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Back on topic. Maybe it is not just Rian Johnson and Kathleen Kennedy. It goes much deeper than that. http://boundingintocomics.com/...WxkJx0tzLh8.facebook
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Here is something funny... Local Costco sells theater passes to the local theater chain which I buy in bulks of 4. IIRC, it’s like $32-34 for 4 tickets. I always buy them but the thugs at Disney have restrictions on them at the theater. The last time I tried to use one for a Disney film was probably 6-8 months ago or something and the theater employee told me “17 days” as in from day of release I have to wait 17 days to use a pass for their film so I either had to pay full price, see something else, or leave so I did. So seeing this thread I called the theater and talked to a manager out of curiosity. What he explained is that it is a moving target. I asked if 17 days was the standard rule and he said no, and that it is pretty much different for every Disney film. And apparently, if it bombs, like Solo, Disney makes changes to the rule allowing earlier use of passes. I find this ridiculous as I have friends with families and me turning them onto the saver passes is the only way they can afford to go, seeing that the standard movie ticket prices in 2018 are very expensive. I was not surprised at the Disney practice at all, since that company is a pack of thugs, but thought I would relay yet another shitty business practice of theirs. The passes are sold by the theater chain itself, yet Disney has so much might they can control a theater chain (Cinemark in this case) for their product. What am I doing? I'm talking to an empty telephone | |||
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I've noticed some blurb about pass restrictions on some movies (at a Regal Cinema) but had not made the connection,. wife and I do not go to the movies often, https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/ | |||
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This is what happens when Disney gets a hold of star wars... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GKSp1dVTrYk Don't weep for the stupid, or you will be crying all day | |||
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well it seems Paul S. Kemp has wighed in on this bruahhahahha. He is one of the old canon starwars authors.  I have left the following as a review on my one audible/amazon book of his
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You know, until TLJ, I was thinking I might have to forego the Disney stuff and just get my fix from the EU. Now the whole thing just disgusts me and I'm over it. Politics ruined Star Wars. Chuck Wendig and Paul Kemp can go suck shit, both of them, as much as they like. Kemp told me everything I needed to know, but for some reason, I felt compelled to check out Wendig's twatter page and it told me everything I needed to know there, also. There's a season for everything.
Point of order: His first Star Wars novel was published in 2010. Timothy Zahn pubished the first of the EU books in 1991. I wouldn't call Kemp "one of the old canon authors" since comparatively, his stuff is pretty recent. Anyway, best response yet to all this is from my brother that I just linked all this stuff to: " Sure. Fans of a series all about defeating an allegory for Nazi Germany are white supremacists. Yeah, I totally buy that shit." ______________________________________________ “There are plenty of good reasons for fighting, but no good reason ever to hate without reservation, to imagine that God Almighty Himself hates with you, too.” | |||
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Too bad. I enjoyed some of Kemps D&D novels. I'll never buy one again, unless I get it at a used book store so he doesn't see a penny. Fuck you Mr. Kemp. Don't weep for the stupid, or you will be crying all day | |||
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Anything prior to Disney is considered Old canon material. That was the point I was making, not necessarily the age of the book. I saw chuck wendig's statements a day or three back. I was busy at the time so I did not post them here. It is a shame. I doubt audible or Amazon will post my review, but I made the attempt. | |||
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Ah, point taken, then. It'll be a shame to have to go through my shelves and pick out Star Wars books to donate based on author names. If it comes to that, I'll be sad, but feel compelled none the less. I can't read and enjoy a work written by someone who loathes me to the core of my being, so I am going to avoid that altogether. I'll give it a few more months to see who else speaks up. If Timothy Zahn joins this chorus, I'll be pretty much completely over Star Wars. I will say this: Having grown up on the originals, which were heavily marketed to everyone in my age group, I grew up loving the material. I was a bona fide Star Wars nerd. I played most of the games and read a lot of the EU. I felt mixed about the prequels. My son just turned four, and is being very heavily marketed to. Both sets of grandparents are sending all kinds of Star Wars stuff his way. I feel totally the opposite about it than I thought I would, than I wanted to. I can't get excited about it with him the way he's obviously seeking and expecting from me, and it's kinda killing me. Not only is Disney shitting all over my childhood, but now they're doing it to my son as well in ways worse than just producing bad material. ______________________________________________ “There are plenty of good reasons for fighting, but no good reason ever to hate without reservation, to imagine that God Almighty Himself hates with you, too.” | |||
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Projections are this will be the first Star Wars film that loses money. Reports are Kennedy is out in September. The fans have spoken and money talks. The people who skipped Solo will end up being the change and the “force” that Disney has to deal With. I don’t like JJ as a director so it will be years even if Disney can write the ship. Disney is a ruthless company who doesn’t like defeat but reality says they made so much profit on Deadpool and Avengers sequels the loss is t that big of a deal. Expect a bunch of changes to Lucasfilm and Star Wars this year. Corps will do a bunch of knee jerk when shit doesn’t go their way. What am I doing? I'm talking to an empty telephone | |||
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On this day in 1994, Disney discovered the entire plot to the Last Jedi http://www.latimes.com/local/l...-20140617-story.html —————————————————— If the meek will inherit the earth, what will happen to us tigers? | |||
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Star Wars Story Spin-Off Movies Reportedly On Hold at Lucasfilm Read more at http://www.comingsoon.net/movi...2xIUmqK1krk.99 Following the lower-than-usual box office of this year’s Solo: A Star Wars Story, Collider is reporting that the other spin-off films set in a galaxy far, far away have been put on hold at Lucasfilm. This includes the previously announced plans for an Obi Wan Kenobi movie from director Stephen Daldry as well as the Boba Fett film from James Mangold. The studio is now putting all of their focus into the upcoming Star Wars: Episode IX, which arrives Christmas 2019, and will continue to develop the previously announced trilogy from Rian Johnson as well as the series of films from Game of Thrones creators David Benioff and D.B. Weiss. For comparison’s sake, the recently released Solo: A Star Wars Story has to date brought in just $341.9 million at the global box office, making it the lowest grossing live-action Star Wars movie to be released in theaters. The film is the lowest grossing of the recent Lucasfilm features by a significant margin, trailing behind Rogue One by over $700 million, behind The Last Jedi by nearly $1 billion, and sitting in a different galaxy from The Force Awakens which grossed $1.7 billion more. | |||
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Still going ahead with the Rian Johnson trilogy? Well there you go. It's over. Fuck you Rian Johnson Don't weep for the stupid, or you will be crying all day | |||
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More like Ruin Johnson  I'll go now "Pickin' stones and pullin' teats is a hard way to make a living. But, sure as God's got sandals, it beats fightin' dudes with treasure trails." "We've been tricked, we've been backstabbed, and we've been quite possibly, bamboozled." | |||
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My thoughts exactly. I actually had hope for the other spinnoffs. Boba Fett had the dude who did Logan. Obi Wan versus Darth Maul part duex could be fun. Not interested at all in the Rian Johnson trilogy or the next Rey/Finn debacle. | |||
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Hilarious and sad that this whole issue has been boiled down to anyone not liking the latest round of SW movies, is a racist, mysogenist, etc...where have I heard these words before? Rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat.. The simple fact is Disney bought the franchise, good movie; hired a seasoned executive with a bunch of bonafides, good move; then got about making more movies, good move; but the scripts were not cannon, not good; the new movies were beset with bad/questionable writing/plots, not good; each movie had current-day socio/political grievances interjected into the stories, not good. What is so hard for some of these executives/writers/apologist to understand the complaints? They threw away all the source material, yes, it's a kids movie/story, however there's existing material to work off of! Crappy writing, again, check existing source material...trying to film battles, hint, we've been at war for 17-years, I think there's plenty of experts who can provide some advisory assistance. What hasn't been said about all the SJW-matieral that's been thrust front & center. I have no issues with a female hero lead, the problem is she's not just a hero, she has to be a super XX-chromosome who's presence will emasculate and minimize all the males around her. Good grief, I used to look forward to these movies...  | |||
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Maybe they can bring in Michael Bay or the Pacific Rim people and complete the fuckerizement! What am I doing? I'm talking to an empty telephone | |||
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The Last Jedi was undoubtedly god-awful, but Rogue one and Solo were both pretty damn good. In fact, I think I liked Solo more than any other star wars movie that's come out since the originals(not that there's really a lot of competition...). It's weird to me that Solo is doing so poorly. Poor marketing? I admit I was in the camp of "Why are they making this?", but it was good overall. Most people I've spoken to that have actually seen it thought it was good. So why did it do so poorly? Episode 7 was mediocre at best, and episode 8 was laughably terrible. Rogue One and Solo, however, have been a light in the darkness that were Episodes 1, 2, 3, 7, and 8. It's disappointing to see that the other standalones are "on hold". ________________________________________________ | |||
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I will wade in on that one. I would like to see Solo. I absolutely refuse to give those shitheads at Disney a penny though. Until they unfuck themselves and stop being the SJW theme park ride that they have become I will never set foot in a theater to watch a Star Wars film. It really is that simple. I got morals just like Luke. Which is why he never would have killed his nephew in his sleep. Paging Adm. Prom Dress. | |||
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Four movies in four years will burn-out any fanbase, the tepid marketing didn't help either. Because they fired the original directors for Solo and had to rewrite/reshoot many scenes, that likely ate-into the marketing budget. No doubt Disney figured, it's not apart of the main saga of films so, they weren't willing to open the checkbook to promote it, particularly since the film is an amalgam of two different creations. The music wasn't particularly stirring or memriable so, there's that, and none of the new characters stood out. Solo was/is a simple entertainment flick with no stand-out scenes just digestible fun. Nothing moving or, establishing, it was palatable with little offense. Chefs and food critics talk about respecting the source or the animal; don't massacre what took time to make and create, let the flavors of the main ingredient shine. The same should've been applied to the SW films. Peter Jackson respected the hell out of the Lord of the Rings source material, he jammed as much and as accurately as he could into each 3-hour film. Benioff and Weiss did the same with GRRM's Game of Throne books and jammed as much as they could into a captivating show. Disney/Kennedy/Johnson/Abrams did no such thing, they danced around it and figured they could do better by discarding established norms/plots/stories/characters. | |||
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