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I used to think it was a bunch of hippie crap until my brothers recent diagnosis, treatment, and current remission of Stage4 Renal Cell carcinoma. Here’s a hint, stage 4 renal cell carcinoma and remission has been two terms that never go together. In a clinical trial, his physical medicine doctor told him about Keto, Fasting, Autophagy, etc. They basically came to the same conclusion as the documentary. I am a cynics cynic when it comes to these things but Keto and intermittent fasting has become my way of living. I have lost 30 LBS in 2.5 months. I’m pushing fasts to 18-20 hours. Gonna do a 24 soon. ----------------------------------------------------------- TCB all the time... | ||
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It's been a while since I watched it. I had been keto for about a year when I watched. I hope it stays on for a long time. I'm not quite OMAD (one meal day) more like 1.5 meals a day. Haven't eaten breakfast for quite a while. butter and coconut oil coffee is my breakfast I guess. I came to this from an anti-inflammatory low insulin perspective via Dr. Rhonda Patrick and many others. I'm off anything that would require a doctors prescription and feel I could go another 40+ years not listening to Government nutrition advise | |||
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Watching it now, thanks. The autism stuff is enlightening. _____________________________________________________ Sliced bread, the greatest thing since the 1911. | |||
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word is getting out. the gov created the diabesity epidemic. | |||
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Good stuff. I have done keto for about a year. I am attempting a little fasting and I am curious about going to the one meal a day WOE. I am just not sure I could eat that much in one meal. I am afraid I would undercut my calories and go into starvation mode. How do you guys that do one meal a day get er done? If it won't matter in 5 years don't give it more than 5 minutes. | |||
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I do 2 meals. Only on specific days do I stretch it. ----------------------------------------------------------- TCB all the time... | |||
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Yeah two works well. Still curious about the one though. If it won't matter in 5 years don't give it more than 5 minutes. | |||
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seems to me that consecutive omad tends to slow bmr, and mixing it up is the key - keeping the intermittent in fasting. my omads happen between 2 and 3 meal days, and works with weight drops (i'm in maintenance, at and maintaining goal weight). as with n=1 - some benefit from consecutive omads with no problems, and some see a stall [shrugs]. this is from Dr. Jason Fung's IDM email on OMAD: lots of info on fasting at Fung's IDM blog. | |||
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That’s great information. Thank you! Looks like a mixture would be good for me until I reach my most comfortable body feel. I say it that way because weight is not a good indicator on keto for me. I am not far off from it now. Then it will just be figuring out what works to maintain. If it won't matter in 5 years don't give it more than 5 minutes. | |||
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fasting, ketogenic diet(ing), low carb = autophagy. what? more info: How to renew your body: Fasting and autophagy 10-5-2016, By Dr. Jason Fung - - - Dr. Boz vid | |||
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Atkins was trying to tell everybody for decades to cutout the carbs, sugars, processed foods and crap from their diets. My blood sugar had gotten out of control and within 3 weeks of doing hard core low carb - 2 meals a day - it was back in the normal range. When I was a kid back in the 70s no kids were fat. There was only the odd kid out of a school of 2000 that was chunky. Now days fat kids are everywhere. The governments diet pyramid and the low fat/non-fat craze in the 80s and 90s took out all the fat, but it replaced it with sugar. Simple rule of thumb - If it comes in a box - don’t eat it. + | |||
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diabetic manual for the mutual use of doctor and patient by Joslin, Elliott Proctor, 1919 | |||
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The problem with Atkins was that with a lot of people, the protein component was not controlled. Unlimited protein can be converted to glucose through gluconeogenesis. Protein, while not near as restricted as carbs, still needs to be limited. It’s a pretty good amount but if you start replacing the carbs with too much protein, you aren’t accomplishing anything. You can spike glucose/insulin on too much protein. Keto operates on limiting insulin. ----------------------------------------------------------- TCB all the time... | |||
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Protein can go either way with insulin. If you eat protein with carbs, insulin will spike more than just for the carbs due to the combo of the 2. Protein without carbs doesn’t spike insulin. “People have to really suffer before they can risk doing what they love.” –Chuck Palahnuik Be harder to kill: https://preparefit.ck.page | |||
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Fasting doesn’t put your body into “starvation mode” well, until your bf gets so low you are starving. Fasting actually increases metabolism as shown in multiple studies. I did OMAD and ran 16 miles in a fasted state today just because it is how my day worked out. No energy issues. Don’t know or care how many calories my meal was, if it was low i sadly have plenty of fat to get more cals from! “People have to really suffer before they can risk doing what they love.” –Chuck Palahnuik Be harder to kill: https://preparefit.ck.page | |||
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The wife and I started keto 5 weeks ago. Thanks for posting this as it confirms a lot of what we're figuring out. It's been a revelation. I posted recently about how she'd get hangry with late meals and it doesn't happen any more. I'm going to try to introduce her to fasting next. | |||
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n=1 i started lchf with atkins induction (20g or < carbs a day) and didn't have a problem with protein. have not counted a calorie in my life. coupled with intermittent fasting and TRE (time-restriced eating), the fat (adipose) / lbs / inches melted away. from Fatty Liver Disease and Ketogenic Diets:
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awesome. a couple of invaluable forum resources: lowcarber lcneighborhood | |||
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Dr. Sarah Hallberg on the Beetus ----------------------------------------------------------- TCB all the time... | |||
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