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I'll call the liberals on their misguided statistics and I'll take the analysis one step further.

100% of illegal aliens have committed a federal crime.

What percentage of citizens or legal immigrants have?

The only thing the illegals actually have is an additional reason/motivation not to get caught committing a crime or to be found out, which from all indications and reports so far is at least part of the motivation of Mollie's murder.

Also, if you don't know exactly how many people are hiding in the shadows or who they are, how can you even make a guess as to what percentage have or have not committed other crimes?

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John Lott, one of the most rigorous and thorough statisticians in the country, did a study of crimes committed by illegal aliens in Arizona. We hear over and over again-- as from that jackwad Geraldo-- that they are law abiding, more so that the general American population. BULL SHIT!

On toast.

Here is the abstract:

Abstract

Using newly released detailed data on all prisoners who entered the Arizona state prison from January 1985 through June 2017, we are able to separate non-U.S. citizens by whether they are illegal or legal residents. Unlike other studies, these data do not rely on self-reporting of criminal backgrounds. Undocumented immigrants are at least 142% more likely to be convicted of a crime than other Arizonans. They also tend to commit more serious crimes and serve 10.5% longer sentences, more likely to be classified as dangerous, and 45% more likely to be gang members than U.S. citizens. Yet, there are several reasons that these numbers are likely to underestimate the share of crime committed by undocumented immigrants. There are dramatic differences between in the criminal histories of convicts who are U.S. citizens and undocumented immigrants.

Young convicts are especially likely to be undocumented immigrants. While undocumented immigrants from 15 to 35 years of age make up slightly over two percent of the Arizona population, they make up about eight percent of the prison population. Even after adjusting for the fact that young people commit crime at higher rates, young undocumented immigrants commit crime at twice the rate of young U.S. citizens. These undocumented immigrants also tend to commit more serious crimes.

If undocumented immigrants committed crime nationally as they do in Arizona, in 2016 they would have been responsible for over 1,000 more murders, 5,200 rapes, 8,900 robberies, 25,300 aggravated assaults, and 26,900 burglaries.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/p...?abstract_id=3099992


There was another study done that I heard on a radio program last year. Here are the figuares they gave:

1. 35% of all convicted murderers in New York City were illegal aliens.
2. Close to 50% of murderers and violent criminals in the California system are illegals.
 
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He had headphones on in court, meaning that those "four to seven years" Roll Eyes he's lived in this country, he hasn't bothered to learn English.


Fucking disgusting trash. Life without parole, baby.


And yet he confessed that when she told him to leave her alone or she was calling the police, he sure understood that in English enough to “make him angry.”

The headphones are a ploy...he knows enough to understand a threat and murder a woman...

I call BS on him not understanding.


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Also, if you don't know exactly how many people are hiding in the shadows or who they are, how can you even make a guess as to what percentage have or have not committed other crimes?


Yes. "Percentage" becomes a moot point because we don't know the total population. And great numbers of murders, assaults and rapes go unsolved. So, Lott's statistics, stunning as they are, represent numbers that are at the very least that bad.

I can't tell you how it burns me to read the phrase "illegal immigrant." Wrong. Immigrants are by definition following a legal process. These people are illegal aliens. They are invaders. And they, and all those who support them, undermine, and make a mockery of, the legitimate process of immigration that brought so many millions of motivated, productive, and grateful men, women, and children, to our country.

I urge you not to repeat "illegal immigrant." You are falling for a bit of leftist linguistic trickery when you do so. "Immigrant," to most Americans, is a word that elicits sympathy, and disguises the fact that these people are, right from the outset, criminals.


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^^^^I agree 100%. I have never called them illegal immigrants in my life. They are illegal aliens or illegal invaders. We don’t know what their intentions are when they don’t go through the proper procedures to come here, thus they should never be referred to as immigrants.



 
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Originally posted by parabellum:
He had headphones on in court, meaning that those "four to seven years" Roll Eyes he's lived in this country, he hasn't bothered to learn English.


Fucking disgusting trash. Life without parole, baby.


And yet he confessed that when she told him to leave her alone or she was calling the police, he sure understood that in English enough to “make him angry.”

The headphones are a ploy...he knows enough to understand a threat and murder a woman...

I call BS on him not understanding.


They only savvy english if it’s to their advantage.
 
Posts: 27307 | Location: SW of Hovey, Texas | Registered: January 30, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Mollie Tibbett's mother is taking in an illegal alien-- that is, inviting him to live in her home with her family. He is high school age, and apparently a friend of her son.

I live in a part of Pennsylvania with a lot of Amish, and there have been some instances where Amish were murdered, and relatives of the murdered publicly forgave the murderers, and even, in some cases, visited the families of the murderers to make peace with them. There was an infamous case in which ten Amish children were massacred in their school house, and the parents went to the homes of relatives of the murderer to console them. I am astonished, and moved-- and incredulous-- when I hear such things.

I don't know what to make of Mollie Tibbetts mother. I remember that her father, right after the murder, said some supportive things about the Mexicans.

https://www.breitbart.com/poli...ed-by-illegal-alien/


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I don't know what to make of Mollie Tibbetts mother.

I do.


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Not how I would react if my daughter was taken in such a manner, but their loss was profound and leeway/understanding should be afforded accordingly.

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Not how I would react if my daughter was taken in such a manner...


I think I know how I'd react and it would not involve taking an illegal immigrant into my home.





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Why dosent ICE just go and pick his ass up? Then the farm they worked at should be raided and fined. This is so sick.
 
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Maybe it's simply bad reporting, she invited him for dinner, or to be dinner.


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Someone who knows I have guns once asked me, "But if someone broke into your home, could you actually shoot another person?" And I said, "To protect my kids, I would bite through their windpipe if I needed to." I would do anything I needed to do, anything at all.

So, I hate to even think about it, but I know how I would react.

Maybe this family, the mother and father at least, are such committed, devoted progressives that they can literally sacrifice their daughter to the cause. That turns my stomach, but it might be true. Or maybe they are such egotists that they can't pass up this chance to virtue signal. Even more stomach turning. Or maybe they are morally advanced in ways I can't even approach. In India, I have seen Jains sweep a little path before them as they walk so as not to step on any insects. I will redirect my foot if I see an insect, but sweep a path...?


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There was an infamous case in which ten Amish children were massacred in their school house, and the parents went to the homes of relatives of the murderer to console them.


October 2, 2006, in the schoolhouse, eight of the ten girls were shot and five were killed. The gunman committed suicide.

A week later the men of the community demolished the school and returned the land to quiet pasture.

The Amish are a people of forgiveness and reconciliation. Great negotiators as well.
 
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