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| Political Cynic |
I guess they really do want a war | |||
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| Partial dichotomy |
https://www.yahoo.com/news/art...&bt_ts=1764190343817 Two West Virginia National Guard members shot in DC have died, the state's governor says WASHINGTON (AP) — Two West Virginia National Guard members shot Wednesday near the White House have died, the state’s governor said. Governor Patrick Morrisey confirmed their deaths in a social media post. "We are in ongoing contact with federal officials as the investigation continues," he said. A suspect who was in custody also was shot and has injuries that are not believed to be life-threatening, according to a law enforcement official not authorized to discuss the matter publicly and who spoke to AP on condition of anonymity. One National Guard member was shot in the head, according to a person familiar with the details of the incident who spoke to AP on condition of anonymity. The shooting happened at the corner of 17th and H Streets in the northwest quadrant of the city, roughly two blocks northwest of the White House. Emergency medical responders transported all three victims to a hospital, according to Vito Maggiolo, the public information officer for the DC Fire and Emergency Services. The Joint DC Task Force confirmed they responded to the incident after reports of the shooting. The Metropolitan Police Department also said they were on-scene. Police tape cordoned off the scene where emergency fire and police vehicles’ lights flashed and helicopter blades thudded overhead. Agents from the U.S. Secret Service and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives were on scene, as National Guard troops stood sentry nearby. At least one helicopter landed on the National Mall. President Donald Trump, who is in Florida celebrating Thanksgiving, warned in a statement on social media that the “animal” who shot the guardsmen “will pay a very steep price.” “God bless our Great National Guard, and all of our Military and Law Enforcement. These are truly Great People,” Trump wrote on Truth Social. “I, as President of the United States, and everyone associated with the Office of the Presidency, am with you!” The presence of the National Guard in the nation’s capital has been a flashpoint issue for months, fueling a court fight and a broader public policy debate about the Trump administration’s use of the military to combat what officials cast as an out-of-control crime problem. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer wrote on social media that he was “closely monitoring” the shooting and that his “heart breaks for the victims of this horrific shooting.” A spokesperson for Mayor Muriel Bowser said that local leaders were actively monitoring the situation. Bowser had spent the morning at a Thanksgiving event at the Convention Center and then held a press conference to explain why she was not seeking reelection. Trump issued an emergency order in August that federalized the local police force and sent in National Guard troops from eight states and the District of Columbia. The order expired a month later but the troops remained. The soldiers have patrolled neighborhoods, train stations and other locations, participated in highway checkpoints and also have been assigned to trash pickup and to guard sports events. Last week, a federal judge ordered an end to the deployment but also put her order on hold for 21 days to allow the Trump administration time to either remove the troops or appeal the decision. | |||
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Horrible. https://x.com/Osint613/status/1993786504632827959 __________________________________ NRA Benefactor I lost all my weapons in a boating, umm, accident. http://www.aufamily.com/forums/ | |||
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| safe & sound |
I'm OK with them not being charged, so long as we have a two way street. For example, if you call for violence, and get violence in return, then those bringing that violence should not be charged. Bar rules. You run your mouth, you reap the whirlwind. | |||
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| Political Cynic |
I’m ok with that. As long as we get to visit violence on those calling for it then they can call for whatever they want. | |||
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| Partial dichotomy |
According to this report, they are in critical condition. https://www.foxnews.com/live-n...cks-from-white-house | |||
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And 500 more Guardsmen are being ordered to DC according to the updates on the story that 6guns linked. | |||
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It was a goddammed moose slime. Rahmanullah Lakanwal https://nypost.com/2025/11/26/...guard-members-in-dc/ ____________________________ Eeewwww, don't touch it! Here, poke at it with this stick. | |||
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| Charmingly unsophisticated |
I spoke with a CSM friend of mine, one victim is a lower enlisted with an MP company. The other is Air National Guard. The 'presence patrol' soldiers are not armed. I wasn't surprised about that, but I was surprised they work in pairs. I would have thought at least 4, just for this very circumstance. _______________________________ The artist formerly known as AllenInWV | |||
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| Staring back from the abyss |
More blood on Biden's hands. ________________________________________________________ It is long past time for a Convention of States. The Founding Fathers gave us this tool to fix an out of control government and we need to use it. | |||
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| Green grass and high tides |
Not armed? That is as sine. Who in the hell is going to put these guys out on the street with no means to defend themselves. That is unbelievable. "Practice like you want to play in the game" | |||
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| Charmingly unsophisticated |
My guess is since it's not martial law and it's not a governor deploying troops in their own state, the Pesky Comitatus Act prevents putting armed soldiers on the street. Heck, back in the 80s I received ONE magazine with three rounds, and the top of the magazine covered with tape in order to guard a legit ammo holding area. I can imagine today's risk averse military contemplating putting Joe Private on a U.S. city's streets with a basic combat load. From what my friend told me, it wouldn't have mattered if they were armed or not. Dude basically had the drop on them. _______________________________ The artist formerly known as AllenInWV | |||
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| Staring back from the abyss |
The DC Chief mentioned in the press conference that they were armed. Hard knowing what's true anymore. ________________________________________________________ It is long past time for a Convention of States. The Founding Fathers gave us this tool to fix an out of control government and we need to use it. | |||
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| Green grass and high tides |
[QUOTE From what my friend told me, it wouldn't have mattered if they were armed or not. Dude basically had the drop on them.[/QUOTE] Maybe, maybe not. But they had no chance without the means to defend themselves. Which is reckless at the very least putting these guys in that situation. "Practice like you want to play in the game" | |||
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No idea if they’re correct or not but earlier Fox reported a female Guardsman was shot in the chest, then the shooter took her gun and shot her in the head. | |||
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A Grateful American![]() |
Report I heard (radio drive time) was shooter had revolver, shot first Guard member in the back, took her weapon, shot her in the head, then shot second member in the neck , before third member short shooter multiple times, neutralizing threat. Certain the actual event will be factually revealed as investigation is conducted/concluded. "the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא עוד | |||
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| Charmingly unsophisticated |
...in response to OldRugged... Exactly what my wife was saying. Regrettably, military has to play with different rules. I'll have to ask my buddy tomorrow. I read the same thing, about some being armed. I've seen some pictures showing (presumably) MPs with sidearms. _______________________________ The artist formerly known as AllenInWV | |||
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Don't Panic![]() |
That 1878 law didn't stop President Harding from putting heavily armed Marines to work guarding postal workers in the 1920s, with orders to shoot to kill if attacked. USPS.gov "Send in the Marines" | |||
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| Freethinker |
In the 1920s the posse comitatus act applied only to the Army, not the Navy or Marine Corps. Although I wasn’t aware of it because it was a long time ago that I first learned about the law, according to the ’net it was expanded only relatively recently to apply to all the military forces except the Coast Guard. ► 6.0/94.0 “I can’t give you brains, but I can give you a diploma.” — The Wizard of Oz | |||
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One of the troops shot yesterday has now passed. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...bf6d3207f3853a&ei=13 | |||
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