Why now?
There is no threat of things getting banned ...
... and besides, prices are artificially deflated!

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The shooting range was packed, line waiting for empty lanes

that's been the norm for the past for some time. Go in the middle of the week and you walk right in.

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Originally posted by kimberkid:
Why now?
There is no threat of things getting banned ...
... and besides, prices are artificially deflated!

Having panic bought a VEPR recently, I would urge all to heed this. Fortunately, prices for items on GB when the panic started didn't catch up with the panic prices elsewhere for a few days.

And don't forget ammo, either!

If it weren't for my lack of employment, I would be spending a lot of money at PSA. Their daily e-mails on rifle deals are just amazing. Vortex and 10 PMAGS for $170?

Ammo, besides .22lr, is as cheap as I remember seeing it.

Are reloading supplies/component prices down as well?

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Originally posted by kimberkid:
Why now?
There is no threat of things getting banned ...
... and besides, prices are artificially deflated!

Yep. Hoping and praying things stay this way through November, when I'll have funds freed up for some longtime purchases and the holiday sales start cropping up.

I think this holiday season will be everybody's big push. Clear out all the remaining pre-election stock, get your losses deducted on this year's tax returns, drive on. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see prices begin to rebound following New Year's. This can't last forever.

Wondering what the gun shops will look like, this morning.
Probably the usual response.

Bruce

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Originally posted by RNshooter:
Wondering what the gun shops will look like, this morning.
Probably the usual response.

Bruce

no change today,

give it a few days for the political rhetoric to ramp up, or down, and see

If it is any indication, shares of S&W and Ruger were up by as much as 5 points this morning.

Holy huge avatar shootin blanks. Resize that thing.

I was at Cabelas in West Chester today.

No rush there, the shelves were fully stocked with firearms and ammo.

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Originally posted by RNshooter:
Wondering what the gun shops will look like, this morning.
Probably the usual response.

Bruce

I’m sitting and waiting for my bg check to clear and it takes longer than usual but the store is quite empty and the guys are saying that while they did sell a few ARs more than on a regular day but nothing crazy.

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Originally posted by BRL:
Holy huge avatar shootin blanks. Resize that thing.

Wow. 5,248 x 2,952. [DON_ADAMS]That's the second biggest avatar pic I've ever seen![/DON_ADAMS]

Heard bumpfire stock are being bought up, I ordered an echo trigger and the guy said that was very popular today.

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Originally posted by Beanhead:
Heard bumpfire stock are being bought up, I ordered an echo trigger and the guy said that was very popular today.

I think that one thing can be said for sure, regardless of if any of the recent shooting perpetrator's other guns were modified in a different way or if they were grandfathered pre 86 full auto, it is safe to say that Slidefire and other similar bump stock or other trigger manipulation devices are not going to be legal for much longer. In the quest for some's desire to get around and skirt the law regarding burst and full auto capability, these unregulated products were a problem just waiting to happen. None of them are going to survive this and IMHO, good riddance. I support the vast majority of firearms related products out there, but have never supported any of these.

Anyone buying these devices up are very likely wasting their money as no shooting range or organized venue is going to allow you to use them, likely even before the government does anything on this in a legislative capacity.
Using them out in the open somewhere or even private property somewhere remote, will just bring immediate attention to yourself. Difficult to say if they will just make them illegal to install/use, or to even own / possess though.

I don't like the idea of anything that is currently legal being banned, but I won't lose any sleep over not having a bump fire stock. They have always seemed like something that is a novelty to use once or twice, but completely impractical. And as mentioned,using one will get you thrown out of most gun ranges and clubs.

None of that stuff (bumpfire, echo trigger, binary trigger, whatever) has ever been anything I've been interested in owning (though if I lived in a free state I'd probably be interested in some NFA toys), but I'm not a fan of more regulation. It is kinda like the whole Sig brace thing. Don't have one, not looking for one, but hate to see all the regulatory thrash on them.

I'd really love it if we ever evolved to the point of holding *people* responsible for *their* actions rather than seeking to ban items (tools, toys, whatever) because someone might misuse them. Not holding my breath though...

I've got a couple FA's and have thought a couple times about picking up a slide-fire just to see for myself how they compare ... or if there actually is any kind of a real comparison or if it's a noisey waste of money ammo.

We already knew they would spray but other than terrorizing a crowd their effectiveness is questionable ... All those people and all those rounds fired and only 59 killed ... Not to minimilize it but it could have been much worse.

Now we can only pray the media doesn't beat this ratings grum and drive some other wacko to do try to do "better".

I am typically not about banning firearms related products either, but it is clear where the law stands on full auto and burst fire capability for civilians. Some people thought it would be a good idea and the making of a quick buck to try and skirt the law, to the detriment of most gun owners and sadly for the victims in Las Vegas. Please don't take this to mean that I blame anyone or anything but the shooter for the evil act though. I don't agree with it being a quick, knee jerk reaction or about it being pushed through simply for the sake of passing something. I personally would gladly give up all the bump stock, multi-fire triggers, and trigger manipulation devices while removing the restrictions on suppressors and / or SBRs as a compromise.

Either pony up for the tax stamp, extreme cost, and the process involved of owning a pre 86 full auto or be content with owning a semi-auto rifle for all the reasons and rights that we do. The ability of rifles to be modified without the use of the afore mentioned products is irrellevant and is at least more challenging than simply installing an off the shelf product intended to get around the law. That's the way I see it. Having fired a full auto M4 configuration AR, I can personally say that the novelty wears off quickly and the daily or even occasional use would be both cost prohibitive and not at all attractive to me and I suspect most of my fellow gun owners. There are venues/ranges you can go to to scratch that itch if you really need to without having to buy or own one, if you really want to have the experience.

I'm wondering if there has been an uptick in EBR sales since the media has again taken up the call for banning them.
Has anyone noticed any at their LGS?

Bruce

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Originally posted by Dtech:
Some people thought it would be a good idea and the making of a quick buck to try and skirt the law, to the detriment of most gun owners and sadly for the victims in Las Vegas.

How in the ever-lovin’, blue-eyed world is that not attaching the blame to “some people” other than the murderer? There was no skirting the law: The ATF has exercised their authority to implement many restrictive rules on nothing more than bureaucratic whim, so if they said that the devices are legal, they are legal. And as for the victims, how do you know that there wouldn’t have been more casualties if the killer had used aimed fire rather than indiscriminate spraying? That would certainly have been true if many of the people I know personally had been the shooter.

Even gun rights advocates who should know better than to assume that the gun-grabbing sharks will be satisfied with a toe, a knee, or a leg; they want it all. If we needed further proof, look at this latest incident. There were no slide fire stocks involved, but this is by far the strongest antigun effort in many years. And if we believe that’s because the murderer used an AR-15 rather than an AK, Mini 14, CZ Scorpion, M1A, Glock, or countless other guns, we are sadly deluding ourselves. They don’t want us to have any guns—none whatsoever. Period.