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Green Mountain Boy
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Absolute. On my AR the sights are high enough as it is and I have flip down buis or none at all.


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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
It's nice to have the less-cluttered sight picture that comes with using a red dot and folded-down irons but ....


I agree, and admit I didn’t understand what you were getting at.
My “CQB” ARs (training and serious) both have fixed front sights and with a 1/3 view I have never had any problem using them with Aimpoint sights as fast as I could acquire targets. As I mentioned above, I am simply unaware of the iron sights.

And as a somewhat related note, something I have my students practice is using their nonmagnifying optics (Aimpoints, EOTechs, et al.) with the illuminated reticle turned off and no rear BUIS. I just center the target in the “window,” but some shooters like to use the visible front sight (without the rear) as an index even without a rear sight to align it with. With both techniques it’s possible to get reasonably accurate hits on short range targets (to about 15 yards).




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Update:
Bought a Holosun HS503GU and just finished mounting it 1/3.

That's how it came set up, and it does seem like a good way to go now that I've looked through it that way. It did come with a low mount, and a battery as well, in case anyone was wondering.

Hope things shoot straight, still need to find out.

Thanks for the responses.
 
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Tried both and have settled on lower 1/3.
 
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For me it depends on the ARs set up.
I prefer lower 1/3 for ARs with a fixed front sight & absolute with BUIS odd as that may sound.




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Bump.




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Posts: 8393 | Location: West | Registered: November 26, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I like true co-witness. If all goes wrong the red dot becomes a giant ghost ring.

That being said I am no gunfighter nor girlscout and have no desire to run my guns as weapons ever. This is just a low speed, high drag hobbiest's perspective.


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Just don't do what I did, Trijicon MRO and Micro BUIS, the BUIS are 1/2 on, 1/2 under the optic. I can barely see the top nub of the front sight post through the rear aperture and optic.


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Posts: 6555 | Location: S.W. Virginia | Registered: March 18, 2011Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Originally posted by GrumpyBiker:
For me it depends on the ARs set up.
I prefer lower 1/3 for ARs with a fixed front sight & absolute with BUIS odd as that may sound.


Not odd at all. Quite reasonable.
 
Posts: 5244 | Location: Colorado Springs | Registered: April 12, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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IF running a AR with a permanent front sight post/gas block, i prefer 1/3. If running flip up sights, back and front i like absolute.


Edit: i see Grumpy feels the same, had not read his post before posting or would have just said same.


 
Posts: 6727 | Location: Charlotte, NC | Registered: November 09, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Irons are fixed height. I'm only varying the RDS mount height. The lower 1/3 mount is more comfortable for me. Absolute feels low for my chubby cheeks.

Either way, I don't see the front sight as I'm looking well past it. So 1/3 is more comfortable and that's the primary influence.




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Originally posted by GrumpyBiker:
For me it depends on the ARs set up.
I prefer lower 1/3 for ARs with a fixed front sight & absolute with BUIS odd as that may sound.

Not odd at all, that is my preferred setup also




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Posts: 14271 | Location: northern california | Registered: February 07, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I went back and forth but ended up with 1/3 with a standard front sight post and DD A1.5 rear sight.

I really liked the absolute, but what got me back to 1/3 was shooting in the dark and especially off hand. For me, it was easier to shoot offhand with the higher mount of 1/3, especially around a barrier/wall.




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Posts: 8393 | Location: West | Registered: November 26, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Absolute with folding front/rear sights.
 
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Not sure I mentioned this before, lower 1/3rd works better with a squared up, heads up, CQB style fighting stance.

The iron sight height is a little low for that IMO, but just right for prone shooting.




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I personally prefer absolute with folding sights so you can get a good cheekweld on the stock, as opposed to the chinweld you get with a lower 1/3rd mount.
 
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