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Well, Chief Justice John Roberts has opened his big mouth. Roll Eyes

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In an extraordinary display of conflict between the executive and judiciary branches, Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts rejected calls for impeaching federal judges shortly after President Donald Trump demanded the removal of a judge who ruled against his deportation plans.

“For more than two centuries, it has been established that impeachment is not an appropriate response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision,” Roberts said in a rare statement. “The normal appellate review process exists for that purpose.”


One interesting fact; it was Roberts in 2014 who appointed U.S. District Judge James Boasberg to the U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, also known as the FISA Court.

https://www.breitbart.com/news...st-his-deportations/



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What does judicial impeachment mean? Is he an ex-judge? Or does he have to be “convicted” before he’s outta there?

With respect to federal judges, under Article I of the U.S. Constitution, the House of Representatives has the power to impeach and the Senate the power to hold a trial to determine whether removal is appropriate. The House can impeach a judge with a simple majority vote. However, a judge may only be removed from office following a trial and a vote to convict by a two-thirds majority of the Senate.

Thanks.

Sadly, a vote to convict by a two-thirds majority of the Senate doesn’t sound likely.



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Can anything actually happen at this point if Trump decides to ignore all judicial orders going forward? Other than "hey, stop that!" is there any other fallout to be concerned about?


I think there is in setting precedence. Where does it end? Ignoring will then become the norm no matter who is in office…no bueno.

Let it play out…most of these setbacks get overturned or overridden.


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We have more than enough elements of a Third World bananautocracy in this country already. We do not need any more regardless of how annoyed we might be by judicial decisions. As mentioned, what one individual or party gets away with today will be done by someone else tomorrow.




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Putin Agrees to Limited Cease-Fire on Ukraine’s Energy Targets Following Trump Call

The United States had previously backed a 30-day cease-fire covering all areas of the ongoing Russia–Ukraine war.

WASHINGTON—After President Donald Trump held his much-anticipated call with Russian President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday, the White House announced Putin is willing to accept a partial cease-fire covering energy and infrastructure targets.

The two leaders started the conversation at 10 a.m. EST in the Oval Office, with Trump aiming to broker a cease-fire between Russia and Ukraine.

The agreement comes a week after Kyiv agreed to a U.S.-backed 30-day cease-fire covering all aspects of the ongoing conflict between Russia and Ukraine. Putin had indicated some willingness to enter into the more expansive temporary cease-fire but said he had other concerns the proposal didn’t address.

“The leaders agreed that the movement to peace will begin with an energy and infrastructure ceasefire, as well as technical negotiations on implementation of a maritime ceasefire in the Black Sea, full ceasefire and permanent peace,” the White House said in a readout of the nearly two-hour call.

Prior to the call, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Andrii Sybiha stated that Kyiv is not an “obstacle” to a peace deal with Russia and expressed optimism that both sides could achieve peace under Trump’s leadership.
“Our approach: Now is a time for diplomacy, for a strong diplomacy,” Sybiha said on March 18 during a geopolitical conference in India.

“We also really believe that with [the] leadership of President Trump, we could achieve long-lasting, just peace.”

The call follows a meeting in Moscow last week between Trump’s envoy Steve Witkoff and Putin.

According to Witkoff, both the U.S. and Russian sides made “a lot of progress” during that meeting, which lasted more than three hours.

During an interview with CBS’s “Face the Nation” on Sunday, Witkoff said, the significant gap between Ukraine and Russia that existed prior to Trump’s inauguration has been narrowed.

He noted that a cease-fire involves addressing various factors, such as preventing fighting along a 2,000-kilometer (1,200-mile) border and in areas like Kursk. He mentioned the need to consider Russia’s focus on specific regions, the protection of a nuclear reactor supplying electricity to Ukraine, access to ports, and potential agreements related to the Black Sea.

This is a developing story and will be updated with additional details.




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"The difference between God and these judges is God knows he's not one of these judges."



https://x.com/DogRightGirl/status/1902001205699580246

Good Lord, how dare that pompous ass talk all over a sitting US Congressman like that!!! I like Burchett and admire him greatly, but would have preferred to see him tell this CNN talking head to "shut up while I'm talking"!


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This girl is awesome...

https://x.com/DataRepublican/s.../1901999752549421288





No, these people are likely not receiving checks. The cleanup of the Social Security database is about something much more important. It is about establishing a ground truth.

There is a reason that DC is panicking about establishing a truly accurate Social Security database, and it is because much of federal government revolves around having no true ground truth. If your average person understood the scope and scale of the problem of having this data scattered across various agencies, how it hurts normal citizens, they would revolt.

I link to @heminator
article below. But here's a summary: up to 75% of illegal aliens are using stolen Social Security numbers. Chances are, your Social Security number is being used by an illegal immigrant and you don't even know it.

The Treasury Department permits it, because it empowers them to receive more revenue. But they are not incentivized to care about the incidental effects, such as illegal aliens fraudulent benefits.

HHS permits it, because it grows their scope and scale of influence as they get more financing, get more beneficiaries, and so on. The lack of ground truth, rationalized to help undocumented migrants, is what creates a collusion of decentralized incentives all aimed at growing the power of each individual department in the federal government.

But it is not a victimless crime. It directly impacts people who try to file for Social Security Disability and can't, because someone is working under their number. Or, it causes people to fail background checks.

If we pulled together all those fragmented datasets, and constructed a truly accurate Social Security database - one SSN per person - not only would the federal government be greatly reduced in power, we would also be able to document exactly who and where all the illegal aliens are. That's right - we already have all the information required to deport illegal immigrants in our system, we just don't want to look at it.

As it stands, the current system relies on the ground truth being scattered in fragmented pieces throughout the federal government. And that's the real reason why politicians are in such a panic about cleaning up this data.

https://realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2022/



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Well, Chief Justice John Roberts has opened his big mouth. Roll Eyes

He is compromised. He showed it in his ruling on Obamacare and the twisted logic he used to get the result the Left wanted.


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Well, Chief Justice John Roberts has opened his big mouth. Roll Eyes

One interesting fact; it was Roberts in 2014 who appointed U.S. District Judge James Boasberg to the U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, also known as the FISA Court.

But wait, there's more:

John Roberts appointed Boasberg to be presiding judge of the FISA court after Judge Rosemary Collyer’s term was over. In the aftermath of the DOJ manipulating the FISA court to attack President Trump, Chief Justice Roberts needed Boasberg to protect the FISC. As a result, Boasberg sat at the epicenter of some of the worst DC judicial decisions ever. Including the precedent of forcing VP Mike Pence to testify in a grand jury against the accused, President Donald Trump.

Simultaneously, Boasberg did everything he could to fulfill his commitment to Roberts, even appointing Mary McCord, wife of Roberts’ senior staff Sheldon Snook, to be amicus to the court.

Yes, Roberts will protect Boasberg, because Boasberg -who Roberts appointed to be presiding judge of the FISC- has major leverage over Roberts.

Boasberg has assembled his shields over years, and CTH has outlined every step. The brutally obvious began surfacing when Boasberg appointed *Mary McCord as amicus to the FISC.
[*strong probability McCord is active CIA]

McCord’s husband, Sheldon Snook, was the key staff of Roberts and almost certainly the leaker of the Dobbs decision. Chief Justice Roberts had to hide that reality (which he did after the US Marshal investigation) because it put the leak inside his office.

Boasberg knows this (and other stuff) and Roberts reacts to eyes on Boasberg from a defensive posture.

https://theconservativetreehou...oasberg/#more-270208



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No, these people are likely not receiving checks.


My mother passed away in November of 2019, before she died she had added me to her bank account so I wouldn't have to go through probate to use it. It only had a few hundred bucks in it after paying for expenses and whatnot. The following spring while grabbing lunch I noticed an ATM and decided to check the balance on my mother's account. Low and behold there was $13k in it. I pulled an office space when I saw it:




I got very excited until I realized something was likely very wrong. The next day I went to the bank and confirmed what I had assumed, that she was still getting her social security payments. I called SS and explained that while I could really use the money, I didn't want to go to federal prison. They were as surprised as I was and clawed back the money.




 
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Roberts knows he can get away with this, though. He doesn't stand for election, Congress isn't going to impeach him (Republicans won't even break the filibuster for ordinary legislation!), and it is very unlikely that Trump would ever flout a Supreme Court order.

In this environment, the Court is sovereign. It has near total control over the executive branch in domestic affairs. Watergrate demonstrated this decisively. Judicial prerogative, de facto, trumps executive prerogative if the President is a populist or a conservative.

The only way out of this framework is through a unilateral decision by the President to explicitly ignore a Supreme Court ruling. That will be a huge public fight. I believe Trump could get away with this if he wanted, but it seems unlikely that he does.

Even if Trump bends the knee, this problem will remain: if the Supreme Court is sovereign then elections are meaningless. Congress cannot legislate (because of the self-imposed filibuster) and the President is subordinate to the unelected Court. Because of civil service protections, he can only appoint 0.1% of federal government positions so the bureaucracy is untouchable too.

A neglectful Congress, sovereign judiciary, powerful bureaucracy, and weak President means the Swamp is immune from electoral control. If conservatives accepts this institutional arrangement there is nothing more to do or say.

There will never, under any circumstances, be any meaningful change in a system arranged like this. Only the President, acting unilaterally to seize back his due constitutional powers, can enact reforms. In order to do so, he must battle all of the other branches at the same time and bend them to his will.

Only all-out political war can result in a restoration of popular, elected government. The whole purpose of the post-1945 consensus was to eliminate any ability for the people to undo the administrative state through elections. The two attempts to do so--Nixon and Trump--came under intense literal assault from the institutions.

The problem, of course, is that this system, by its very construction, delegitimizes itself. Americans increasingly hate their own government because they see how much the ruling class hates them. It is parasitic, tyrannical, and treacherous. Open borders, endless foreign wars, vaccine mandates, lockdowns--there is a reason Trump keeps winning bigger and bigger majorities!

The hope of the Swamp is that the flood of migrants will eventually lock their power into place indefinitely and the founding stock of the country will simply capitulate and troon out or OD on fentanyl.

America needs a Tribune--a Champion of the People--against the corrupt elites who bleed the treasury dry. What else is there to hope for? Our options are to accept defeat or to find a champion. That's it.

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John Roberts couldn’t even figure out how one of his own rulings was leaked in an unprecedented breach of security, and yet he presumes to lecture the President of the United States on what he can or can’t say about a corrupt judge?



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How is shutting down USAID "unconstitutional" when it was brought into this world via Executive Order and the current President shut it down by Executive Order?

I hope Trump tells this judge to get fucked in the most Trumpian way possible.


 
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I hope Trump tells this judge to get fucked in the most Trumpian way possible.

That's exactly what must happen.

Josiah Lippincott, above, states it more eloquently:

... and it is very unlikely that Trump would ever flout a Supreme Court order.

In this environment, the Court is sovereign. It has near total control over the executive branch in domestic affairs. Watergrate demonstrated this decisively. Judicial prerogative, de facto, trumps executive prerogative if the President is a populist or a conservative.

The only way out of this framework is through a unilateral decision by the President to explicitly ignore a Supreme Court ruling. That will be a huge public fight. I believe Trump could get away with this if he wanted, but it seems unlikely that he does.

Even if Trump bends the knee, this problem will remain: if the Supreme Court is sovereign then elections are meaningless. Congress cannot legislate (because of the self-imposed filibuster) and the President is subordinate to the unelected Court. Because of civil service protections, he can only appoint 0.1% of federal government positions so the bureaucracy is untouchable too.

A neglectful Congress, sovereign judiciary, powerful bureaucracy, and weak President means the Swamp is immune from electoral control. If conservatives accepts this institutional arrangement there is nothing more to do or say.

There will never, under any circumstances, be any meaningful change in a system arranged like this. Only the President, acting unilaterally to seize back his due constitutional powers, can enact reforms. In order to do so, he must battle all of the other branches at the same time and bend them to his will.



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Biden ignored the Supremes with his college debt forgiveness.




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With all due respect, Your Honor, blow it out your ass. We have reached the limits of our tolerance and patience.

DOJ Again Refuses to Give Judge Boasberg Sensitive Information on National Security Related to Deportation Flights


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