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A smug individual....

Move along nothing to see here.
 
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A smug individual....

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I wouldn't say he's smug.
Listen to some of Reeves and his people's interviews and reviews, they know what they are talking about. Not in a condescending tone, or "I know more than you" style.

However, I get it! Firearms Blog as the same as most other websites, needs to say on YouTube/Internet and remain relevant. It needs to get "X" amount of views/clicks/likes/subscribers in whatever time frame to sell advertisement. Sell ads = make money. Make money = eat, clothes, house, guns, ammo and other cool shit.


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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ace31:
However, I get it! Firearms Blog as the same as most other websites, needs to say on YouTube/Internet and remain relevant. It needs to get "X" amount of views/clicks/likes/subscribers in whatever time frame to sell advertisement. Sell ads = make money. Make money = eat, clothes, house, guns, ammo and other cool shit.


TFBTv is privately funded through SubscribeStar. They had to ditch Patreon because of the giveaways they offer to members offended the male feminists that run the platform. They don't get a dime on YouTube.
 
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I actually like James’s style. I might not agree with all of his positions, but I generally enjoy watching his stuff more than a lot of if not most of the other gun tubers out there. I think the key is to remember that it’s not just about “learning about guns,” but also about entertainment. There’s a reason why gun tubers that do more than just publish educational or even documentary content tend to have way more subscribers than those that are strongly fly 100% educational.




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I actually like James’s style. I might not agree with all of his positions, but I generally enjoy watching his stuff more than a lot of if not most of the other gun tubers out there. I think the key is to remember that it’s not just about “learning about guns,” but also about entertainment. There’s a reason why gun tubers that do more than just publish educational or even documentary content tend to have way more subscribers than those that are strongly fly 100% educational.


Agreed!

I enjoy these kinds of videos because even if you disagree with some of his points it at least makes you think about it. I agree with most of the stuff he said in this one, though. The one possible exception is the idea that the ergos of an AR are easier than the shotgun...I just spent a week training a lefty to shoot both of them, and the controls on a pump shotgun are much simpler, especially if you're wrong-handed. That said, the other advantages of the AR still make it a better choice for someone willing to put in the work and learn their gun.

I was actually in a situation last week where halfway through I wished I'd grabbed my shotgun instead of my AR. I still think the rifle was the right call...I didn't have all the information when I got out of the car that I had later on in the incident, and without that benefit of hindsight I'd make the same choice again. The versatility of the AR just makes it a better "general application" tool, while the shotgun fills more of a specific niche (close range situation with limited targets in an environment where you don't have to be super concerned about over-penetration). Thankfully we ended up not having a need to use either of them.
 
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I actually like James’s style. I might not agree with all of his positions, but I generally enjoy watching his stuff more than a lot of if not most of the other gun tubers out there. I think the key is to remember that it’s not just about “learning about guns,” but also about entertainment. There’s a reason why gun tubers that do more than just publish educational or even documentary content tend to have way more subscribers than those that are strongly fly 100% educational.


Agreed!

I enjoy these kinds of videos because even if you disagree with some of his points it at least makes you think about it. I agree with most of the stuff he said in this one, though. The one possible exception is the idea that the ergos of an AR are easier than the shotgun...I just spent a week training a lefty to shoot both of them, and the controls on a pump shotgun are much simpler, especially if you're wrong-handed. That said, the other advantages of the AR still make it a better choice for someone willing to put in the work and learn their gun.

I was actually in a situation last week where halfway through I wished I'd grabbed my shotgun instead of my AR. I still think the rifle was the right call...I didn't have all the information when I got out of the car that I had later on in the incident, and without that benefit of hindsight I'd make the same choice again. The versatility of the AR just makes it a better "general application" tool, while the shotgun fills more of a specific niche (close range situation with limited targets in an environment where you don't have to be super concerned about over-penetration). Thankfully we ended up not having a need to use either of them.



There are plenty of fully ambidextrous ARs on the market now. Some of them even offer left side ejection.
 
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The versatility of the AR just makes it a better "general application" tool ....

I believe that point addresses something that is overlooked in discussions about almost anything when there are choices to be made, but especially when talking about something like a defensive weapon.

If, for example, we think only about the possibility of confronting an intruder in our home, then virtually any decent firearm will serve as an effective defensive weapon, and a shotgun will be as good as anything and better than many alternatives—at least assuming the situation allows using a long gun and we’re proficient with its operation. If all that’s true then there’d be no reason for anything else.

But for someone like an LEO who could be faced with many different situations, a rifle like an AR would be far superior in many of those situations, and just as good as a shotgun in the vast majority.




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There are plenty of fully ambidextrous ARs on the market now. Some of them even offer left side ejection.


That only matters if you get to buy your own, which is not always the case. In our particular situation, the M400 has all ambi controls except for the bolt release, forward assist, and the ejection port is still on the right side.

I found that the ambi stuff was more confusing to her than anything...the redundant controls made the whole system more complex, and we spent a TON of time dry handling just to learn the gun. A lot of the ambi controls are not very well executed, either.

A.) the right-sided safety lever is smaller than the one on the left, and she couldn't reach it with her thumb so she ended up just wrapping her thumb and using the left side safety. As a righty with big hands, I personally hate the lever on the right side because it hits the side of my hand.

B.) the left-side ambi-mag release works off of a lever system, and is very stiff...much moreso than the the standard mag release button on the right side. She had a hard time operating it while maintaining a solid firing grip on the gun.

C.) the extended bolt catch is awkward and she kept mixing it up with the mag release. I've never liked it either, but figured that's just because I'm used to a standard bolt catch lever and when I'm operating it by feel I don't expect the extended lever. But it was interesting to see somebody with no prior experience or training struggle with it in the same way.

Based on my experience demoing everything left handed, and working through the issues with her, if I were a lefty and had the option to do so I'd buy or build a dedicated left handed gun rather than deal with all the ambi stuff.

Contrast all this to a shotgun, that has basically three controls: a safety, a trigger, and a slide release. All three of them are pretty easily operated with either hand, and everything happens right in front of your face under manual control instead of "automagically" inside the receivers. It's a pretty simple system overall.

All that said, I still think the AR is a better general purpose tool, it just takes more effort and time to become proficient with it.
 
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92fstech- I appreciate you taking the time to give your and your wife's experiences with ambi controls. I think your advice for a lefty to go full lefty AR warrants consideration.

As I became familiar with ARs, I saw some advice for rightys to have some ambi controls on their rifles. Some advise you might have to shoot lefty for some reason, so why not have ambi controls. I like to keep things simple, so I have not heeded that advice, and your experience with the imperfect function of ambi controls backs up this decision.
 
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Some advise you might have to shoot lefty for some reason, so why not have ambi controls.


I do practice shooting off the left shoulder quite a bit, but personally I find it easier to just use the right handed controls from the left side, because that's what I'm used to doing and everything is already where I expect it to be. Some of that may be because my personal rifles don't have ambi controls so I just learned to work with what I have over the years...it also may be that I'm just simple-minded and can only do a thing well one way, lol.

I'm sure I could train myself to the point where using the extra controls is second nature if I put the time into it, but I don't see the value when the other way is working for me and most of my gear isn't set up to support it anyway. I did want to teach her to our issued platform, though, so it was definitely eye-opening to demonstrate and explain everything backwards all week while using all the ambi controls.
 
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92fstech- I appreciate you taking the time to give your and your wife's experiences with ambi controls. I think your advice for a lefty to go full lefty AR warrants consideration.

As I became familiar with ARs, I saw some advice for rightys to have some ambi controls on their rifles. Some advise you might have to shoot lefty for some reason, so why not have ambi controls. I like to keep things simple, so I have not heeded that advice, and your experience with the imperfect function of ambi controls backs up this decision.


I’m a lefty and the only mods I make to my ARs are an ambi safety and an ambi charging handle. I can deal with the bolt release and mag release as they come standard.

Most of us lefty’s do fairly well with right handed firearms, even pistols. I can drop a slide or a mag on most brands with my left index finger reliably and without issue. Where the problem usually comes in for us is on thumb operated stuff - like safeties. I can’t run a 1911 or an AR very well without an ambi safety on those platforms.
 
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Shotguns really are the ONLY option for the man who likes low capacity, extremely slow reload times, high recoil and limited range.
 
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