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RIP Buddy, JP and Ritchie.

The Day The Music Died




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We visited the Surf Ballroom and the crash site a few years ago, it's historic and sad.

Buddy Holly performed here in Davenport five nights before the crash:

https://qctimes.com/entertainm...urce=home-the-latest

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I read recently that they found Buddy Holly's trademark glasses in the field after the Spring thaw, but they were then misplaced at the Sheriff's office for the next 20 years.

Here is another article about the missing glasses:

The Strange Case of Buddy Holly's Final Pair of Glasses
BY NICK KEPPLER
FEBRUARY 27, 2016

Sheriff Jerry Allen of Cerro Gordo County, Iowa, was combing through a storage vault in a courthouse basement on February 29, 1980 when he came across an envelope. It was from the coroner's office and read, "Charles Hardin Holley, rec'd April 7, 1959." Allen opened it and found a pair of black-framed angular eyeglasses, the lenses scratched.

The sheriff instantly connected them to the most famous incident to have ever happened in that rural patch: "The Day the Music Died." On February 3, 1959, a charter flight carrying musicians Buddy Holly, The Big Bopper, and Ritchie Valens to a tour stop crashed into a cornfield outside Mason City, Iowa, due to a combination of inclement weather and pilot error. The crash killed all three early rock stars and the pilot, Roger Peterson.

Besides Holly's glasses, the envelope discovered by Sheriff Allen also contained some dice, a cigarette lighter, and two wristwatches, one engraved with the name "J.P. Richardson"—The Big Bopper's real name. The watch still ran "quite well," Allen told a reporter for United Press International a few weeks later. "I cranked it up."

When first responders scoured the crash site in 1959, they collected personal effects, which were sent to the victims' families. Allen speculated that the leftover items were flung from the plane and found by a farmer two months later, when the snow melted. The coroner's office collected and then misplaced them in the process of moving to a new county courthouse. The envelope spent 21 years in a locked steel cabinet in a storage vault.

The glasses were Buddy Holly's trademark. The Texas-born singer had 20/800 vision and couldn't read the top line of the eye chart as a boy, though he initially went spec-less at gigs, thinking glasses would hurt his image. According to Texas Monthly, that changed after an early show where he dropped his guitar pick and had to crawl around on stage searching for it. He still ditched his glasses for his first promotional photos, but he finally found a style of black frames he liked. In a great leap for bespectacled nerds everywhere, Holly managed to make the thick-framed glasses cool.

Upon discovering the glasses, Sheriff Allen planned to turn them over to Buddy Holly's parents. However, Holly's widow, Maria Holly Diaz, who lost her husband when he was just 22, objected. The parties couldn't come to an agreement and the matter went to court. They weren't the only people who wanted the glasses. According to The Day the Music Died: The Last Tour of Buddy Holly, The Big Bopper and Ritchie Valens by Larry Lehmer, Sheriff Allen ignored a Holly fanatic from Delaware who offered $502.37 for the glasses, pleading to Allen that it was his entire life savings. "I'd wish I'd have just put the damn things back and forgotten about them," complained Allen, according to Lehmer.

On March 20, 1981, a judge granted the glasses to Diaz at the same Mason City courthouse where Allen had discovered them. According to Texas Monthly, she sold them for $80,000 in 1998 to Civic Lubbock, the nonprofit behind the city's Buddy Holly Center, where they are on permanent display.


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Lots of stories about the flight. One is that Dion
was offered a seat, but the cost was a month's rent on his parent's home.

$36 in 1959 is about $312 today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dion_DiMucci


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I had also heard that Waylon Jennings was supposed to be on the flight, but gave his seat to one of the others (can't remember which one) because they were coming down with a cold and didn't want to have to drive all the way.... of course, growing up in Lubbock like I did, you hear all kinds of stories....
 
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I've also heard that Waylon Jennings gave up his seat on the flight.
 
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Waylon gave his seat to the Big Bopper who had a bad cold. Waylon felt for him.
 
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Again this year, on the anniversary of Buddy Holly’s death, I thought of his legacy and what might have been. So many important musicians died young, but I believe the biggest loss to all of us was Buddy Holly. He remains a huge influence on musicians all these years later. His songs continue to be covered by succeeding generations of musicians. He was only 22 years old. What might he have done had he lived?


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Again this year, on the anniversary of Buddy Holly’s death, I thought of his legacy and what might have been. So many important musicians died young, but I believe the biggest loss to all of us was Buddy Holly. He remains a huge influence on musicians all these years later. His songs continue to be covered by succeeding generations of musicians. He was only 22 years old. What might he have done had he lived?


Yes, I wonder what might have been also!




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This is from my semi-recent visit to the Lubbock Cemetery to visit graves of relatives...odd that I had never seen his grave before...

 
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Sixty-three years ago.

Photos of the performers and the crash site:

https://www.desmoinesregister....s-bopper/2667094002/
 
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If Buddy Holly had lived, he would've been the King Of Rock 'n Roll and not Presley.
 
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If Buddy Holly had lived, he would've been the King Of Rock 'n Roll and not Presley.


You got that right. I'll be wearing my "Surf ballroom" shirt tomorrow!




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Sixty-four years ago tonight.
 
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This year I’ll add that Ritchie Valens (Valenzuela) was just 17 years old, 5 years younger than Buddy Holly, when he was killed. His talent as a singer and songwriter was also unlimited, and like Buddy, one can only wonder where he might have taken his music. What a shame.


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This year I’ll add that Ritchie Valens (Valenzuela) was just 17 years old, 5 years younger than Buddy Holly, when he was killed. His talent as a singer and songwriter was also unlimited, and like Buddy, one can only wonder where he might have taken his music. What a shame.


That's for sure. He was a good one too!




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Sixty-five years ago today.

Some photos:

https://www.desmoinesregister....s-bopper/2667094002/
 
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