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Originally posted by Butch 2340:
Get Both.

Please adopt me

I've never seen an agreed upon length or definition of carbine, except a shorter, or more compact rifle. What that means feels like it would be open to interpretation. I generally considered an M-4 a carbine and the M-16 a rifle.

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Originally posted by mlazarus:
I generally considered an M-4 a carbine and the M-16 a rifle.

Well, naturally... It's right there in their formal military designations, after all:

Rifle, Caliber 5.56mm, M(odel)16

Carbine, Caliber 5.56mm, M(odel)4


See my list on the earlier page for Carbines Model 1-3 and Rifles Model 1-14.


(For those wondering, the intervening M15 rifle is a squad automatic rifle version of the M14, with a bipod and heavy barrel, which was never fielded.)

Model 70 Carbines have 20" barrel. Regular length in the same calibre is 24"

Pre 64 of course