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Originally posted by trapper189:
5 miles a day or a trip? Asking, because as the family chauffeur, I drive 56 miles on a normal day. I think I could charge that over night with just a 30amp 240v outlet.

Keep us posted how it works for you.

That would be plenty. You can fully top one off in 10 hours @ 240v. I think it charges around 30 miles+ a hour on the 240 outlet.

For what it's worth last night I checked and off the regular 120v outlet I was showing 5 miles a hour charge rate. So you could conceivably get by with a regular plug. Unless your daily commute gets longer.

We had a 240V line added for a dedicated charger; cost was about $1300 installed which honestly the only way I'd have it. We've routinely had the breaker pop while using an air compressor and heater at the same time in the garage so charging an EV off that circuit didn't make sense. I had the electrician pull a dedicated 30A circuit just for the high draw stuff while he was doing the 60A service for the Tesla charger.

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Originally posted by SIGnified:

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Originally posted by PGT:
The Model 3 Long Range is 4.2s 0-60. To keep things in perspective, the E36 BMW M3 was 0-60 in like 5.2s a generation ago and everybody was in awe.

I've driven the Model Y Performance and the same friend's previous Model S P100D with Ludicrous Mode. Yeah...nothing else out there like it, save maybe a hypercar costing millions

0-60 is not the same as 60-120+

Tesla might get me off the line (manual shift limits 0-60 to 3.2s), but you’re never going to take me at speed.

Congratulations on your new coal-fired car!

Out of curiosity. What are you running? Sounds pretty freaking fast.

Also go check some video's out of the S Plaid. There are plenty of vidoes of the stock Plaid running low-mid 9 second 1/4 mile and trapping around 150. That's stock right off the show room floor. Guys that start modding are doing even better.

That's faster than most muscle / super cars in the 1/4. Such as : Challenger Demon, Bugatti Veyron Super Sport, Koenigsegg One, McLaren 720S, etc.

But you stretch that up to a mile+ of runway. That's where the $300K super cars will likely shine in the top end.

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Originally posted by PGT:
We had a 240V line added for a dedicated charger; cost was about $1300 installed which honestly the only way I'd have it. We've routinely had the breaker pop while using an air compressor and heater at the same time in the garage so charging an EV off that circuit didn't make sense. I had the electrician pull a dedicated 30A circuit just for the high draw stuff while he was doing the 60A service for the Tesla charger.

We bought the wall charger since we figure we'll be at this house a long time. For pure convenience. Having a electrician come out and throw in a 60A breaker. Wall charger is over 40 miles a hour on charge. So super easy to "top it off".

Now I just gotta stop calling it "The gas petal".

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Now I just gotta stop calling it "The gas petal".

You mean it doesn't run on flower power?

A 30 miles/hour charge rate would cover most of our needs. Thank you for the information.

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Originally posted by myrottiety:

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Originally posted by SIGnified:

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Originally posted by PGT:
The Model 3 Long Range is 4.2s 0-60. To keep things in perspective, the E36 BMW M3 was 0-60 in like 5.2s a generation ago and everybody was in awe.

I've driven the Model Y Performance and the same friend's previous Model S P100D with Ludicrous Mode. Yeah...nothing else out there like it, save maybe a hypercar costing millions

0-60 is not the same as 60-120+

Tesla might get me off the line (manual shift limits 0-60 to 3.2s), but you’re never going to take me at speed.

Congratulations on your new coal-fired car!

Out of curiosity. What are you running? Sounds pretty freaking fast.

Also go check some video's out of the S Plaid. There are plenty of vidoes of the stock Plaid running low-mid 9 second 1/4 mile and trapping around 150. That's stock right off the show room floor. Guys that start modding are doing even better.

Electric cars are always going to have an advantage from a dig. Infinite torque and no shifting is a huge advantage. That’s not terribly useful in driving or necessarily racing on a track.

If you want to understand why I have an advantage, you just need to go look at a Tesla torque curves … For any of the models, as soon as you hit 50 miles an hour it’s a huge drop off due to battery limitations.

I am the other hand with gasoline can spool up and easily generate pretty close to 650 foot pounds with a tune/1.3b bar of boost (twin k24 turbos) at all speeds, any fuel load.

I drive a 20 year old droptop; it just happens to make a lot of torque.
It’s spent a few years getting tracked pretty hard. NoW it’s just my grocery getter.

yay, more vague posts from a guy who doesn't get it. it's not an either/or...you can do both. Comparing a highly modded muscle car to a production EV sedan is pretty short-sighted.

You sound just like my brother-in-law with his irrational adoration of his Mustangs. Cool story, bro.

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Originally posted by PGT:
yay, more vague posts from a guy who doesn't get it. it's not an either/or...you can do both. Comparing a highly modded muscle car to a production EV sedan is pretty short-sighted.

You sound just like my brother-in-law with his irrational adoration of his Mustangs. Cool story, bro.

You assume too much. I am not your bro.
Do you always trash your family on the Internet? Classless.

Sorry… My car is not highly modified. During its day, from the factory it took the Ring record without a tune. It’s a true drivers car and not an electric toy.

Drag racing is not road racing. Not even relatable.

Again go look at Tesla torque curves unless you’re anti-science.

My Hooptie is simply just chipped and not as far as I could. I could push it to two bar but I keep it fairly tame at 1.3


Lol - It’s not a Mustang. I think you’re the one that doesn’t get it. Good luck!

See you on on the road, in the rvm. Well, bye!

I trash anybody who thinks a Mustang is > * and you should too.

As for your troll status, I think you've confirmed that by engaging here claiming superiority without giving and specifics and then stating points that are contradictory.

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Originally posted by PGT:
I trash anybody who thinks a Mustang is > * and you should too.

As for your troll status, I think you've confirmed that by engaging here claiming superiority without giving and specifics and then stating points that are contradictory.

Ha ha ha … Tell me what you learned about Tesla torque curves and I’ll tell you what I drive young padawan

What I am curious about...can anyone tell me how long the charge would last in a typical Michigan winter under these conditions, the car is driven 5-10 miles every other day, car is parked outdoors in the driveway when not being driven, and there is no charger at the house?

What do you hope to gain here or convince anybody here of by extolling the virtues of your unicorn, production twin turbo unmodified 'ring record holder from the 1990's? (Oh, forgot...it's a convertible, too). Zero cars fit that set of criteria so it should be plain to all the BS being spewed here.

Shhh...adults talking.

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Originally posted by Warhorse:
What I am curious about...can anyone tell me how long the charge would last in a typical Michigan winter under these conditions, the car is driven 5-10 miles every other day, car is parked outdoors in the driveway when not being driven, and there is no charger at the house?

It depends. Sentry eats some battery as does the cabin cooling/heating feature. You'd need to shut both off. Some have reported drain to near zero when parked at an airport over a week while leaving Sentry engaged (monitors movement around the vehicle).

5-10mi every other day is like 40mi/week. You'd be fine charging every week in the winter I'd think....maybe a bit longer interval depending on a lot of factors (including speeds driven in the commute)

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Originally posted by PGT:
What do you hope to gain here or convince anybody here of by extolling the virtues of your unicorn, production twin turbo unmodified 'ring record holder from the 1990's? (Oh, forgot...it's a convertible, too). Zero cars fit that set of criteria so it should be plain to all the BS being spewed here.

Shhh...adults talking.

Lol - Adult… that olde ham. OK you’re just congenitally and cognitively incorrect. Lots of old people can be quite ignorant too, suffer dementia. Something about that phrase reminds me of Biden… What could it be… Whom do you sound like… oh all those fakes news guys lol

Not 1990s.

You likely run on coal. And if not you - a large portion of owners will. California can’t even supply enough electricity to the grid they currently have but let’s add more demand. No one runs on 100% nuclear Unless you’re Homer Simpson working at a nuclear plant with the charging station.

Once the battery begins to deplete (which is very quickly) you lose torque. The energy mgt software does so thusly. Why can’t you admit that fact? Too problematic/need a safe space? Tesla puts it in black-and-white data sheets.

This does not happen with gasoline internal combustion engines.

That is my only point. (Put the extraneous car stuff in because a person couldn’t believe there is something faster than a tesla on the road.)

RVM

Congrats on the new wheels myrottiety!

Any day you get a new car is a great day, no matter what it runs on.

Hope you enjoy the new ride for a long time.

Up here over a mile-high, no, nothing will out accelerate a Tesla.

That's an Achilles heal for ICE.

I actually prefer gas burners I just wanted to bunch Signified's panties.

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Out of curiosity. What are you running? Sounds pretty freaking fast.

Ya gotta read this as Marisa Tomie in My Cousin Vinny:

A Porsche 996 Turbo Cabriolet w/X50 package or Porsche 996 Turbo S Cabriolet which came standard with the X50 package. The X50 package included upgraded turbos, Borg Warner K24s. The K24s bumped horsepower from 420 to 445. However, I believe Mr. SIGnified confused his units and meant to say 650 Newton-meters of torque.

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Originally posted by trapper189:

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Out of curiosity. What are you running? Sounds pretty freaking fast.

Ya gotta read this as Marisa Tomie in My Cousin Vinny:

A Porsche 996 Turbo Cabriolet w/X50 package or Porsche 996 Turbo S Cabriolet which came standard with the X50 package. The X50 package included upgraded turbos, Borg Warner K24s. The K24s bumped horsepower from 420 to 445. However, I believe Mr. SIGnified confused his units and meant to say 650 Newton-meters of torque.

Winner winner chicken dinner! 1000 points to the tappet brothers. 996 x50 cab with mods. The X50 also provides bigger intercoolers.


With the ecu tune I’m making about 550+ bhp at the crank. Paid less than 1/2 of new w/12k miles right at the beginning of the last recession. The k24s move so much air, that asking for more/full power at 120mph, is no issue.

Marisa Tomei: “I mean just look at the rear tires at 305 x 35R19!”

So, not nearly as fast as a Plaid, as a daily driver.

I liked my old Porsches, and I will be buying another old Viper, but they do not pull anything like a Tesla.

I seriously doubt any 550 hp car has a quarter remotely close to that of a Plaid or 3P

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Originally posted by Aglifter:
So, not nearly as fast as a Plaid, as a daily driver.

I liked my old Porsches, and I will be buying another old Viper, but they do not pull anything like a Tesla.

I seriously doubt any 550 hp car has a quarter remotely close to that of a Plaid or 3P

I already said and electrics gonna beat anything from a dig. I have to shift manual transmission. My quarter-mile time is 3.2 I know Tesla at 2.5s can do it faster. We’re not talking about drag races here. Dragging from a dig is a very specialized suspension setup.

Anybody that spent any time behind the wheel knows A fast driving road car doesn’t necessarily have a great dig time.

Who wants to put their money where their mouth is?

Do you think really that Plaid can do 205 mph for any length of time? I doubt it could even stay within a half mile of me on the pull from 75 to 185 mph, especially after 15 minutes of hard driving.

We haven’t even begun to talk braking and turning. Haha ha … See ya!