Is a closet and he's out of it.


That is all.

This movie was woke trash.

The ONLY redeeming value was Dan Fogler as Jacob Kowalski.

Agree. Not a good movie.

I have a friend who's a massive Harry Potter fan, and she even said it was awful.

As a result, I haven't bothered watching.

Rowling has said for 20 years that Dumbledore was gay, so it shouldn’t be a shock except to more recent Potter fans.

The author saying that even though it wasn’t actually spelled out in any of the books is different than making a movie where it was the central tenet. They rub your face in it in this movie. None of which matters. It was a shit movie regardless of the sexuality.

In her head he might, or might not have been gay, I would love for anyone to actually show anything in the actual books that would lend credence to this. It is Rowling’s product clearly but for her to say after the fact that D was gay while the actual product never actually said that is a bit disingenuous. She could say he loved model trains as well but she provided no proof in her novels. So social posturing aside, I don’t think it matters since it’s not in the books.

I don't even care about how gay Dumbledore may or may not have been.

All in all it was a fairly bad movie. I've got a super low bar for movies.

My daughter and I watched one Harry Potter movie each weekend ending with Crimes of Grindelwald, so we were all set to see the Dumbledore one in the theater. The my daughter mentioned her friends were going to see it and she went with them instead of me. I’m OK with that now after watching it on HBOMax.

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The author saying that even though it wasn’t actually spelled out in any of the books...

Wasn't in the books, but apparently Rowling made a notation about the character's "true" sexual orientation to the director of Harry Potter & The Half-Blood Price while she was proofreading the script for the sixth movie. Dumbledore apparently was supposed to say a line that affectionately recalled a girl he knew as a youngling, and Rowling wanted the director to know that would never have happened because the character was gay. I remember an upset customer who claimed to be a Potter junkie telling this to a coworker maybe 7 or 8 years ago, and of course I had to immediately look it up on one of our shop's computers. Sure enough that was the story.

I suppose it's too bad about the watchability of the current film, though it's not like we'd be caught dead going to the cineplex these days. I recall kinda liking the Potter films even if I don't remember many of the details.

I guess my point is it doesn’t matter even a tiny bit what the author used as motivation when she wrote the book. If it never made it on the page it is irrelevant to most people. We don’t read Shakespeare and then claim the characters were this or that unless you can derive it from the written word somehow. They were exactly what was written. Anything else is merely an English professors whimsy. Like my dumb analogy earlier, she may have envisioned him being a true fan of model trains and that’s why the Hogwarts Express is the primary mode of transport but that isn’t in the book so who cares?

Literally she could say anything she wants about her “vision” and it could change over the years as society changes. What matters is what she wrote. What we all read.

He wasn’t gay in the books, the Weasley twins weren’t furries, Hermione didn’t go both ways, etc etc, no matter what the author says was her motivation. It’s an interesting aspect but it isn’t part of the story. She could have made it so but she didn’t and unless she rewrites it there is zero reason to claim he’s gay.

Plus it was still a shitty movie. Lol

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Originally posted by myrottiety:
I don't even care about how gay Dumbledore may or may not have been.

All in all it was a fairly bad movie. I've got a super low bar for movies.

Agreed - it was very mediocre. None of the Harry Potter movies have been great - sorry 30 year olds - but this one was especially not great.

It’s my understanding that it wasn’t Rowling that said Dumbledore was gay it was the second actor (Michael Gambon, who replaced Richard Harris) who decided he was gay.

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Originally posted by SigJacket:
Rowling has said for 20 years that Dumbledore was gay, so it shouldn’t be a shock except to more recent Potter fans.

Which was, admitted by the author, a retcon anyway.