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We constantly get new old music reworked or reissued. Is there a significant market for the good old stuff regurlarly reworked?
Can your ears tell the difference?

Remember the CD market early days when all releases were limited editions at least for the time being. Posponed purchases too many times only to see the items vanish (almost) forever. Bummer.
Looked for an album for years in 3 continents before the internet days.

Somewhere stored, i own a copy of a japanese edition of The Beatles Abbey Road that i brought from Tokyo. The first interesting thing about it is that officially, the Beatles CD catalogue was released worldwide starting in 1987, matching the anniversary of Sgt Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band album. The albums were released in the chronological order. I already owned the japanese AR when the first two Beatles (mono) albums were released worldwide. A long time before AR’s turn.
Second thing is having listened to several vinyl prints thousands of times, i can swear there are sounds in the japanese release i had never noticed before.

I welcome Paul McCartney extremely late release of “One hand clapping” album. An alternate take on the original “Band on the run” from 1974. That was a significant album in my early teens.
Can do without Roger Waters DSOTM Redux. Have plenty of DSOTM live, cover and tribute versions by plenty of artists, some of them remarkable, but Roger’s bitter remux is, IMO, almost unwanted.

Steve Wilson is doing a fine job working on old catalogs of my favorite artists. I do apreciate his work.

It’s also fantastic that playback hardware has made such incredible and accessible progress.

So, where do you stand and why?

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Back in the 80s Polydor came out with boxed sets of releases in the original cover, mixing, etc.

I found them in the back of Rolling Stone and bought The Who and Jimi Hendrix (to include 19 Naked Ladies album)

I missed out on the Beatles and Rolling Stones due to a six month deployment.

Not Japanese.

I did have an original Japanese release of Roger Water - Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking, original cover and all

Recently acquired an original release of an unopened UK pressing of Blind Faith






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Back in college, I used to try and buy Japanese pressings of albums, even paying a slightly higher price for better vinyl quality, and also buying Mobile Fidelity pressings, especially The Beatles. At the time, I only had a cheap sound system (Technics, Pioneer, etc) and when I got a high-resolution audiophile system, I could actually hear the quality. Nowadays, I still buy CDs every month, and half of them are "deluxe editions" or remixes. Remasters don't impress me any more, they still use the same old mix. But I bought many Steven Wilson remixes by Jethro Tull, XTC, and especially Yes, I have all of their box sets containing the new mixes, and Wilson does a great job. The Replacements have come out with great remixes for two of their albums that were plagued by poor mixing originally.

But the most impressive remixes have been the stuff Giles Martin (son of George) did for The Beatles, most of the albums sound like new different music. The tech behind it is interesting, he uses AI to separate the individual instruments and voices to create a track for each, and then remix. A lot of The Beatles songs have hard "stereo" mixes with stuff entirely on the right, and the left, nothing centerstage. I don't listen to the old Beatles albums, I now listen to Giles Martin's mixes. Here, the first clip is the original mix, and the second is Giles remix, best to use headphones to hear the difference.






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I have a handful of import albums, non japanese that I recall,

one I can think of of the top of my head is XTC's English Settlement,

the US release vs the UK release had some different tracks or in different order, and a different cover, and sleeves I think


some of Costello's works would have extra or different tracks on them as well


otherwise, I have some of Costello's albums or rather CD's that he put out with different mixes or demo's on them



re the rest, my old ears can't tell the difference, with or with our earbuds



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Yeah,

I had to have all of the neat import CDs from Japan every time a new album came out.

They became harder to come by in the mid '90s.

Decided to start a collection of MFSL CDs instead.




 
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One summer my Guard unit supported the Boy Scout Jamboree in West Virginia. I had a playlist called "Gunned Down" that was different versions of the Peter Gunn theme. Henry Mancini, Jeff Beck, the Art of Noise, the Blues Brothers, Dick Dale, just to name a few.


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Dick Dale, must look into it. Add ELP version to the list.

Had so many of the vinyl albums mentioned, some with an extra unoppened copy.
Rolling Stones and Stranglers 3D cover albums, P.I.L. can, Beatles Magical Mystery Tour EP and Get Back original cover + book editions. Cover art was something serious.

Early editions of analog to digital sometimes were simply awful. I remember the first Led Zep CD i got was more tape hiss than sound. Others were splendid, Coltrane’s Blue Train and Cannonball Adderley’s Somethin Else sounded so good that they started me listening to jazz. Both albums were older than me.

Good times.

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Originally posted by lyman:
otherwise, I have some of Costello's albums or rather CD's that he put out with different mixes or demo's on them

I believe Costello did one album remix, Wise Up Ghost in 2013, but the rest of his catalog has not been remixed. I'm sure a lot of them have been remastered, and he does have a big one coming out next month, a deluxe box set of My Aim Is True, a 5 CD set with over 100 songs, half of them unreleased, along with a remastered disc.
https://elviscostello.com/unca...t-october-2-via-ume/

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Early editions of analog to digital sometimes were simply awful. I remember the first Led Zep CD i got was more tape hiss than sound.

The problem was when the record companies first released CDs, they used the original analog vinyl masters, resulting in harsh sound after the D/A/ process. I still have some David Bowie CDs from RCA that sound like shit compared to later remastered releases on Rykodisc.



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I have replaced a lot of my early CDs from bands like Deep Purple, King Crimson, Pink Floyd, ELP, Jimi Hendrix, etc. I have been happy with the new remixes, remasters, bonus tracks, some on DVD audio with 5.1 sound and some on BD with Atmos. The first generation CDS were ok for the time but that has been over 40 years ago.



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