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I'm taking my disgust at the election process -- all of the illegal voters, dual voting registrations, phony ballots, ballot harvesting, etc. -- and turning it into a personal campaign to get my state to clean up its voting registration and ID process. My state senator has an office not more than two miles from here, and I see him two or three times a year at parades or the American Legion post and so on. I wrote him a letter on gun control last year and he responded (and did not vote for the "assault weapons" bill). He is not 2000 miles away and unreachable.

The idea that one of the local jurisdictions -- Arlington -- allowed 400 people to register to vote after they checked the box "not a U.S. citizen" as they were supposed to do -- is unacceptable. And the Democrat registrar let them register, knowing they were ineligible to vote. I presume most of them actually voted... that sort of thing has to stop. One person - ID yourself - one vote one time.

If Trump does not win -- and it looks like he will not be able to turn the tide on this election -- there still needs to be something to come out of it. That something is to clean up the election process for the future.

No one is going to listen to anyone say "Trump really won" or anything like that, in the future. I don't want to be caught in a bitter "Stab in the Back" or "Lost Cause" loop. But people can be made to listen to the message: the election process in 2020 was so painful because the voting system needs to be made secure and accurate and everyone needs to be able to have their vote counted -- and the cheating has to stop.
 
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there still needs to be something to come out of it. That something is to clean up the election process for the future.

Yes.
Voting systems are controlled locally. Some are better than others, but all could be better.
They are politically corrupt in single-party Dem controlled cities like Milwaukee, Philadelphia, Atlanta and Detroit. This isn't new but it must be cleaned up.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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^^^ That's one of the things that gives me hope in the middle of the present election horse manure. If the corruption is concentrated in specific high-population areas, it's got to be relatively easy to find whistleblowers and scumbags who'll flip.
 
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https://www.theepochtimes.com/...reaking-2020-11-20-3

Finally! SHTF!

Lock and load!


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But people can be made to listen to the message: the election process in 2020 was so painful because the voting system needs to be made secure and accurate and everyone needs to be able to have their vote counted -- and the cheating has to stop.


I believe this is the last chance we have to stop the cheating. Right now, in Trump, we have a fighter who is standing up for honest, lawful voting, and too many Republicans are eager to give up and accept these obviously falsified election results. If biden cheats his way into the White House, it’s going to be pretty difficult to revamp the election system in democrat controlled areas. Especially with NOBODY in the bully pulpit of the Presidency who will have an interest in legitimate elections by legal voters.
 
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“Twenty-five years ago, the witty and prescient Claire Wolfe offered some wisdom that resonated with a lot of people: "America is at that awkward stage," she wrote. "It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." I'm sure you've seen those words, and I'm sure you laughed, but I bet you also wondered when the shooting would actually begin. An awful lot has happened since then. Matt Drudge burst onto the scene, shattered the left's monopoly over journalism for a time, and then joined forces with the left himself. Republican honchos like Michael Steele and Bill Kristol decided that the best way to protect Republican voters from themselves was to repeatedly stab them in the back, and Fox News created an unbridled outlet for conservative points of view before taking a hard turn toward bend-the-knee, kiss-the-ring champagne socialism. The great majority of Americans have pleaded for sensible immigration reforms, trade policies that benefit workers at home, and an end to "endless wars," but the American government has pursued the opposite agenda. American technology giants emerged to expand the flow of information and the free expression of ideas before transforming into filters of information and suppressors of ideas. And Big Media, Big Tech, and Big Government conspired repeatedly for four years to remove an American president because he challenged the establishment status quo. I wonder what stage Ms. Wolfe thinks we've entered now.”

Are we there, yet?




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https://www.theepochtimes.com/...reaking-2020-11-20-3
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Finally! SHTF!

Lock and load!

Keep you're powder dry. This is nothing more than Dominion hunkering down for the long haul.


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Yes, but throw in a subpoena from the PA House Committee, and the quality of the conversation (not to mention the possible repercussions of that conversation) just might change dramatically. Dominion bailed on what was essentially providing the Committee with a courtesy, and "courtesy" doesn't really let a committee hammer the witnesses before it.
 
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Seems that things are looking up...this is one




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BREAKING: Dominion Spokesman Will Be On FOX News at Noon ET
November 22, 2020
COMMENTARY
3 mins read

https://thespectator.info/2020...fox-news-at-noon-et/


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BREAKING: Dominion Spokesman Will Be On FOX News at Noon ET

Here's that interview:
Spokesman Michael Steel explains how the machines work and how accusations of voter fraud are simply not true.




"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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^^^

"The number of tallied votes would not match the number of printed ballots". That's the question, isn't it? We're still trying to get physical counts of physical ballots. At the same time, Powell's main charge as far as Dominion is concerned is that votes were switched to other candidates. Nevertheless, it's nice of Dominion to specify that counting the actual paper ballots is the only way to ensure that the machines provided an accurate count.

"The President's lawyers haven't offered a scintilla of evidence in 30 court cases." The President's lawyers have consistently been denied the opportunity to offer evidence, as was the case just last Friday in the appeals court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania.

"In the 14 Pennsylvania counties where the Dominion machines were used, Trump won by 52%." Uh-huh. The question is whether or not enough votes were added to Biden's legitimate votes to win the election for Biden state wide. At the same time, even if Dominion machines weren't used in Philadelphia and neighboring blue counties (weren't they?) then that doesn't tell us about the software used in those counties - or, for example, a sudden influx of supposedly legitimate mail-in ballots.

"Thumb drives can't alter the counting." But they can't alter what's counted? Again, we'll have to look at the machines and the physical ballots to find out, won't we?

"Dominion didn't bribe Kemp to throw the election." Thanks, Sean, for a total red herring - the question is whether he or anyone else received anything to allow contracting with Dominion and/or to not contest the results as tabulated by Dominion.

(Sigh) Still waiting to see what comes out in court.
 
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I've been reading a lot of they didn't vote for him because of that, and they voted for the other guy because of this. I've observed two events going on simultaneously that have effected elections in the past. It just depended upon which theory was stronger leading up to election day. First is the generational event theory. An event so powerful that people don't want to associate with the person in power at the time. WW2 was such an event and the people of Britain voted Churchill out in the next election. Covid real or imagined was the generation bad thing this cycle. Theory number two is the law and order theory. The 1968 Chicago riots struck the voters as bad and Nixon took full advantage of that fact. In my opinion Trump didn't so the generational event theory over shadowed the law and order theory this election cycle. I view it as Trump lost to a guy hiding out in his basement, and tapped the most radical senator for his VP. This is on Trump. Time to learn what to take from Trump's style and what to discard. The Republican Party has only won 2 popular votes since 1988, and this represent a real problem dating back decades. Time for something new because I can't get excited going back to Dole, McCain, and Romney or someone like them.


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^^^

"The number of tallied votes would not match the number of printed ballots". That's the question, isn't it? We're still trying to get physical counts of physical ballots. At the same time, Powell's main charge as far as Dominion is concerned is that votes were switched to other candidates. Nevertheless, it's nice of Dominion to specify that counting the actual paper ballots is the only way to ensure that the machines provided an accurate count.

"The President's lawyers haven't offered a scintilla of evidence in 30 court cases." The President's lawyers have consistently been denied the opportunity to offer evidence, as was the case just last Friday in the appeals court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania.

"In the 14 Pennsylvania counties where the Dominion machines were used, Trump won by 52%." Uh-huh. The question is whether or not enough votes were added to Biden's legitimate votes to win the election for Biden state wide. At the same time, even if Dominion machines weren't used in Philadelphia and neighboring blue counties (weren't they?) then that doesn't tell us about the software used in those counties - or, for example, a sudden influx of supposedly legitimate mail-in ballots.

"Thumb drives can't alter the counting." But they can't alter what's counted? Again, we'll have to look at the machines and the physical ballots to find out, won't we?

"Dominion didn't bribe Kemp to throw the election." Thanks, Sean, for a total red herring - the question is whether he or anyone else received anything to allow contracting with Dominion and/or to not contest the results as tabulated by Dominion.

(Sigh) Still waiting to see what comes out in court.


very interesting interview... it's great they got a guy to come on camera. this has obviously picked up steam and they had to get somebody to come forward 'for the record'

but did you catch he is from an organization 'representing Dominion...' whatever the heck that means.

he may be stating what he BELIEVES or has been instructed to say is true. Interesting no ACTUAL Dominion execs / engineers have been interviewed to my knowledge. total 'plausible deniability' scenario. he is well-instructed on how it's SUPPOSED to work -- but until I hear from actual execs / engineers I will remain HIGHLY skeptical.

also it was interesting he was never asked how the absentee votes are tabulated -- a key question dealing with the massive avalanche of Biden votes that occurred miraculously at 4 am... and i agree - at some point to see this through -- a REAL hand recount must occur to reconcile vote tallies ...

anything short of that and this whole thing is forever open to conjecture / speculation

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Dominion has been in business since 2002. They are used in elections all over the western hemisphere. If they were hacked then they're out of business. If they had a glitch they're out of business. If its possible for election officials to temper with the system they're out of business. I don't think Dominion acted against their own best interest. If they did then I need a concrete damn good reason why. Time to focus energy toward 2024.


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No, it's not time to switch focus to 2024 yet. If nothing else, there's no reason to not let the court cases, audits, etc. play out before moving on. And then there'll be plenty of time to think forward to 2022, when we get to harness all of this anger, frustration and willingness to do something into a massive assault on the Dems' positions in the House and Senate.

Oh, and did I mention that there are still a couple of US Senate seats up for grabs in this election? The runoffs are in about 40 days.

How everyone comes through 2020 and 2022 will tell us volumes about who's ready to run in 2024 - and that will give us a useful basis to decide where to "focus energy" that we simply do not have now. Until then, the more information that comes out about how this election is being run, the more information we will have to tell us what we need to be concerned about to ensure that we get fair elections in 2022 and 2024.

There's still a bunch of meat on this bone. It's just not much fun chasing down the bits and pieces that are left.
 
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Dominion has been in business since 2002. They are used in elections all over the western hemisphere. If they were hacked then they're out of business. If they had a glitch they're out of business. If its possible for election officials to temper with the system they're out of business. I don't think Dominion acted against their own best interest. If they did then I need a concrete damn good reason why. Time to focus energy toward 2024.


You keep focusing on voting machines. You fail to mention the various states miscounting and observer illegal doings. Those are just as nefarious as rigged voting is, this doesn't need to wait until 2024 to be addressed.


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Watch from the 15 minute mark for election discussion with an election lawyer.

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