cruz is one of the smartest, most articulate people around and he doesn’t just misspeak.

Cruz shifted to saying that his “sloppy phrasing” led people to misunderstand what he meant. What he really meant was that all assaults against police are violent terrorist acts. Cruz explained that, for a decade, and especially during 2020, he has consistently referred to violent attacks on the police as terrorist attacks and that was what he was saying here. And it is true that, in the offending video, immediately after mentioning the terrorist attack, Cruz does praise the Capitol Hill Police.

In other words, Cruz says he was sloppy because he reflexively used the same expression he’s used before. He never meant to impugn Trump supporters. But as Trump snapped back, while all people who physically attack the police are criminals, the January 6 people are not terrorists. Cruz, he pointed out, should have been savvy enough not to fall into the hyperbolic nomenclature that the Democrats have been using, no matter how much he wanted to praise the police.

Cruz could only reiterate what he’d said before and explain, again, that it was a mistake to say that in the context of the January 6 protests. He ended on two strong notes. First, he admitted his mistake: “I agree it was a mistake to use the word yesterday because the Democrats and the corporate media have so politicized it, they’re trying to paint everyone as a terrorist and it’s a lie.” Second, he said he was the one leading the fight in the Senate against this January 6 garbage.

We’ll never know whether Cruz was trying to protect himself from Democrat attacks or had lazily swung into what is, for him, a standard stump speech. I’m inclined to the latter point.

https://www.americanthinker.co...about_january_6.html

Pardon my ignorance, but who assaulted police officers on Jan 6?

Best Headline I've seen on Tucker vs Ted.

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Originally posted by darthfuster:
Pardon my ignorance, but who assaulted police officers on Jan 6?

There was also plenty of people getting the shit beat out of them that absolutely didn’t deserve it, there were quite a few articles of those incidents right after it happened. I also personally know somebody who was there that got shot with a bean back round right to the groin and ended up in the ER because of it. Was literally standing and talking to some people. No warning and no fights near by

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Originally posted by arabiancowboy:
I just watch the Tucker video. Thank you for posting it. Cruz said something stupid that he shouldn’t have said and he acknowledges that. Time to move along.

Completely agree. Internal squabbling will do no good right now. Take it offline.

I agree with Jesse Kelly here.

We’d have zero Republican Senators right now if half this thread had their way and wanted to throw fellow conservatives under the bus for saying something they didn’t like…

I support him, but he sure says some pretty stupid stuff from time to time. {I am not referring to the January 6th incident.} He sets himself for the butt of jokes rather than promoting his policies. He needs to do better.

That Kelly tweet: "I don't publicly call out friends."

That's how friends behave- true friends, not people like that slimey little turd Patton Oswalt.

Just as he says in that tweet, we shouldn't turn our backs on Cruz for his remarks, or soon, we'll have no one to turn our backs on err to, whatever.

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I agree with Jessie Kelly here.

He has a good point but we are among friends here. Of course I would vote for him against any Dem. But… We have to call out our own or they will stray into RINO territory.

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Originally posted by limblessbiff:

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Originally posted by darthfuster:
Pardon my ignorance, but who assaulted police officers on Jan 6?

There was also plenty of people getting the shit beat out of them that absolutely didn’t deserve it, there were quite a few articles of those incidents right after it happened. I also personally know somebody who was there that got shot with a bean back round right to the groin and ended up in the ER because of it. Was literally standing and talking to some people. No warning and no fights near by

This is why I'm asking who assaulted the police? About whom is Cruz speaking? Which are the terrorists? Be specific, Ted.

If Ted has ever tossed a bone to the globalists, I missed it. I'll not trust him anymore.

I read a similar public caning of T. Cruz elsewhere, really do forget where. After a certain point, some other poster commented that while he didn't like the Cruz's comment, his 'Conservative 'R Us' group documented that Cruz votes in their way of thinking 82% of the time, with notable exceptions.

He said he could live with that, as most others on the list were even less reliable.

When you guys talk about Cruz losing your support- well, unless you're living in Texas, you can't vote for him as a Senator, so I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean.

If you can find Jesse Kelly in your area, give him a listen.

Well, I'm still glad we have Ted rather than Beta O'Cook.

He made one mistake I don't approve of, so I throw him under the bus, said a bunch of people.

No wonder we lose elections to the Progressives.