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Is there a thread about civilians (or LEOs) using deadly force to prevent looting?

The Florida Governor is proposing legislation to expand “Stand your ground” defense to include looting, among other things.


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Here is the Proposed legislation:

https://www.flgov.com/2020/09/...ment-protection-act/


The Combatting Violence, Disorder and Looting and Law Enforcement Protection Act has three components, outlined below:

New Criminal Offenses to Combat Rioting, Looting and Violence

Prohibition on Violent or Disorderly Assemblies: 3rd degree felony when 7 or more persons are involved in an assembly and cause damage to property or injury to other persons.
Prohibition on Obstructing Roadways: 3rd degree felony to obstruct traffic during an unpermitted protest, demonstration or violent or disorderly assembly; driver is NOT liable for injury or death caused if fleeing for safety from a mob.
Prohibition on Destroying or Toppling Monuments: 2nd degree felony to destroy public property during a violent or disorderly assembly.
Prohibition on Harassment in Public Accommodations: 1st degree misdemeanor for a participant in a violent or disorderly assembly to harass or intimidate a person at a public accommodation, such as a restaurant.
RICO Liability: RICO liability attaches to anyone who organizes or funds a violent or disorderly assembly.
Increased Penalties

Mandatory Minimum Jail Sentence: Striking a law enforcement officer (including with a projectile) during a violent or disorderly assembly = 6 months mandatory minimum jail sentence.
Offense Enhancements: Offense and/or sentence enhancements for: (1) throwing an object during a violent or disorderly assembly that strikes a civilian or law enforcement officer; (2) assault/battery of a law enforcement officer during a violent or disorderly assembly; and (3) participation in a violent or disorderly assembly by an individual from another state.
Citizen and Taxpayer Protection Measures

No “Defund the Police” Permitted: Prohibits state grants or aid to any local government that slashes the budget for law enforcement services.
Victim Compensation: Waives sovereign immunity to allow a victim of a crime related to a violent or disorderly assembly to sue local government for damages where the local government is grossly negligent in protecting persons and property.
Government Employment/Benefits: Terminates state benefits and makes anyone ineligible for employment by state/local government if convicted of participating in a violent or disorderly assembly.
Bail: No bond or bail until first appearance in court if charged with a crime related to participating in a violent or disorderly assembly; rebuttable presumption against bond or bail after first appearance


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that's been posted 3 or 4 times now dude :P





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that's been posted 3 or 4 times now dude :P


Sorry, my search did not produce it.

Is it in this thread or elsewhere... I would like to see the reaction.


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I'd look at this posting of it in particular if I were tleddy:

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So I see... my memory at 79 equals that of Biden.

Whoopsie!


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Some patriotic Americans absolutely taking out the trash in DC tonight. We all knew it was coming to this.



https://twitter.com/stillgray/...785367173414912?s=19


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The Great Reset was discussed earlier in this thread, it's important to understand what it is.
A lot of support from the usual suspects, nationalism vs. the globalists/technocrats. "Build Back Better" looks to be another Biden plagiarized notion --




Link to original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugRnjpXEwTo

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Some patriotic Americans absolutely taking out the trash in DC tonight. We all knew it was coming to this.



https://twitter.com/stillgray/...785367173414912?s=19


About freaking time.



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Some patriotic Americans absolutely taking out the trash in DC tonight. We all knew it was coming to this.



https://twitter.com/stillgray/...785367173414912?s=19


About freaking time.

A good illustration of how they fold when a confronted with a push back. It's starting to approach the opening of the door that can't be closed that Joe Rogan spoke of.


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Some patriotic Americans absolutely taking out the trash in DC tonight. We all knew it was coming to this.



https://twitter.com/stillgray/...785367173414912?s=19


About freaking time.

A good illustration of how they fold when a confronted with a push back. It's starting to approach the opening of the door that can't be closed that Joe Rogan spoke of.


The left asked for this. They have awakened the sleeping giant. Once it is fully awake, and the rest of America follows suit, the leftist trash will rue the day they started this ball rolling.




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Some patriotic Americans absolutely taking out the trash in DC tonight. We all knew it was coming to this.

So the police set up the confrontation between the Trump supporters and Biden's Brown Shirts by forcing the Trump supporters to walk through the Brown Shirt gauntlet. Then when the Trump supporters fight back, the police try to intervene.

Jackasses.



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When the larger group left after sundown the leftists came out dressed in uniform and attacked them. Number of videos in the article.

Trump blasts 'ANTIFA SCUM,' media after violence mars MAGA marches in DC



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I hope the next organized Trump rally supporters are carrying baseball bats. you know in case we wanna play some hardball afterwards.
 
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When the larger group left after sundown the leftists came out dressed in uniform and attacked them. Number of videos in the article.

Trump blasts 'ANTIFA SCUM,' media after violence mars MAGA marches in DC

Let's start calling them what they are, Biden's Brown Shirts, or maybe even more accurately, Biden's Red Guard.



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Seems to me there should have been some national guard presence. This was more than predictable.


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Seems to me there should have been some national guard presence. This was more than predictable.


Well, the DC Mayor is a Demokrat. She's not going to do anything to help Trump supporters.
 
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Antifa-Aligned Group Cheers Alleged Arson at Police Officer’s Home, Twitter Allows Tweet

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...mpaign=mb-2020-11-18

Detectives launched an investigating after an alleged arson took place outside the private home of a law enforcement officer in Oregon last week, authorities said.

A spokesman for the Washington County Sheriff’s Office told the Oregon Public Broadcasting the Nov. 11 incident is still under investigation but they believe the fire, which burned a vehicle outside of the officer’s home, was arson.

The Pacific Northwest (PNW) Youth Liberation Front, a group that is aligned with far-left anarcho-communist group Antifa, has since shared the story on Twitter, calling the alleged arson at the officer’s home “so cool.”

Investigators said they believe the people involved in the arson are linked to recent protests that have ravaged through the city of Portland and could be a form of intimidation. Washington County is located about 12 miles from Portland.

Fox News contacted Twitter after noticing the post, but the tech company did not immediately say whether the post violated its policies, the outlet reported.

According to authorities, there is a concern that “the officer was surveilled and followed home,” investigators with knowledge on the case told OPB.

For the past months—especially during the chaotic summer period when Portland officials have seen nearly daily protests that often turned into violent riots—stories have circulated from Portland Police Bureau officials being harassed online and their home’s getting vandalized, according to Portland Lieutenant Greg Pashley.

In the latest case dating back to early November, Portland protesters targeted the home of newly elected city commissioner Dan Ryan, who was the deciding vote on a failed proposal to slash police funding.

The group of about 60 people, including Black Lives Matter activists, initially gathered at Arbor Lodge Park in the northern part of the city before marching to the home of Ryan.

“Individuals broke a window, threw burning flares and paint filled balloons at the home, and broke potted plants. That criminal activity prompted police to declare an unlawful assembly,” the Unified Command said in an incident summary.
Intent on Establishing Socialism or Communism

PNW was created by youth and students and have described themselves as dedicated to the “liberation of all people through any means necessary.”

According to their website, the group wants Immigration Customs Enforcement and the Department of Homeland Security abolished, labeling them as “fascist systems” that “terrorize our community’s [sic].” They also want to defund the police and “put an intimidate [sic] end to the militarization of local police departments.”

National Police Association spokesperson and retired Sgt. Betsy Brandner Smith said Antifa is not just an idea, as Democratic candidate Joe Biden has said, but a dangerous organization with a similar structure to that of “an Islamic terror cell.”

“Antifa is more than just an idea, Antifa has quite a history, going back to the 20s and 30s and Hitler’s brown shirts and then we come into the anarchists of the 60s through to today,” Smith told The Epoch Times “Crossroads” program.

Smith said Democrats have struggled to identify Antifa due to their being “no head of the organization,” and “no real paramilitary structure.”

“The left likes to be able to go to a blue-checked Twitter account and say ‘okay, this guy’s the head of Antifa.’ That’s now how it works,” she said. “Antifa’s structure is really more like that of an Islamic terror cell, something like that. But just because we don’t have a paramilitary structure for Antifa, doesn’t mean they don’t exist and doesn’t mean they’re not dangerous.”

The retired sergeant said people in the United States “need to be able to engage in peaceful protests” and noted that while the country has seen many peaceful protests in the name of Black Lives Matter, the “radical Marxist arm of Black Lives Matter incorporated has now hooked up with Antifa and now they don’t peacefully protest; they burn, they loot, they riot.”

She also said that every police leader in the country needs to video tape and document the protests and show the American public what is really happening, after noting that law enforcement members were being put in danger during the riots which were being reported as “mostly peaceful” in the media.


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RICO Liability: RICO liability attaches to anyone who organizes or funds a violent or disorderly assembly.
Increased Penalties.

Ah, yes. Good.


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