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Finally added a CZ Bren S1 (or two) to my collection
February 12, 2023, 07:07 PM
PGTFinally added a CZ Bren S1 (or two) to my collection
I wanted one back in the day but the lower pic rail and non-US barrel threaded turned me off before the price (which was like double a Colt 6920 at the time). Once I realized I wanted one, prices had gotten nutty.
About two weeks ago, a guy on Arfcom had a NOS Manticore MLOK hg for sale which I had not known was a thing. Figured I'd snag it in case I ever found a rifle at a decent price (I had passed on a black rifle from a friend for a really good price because I wanted an FDE one...a mutual friend's dad bought it). Figured if I never found one, I'd offer to my other buddy's dad who goes on gun runs with us for collectibles.
Apparently the guy selling the HG had given up finding a rifle. That same morning, I found one listed on GB with a Steiner 3x optic for a BIN or Make Offer deal; made a low-ball offer taking into account the value of the optic plus total delivered price w/ taxes etc. I randomly checked Guns.com for one and low and behold, an FDE one. *bangs head*

. It was a great price and had the original sights too (the black one did not) so I grabbed it.
A day later, sho'nuff....dude accepted my lowball offer on the black one. Luckily, I had a set of iron sights from a Bren 2 Carbine I had sold to a friend (I also have a 14" Bren 2 p/w with DA suppressor on it). Anyways, enough of the back story....N+1 is life so now I'm covered lol. Both are 1/2-28 rifles and I also ordered some KNS stuff for them...oversized charging handles and keymod lower replacement rail (no need for keymod but will be less annoying than a pic rail on the bottom).
Manticore mlok handguard
February 12, 2023, 07:50 PM
MikeGLIVery nice. I looked at the Bren 2s but I struggle with the waffle looking magwell.
These are both very attractive, nice pick up(s).
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Steak: Rare. Coffee: Black. Bourbon: Neat. February 12, 2023, 08:03 PM
PGTHaga Defense has an alloy lower for the Bren 2's...but it uses AR15 parts to include the grip. I happen to like the factory lower, aesthetics aside
February 13, 2023, 08:16 AM
P250UA5Very nice, looks much more SCAR like, than AR15.
The Enemy's gate is down. February 13, 2023, 08:33 AM
PGTModular design like flowed from the SCAR requirements and AR18 operating design (short piston, gas action with integral recoil assly)
February 13, 2023, 10:02 AM
P220 SmudgeVery nice! Looking forward to the range report. CZ makes a fine rifle, love my Bren 2. I also had no idea Manticore made an Mlok handguard for the 805.
There was a guy on a Washington forum who had one listed for sale early last year in a 14" for $1,300 - the whole kit with a brace and a stock, so just add paper. Really should have just jumped on that one.
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Originally posted by PGT:
I also have a 14" Bren 2 p/w with DA suppressor on it.
Post it up!
I've actually been thinking pretty hard about grabbing a 14" and doing the P/W. Love the gun in an 11" and wouldn't mind having a second that I don't have to paper. 14" would give a little more zing.
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Originally posted by MikeGLI:
Very nice. I looked at the Bren 2s but I struggle with the waffle looking magwell.
Me too, at first. Felt that way about the factory stocks as well. I got used to it pretty quickly, though. Now I think the odd patterns are kind of charming in their way.
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Originally posted by PGT:
Haga Defense has an alloy lower for the Bren 2's...but it uses AR15 parts to include the grip. I happen to like the factory lower, aesthetics aside
He also made two versions of polymer lowers. I have, I think, the first version. Haven't done anything with it yet, either. I want to build it up complete with it's own parts and not migrate everything from the stock lower, but the thing holding me back is a takedown pin. KNS lists one on their site, but they haven't been in stock in a long time. Without that, there's no point adding anything to it. I need to email HBI and ask if they're willing to do it. Hell, I'll loan them mine to duplicate.
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February 13, 2023, 10:31 AM
P250UA5Looked it up on the CZ site.
MSRP =
The Enemy's gate is down. February 13, 2023, 10:37 AM
P220 SmudgeI dunno what PGT paid, but I'm routinely seeing used examples pop up for about $1,500 at about the median, with $1,100 being the cheapest I've seen. If you want a Bren of either flavor, there's no guarantee they'll keep importing them. Once that stops, the used market is going to go up, probably a fair bit.
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February 13, 2023, 10:50 AM
PGTI've never seen a Bren for sale less than $1500. Typically, they're $1500-2300 or so, depending on venue. The FDE Bren S1's were going for $3k+ a year or more ago but have settled considerably.
February 13, 2023, 11:11 AM
P250UA5Same reason I have 2 ARs in my safe.
I've never handled a SCAR or Bren, so no fever here, and no empty-wallet syndrome

The Enemy's gate is down. February 13, 2023, 12:53 PM
P220 Smudgequote:
Originally posted by PGT:
I've never seen a Bren for sale less than $1500. Typically, they're $1500-2300 or so, depending on venue.
The one I saw that cheap had HBI everything and was painted. So, no collector value, but a great deal on a shooter.
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