somebody knows who to disassembly the decocker of the sphinx sdp?

somebody knows who to disassembly completely the sphinx sdp?

I kinda got lost in the whole Super V area... Here is a good place to get your info.

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Originally posted by .38supersig:
Here is a good place to get your info.

I have to disagree with you. I have not found honest information anywhere from Kriss.

MP

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Originally posted by MusProd:

I have to disagree with you. I have not found honest information anywhere from Kriss.

Fair enough. Once I had contacted them about the difference between a Gen1 and Gen2 CRB. They said the trigger was reworked and the Gen2 no longer allows for a light/laser in the chassis. Couldn't really get an answer why it was changed and the adapter is now discontinued. Now the Gen2 has a big logo on the front. I can't say that I like billboards on firearms...

What is the latest status of these guns? Gunbroker lists a few of them for sale, are these still Swiss guns, or are they US made? Is there a way to distinguish between US and Swiss made guns?

That's a good question I've been wondering. I have not heard a peep. The Swiss versions are marked Switzerland. I'd imagine if Kriss was going to take over, move production to the US, or bought out Sphinx entirely it would still be awhile before they were able to get everything approved, shipped, and setup in the US. I'd love to hear some inside skinny on the status and plans.

10X, as you might know, I have a very low opinion of Kriss/Sphinx as a company. The Swiss made pistols are terrific, but the company leaves much to be desired.

Should you find anything out, please post it here.

Many thanks,
MP

My Swiss made SDP compact has been perfect.

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Originally posted by MusProd:
10X, as you might know, I have a very low opinion of Kriss/Sphinx as a company. The Swiss made pistols are terrific, but the company leaves much to be desired.

Should you find anything out, please post it here.

Many thanks,
MP

I'm in total agreement. My experience with Kriss was less than desirable but I kept the Subcompact and fixed the issue myself. So now, I love the pistol and wonder what is going to end up happening. I'm glad I got 7-8 mags when I got the Subcompact. I'll be surprised if Kriss can get their stuff together to make something of anything. If I hear anything I'll certainly pass it along.

I like all three of my Sphinx pistols. Two of them don't like 147gr jhp ammo, but then neither do some of my CZs.

Even if there was no support, I wouldn't hesitate buying one of these guns. Not really worried about any parts simply because how well built they are, but also there are enough people in the aftermarket industry that can work on them and make some parts if necessary.

As far as I can tell, all guns I've seen available are still "Made in Switzerland" marked. Not sure of the status of US manufactured ones. Subcompacts have dried up, and of course, the Duotones haven't been seen in a while. Not sure what's going on, but there doesn't seem to be any shortage of Compacts and Duty Compacts.

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Originally posted by tundrav84wd:
Even if there was no support, I wouldn't hesitate buying one of these guns. Not really worried about any parts simply because how well built they are, but also there are enough people in the aftermarket industry that can work on them and make some parts if necessary.

As far as I can tell, all guns I've seen available are still "Made in Switzerland" marked. Not sure of the status of US manufactured ones. Subcompacts have dried up, and of course, the Duotones haven't been seen in a while. Not sure what's going on, but there doesn't seem to be any shortage of Compacts and Duty Compacts.

You are much more forgiving, and certainly much saner than I am. I have a very difficult time owning my Subcompact as I did my DuoTone. I sold the DuoTone to another Sigfourum member, and I know he was pleased with his purchase. I hope that he still enjoys the devil out of the pistol. The DuoTone is just that good.

My Subcompact is a terrific pistol as well, but with my less than stellar eye sight the lack of night sights is an issue. Kriss/Sphinx magnified my issue over the past couple of years by first displaying HALO sights then never selling them in the USA, then going totally non-responsive to customer inquiries, and now, through their Facebook, page making sounds that they are working with a 3rd party(ies?) on a possible solution.

The Subcompact is excellent, yet I would sell it immediately if I could get my money out of it. To sell it it below what I paid for it, would make me feel that Sphinx somehow "won". Not too rational, I know. I have a very nice P239 and its night sights make it usable if ever needed in poor lighting condition.

My original pride of ownership turned negative long ago. I've said it before, but again, the engineering and manufacturing is outstanding, but, in my thinking, is betrayed by the company's business practices.

MP

Does anyone here on SF have any idea how many Duotones made it into the Country?

I've been debating on picking up a subcompact for a while now. Instead I bought P320C to fill that void, and have regretted it ever since.

Then I read through this thread and I'm extremely hesitant about picking up the SDP subcompact. So many horror stories about the subcompact, it seems like a hit or miss on a $800 gun. uhhhh

I love my Swiss-made Subcompact. Extremely reliable. You don't see many of them for sale. I think people are hanging on to them.

The recent activity on this thread has jostled me enough to see if anyone wants my Subcompact, so I will post it in the Classifieds.

Maybe someone will find the pistol they are looking for and I will monetize an irritant to me.

MP

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Originally posted by goforbroke:
I've been debating on picking up a subcompact for a while now. Instead I bought P320C to fill that void, and have regretted it ever since.

Then I read through this thread and I'm extremely hesitant about picking up the SDP subcompact. So many horror stories about the subcompact, it seems like a hit or miss on a $800 gun. uhhhh

I'm another dissatisfied customer. The pistol (Subcompact Alpha) is very well made, but my sights are not properly regulated for elevation and despite their advertising, no tritium night sights have been made available for customers. Neither the Swiss factory nor Kriss has shown any inclination to even respond to customer complaints. They are absolutely the worst company I've ever done business with.

Beyond the above, few holster makers have obtained molds for the subcompacts, the notable exception being SF member Ryan Grizzle (aka: Country Boy). If you need a good holster for your SDP Subcompact, he's your man!!! http://www.rgrizzleleather.com/

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Originally posted by MusProd:

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Originally posted by tundrav84wd:
Even if there was no support, I wouldn't hesitate buying one of these guns. Not really worried about any parts simply because how well built they are, but also there are enough people in the aftermarket industry that can work on them and make some parts if necessary.

As far as I can tell, all guns I've seen available are still "Made in Switzerland" marked. Not sure of the status of US manufactured ones. Subcompacts have dried up, and of course, the Duotones haven't been seen in a while. Not sure what's going on, but there doesn't seem to be any shortage of Compacts and Duty Compacts.

You are much more forgiving, and certainly much saner than I am. I have a very difficult time owning my Subcompact as I did my DuoTone. I sold the DuoTone to another Sigfourum member, and I know he was pleased with his purchase. I hope that he still enjoys the devil out of the pistol. The DuoTone is just that good.

My Subcompact is a terrific pistol as well, but with my less than stellar eye sight the lack of night sights is an issue. Kriss/Sphinx magnified my issue over the past couple of years by first displaying HALO sights then never selling them in the USA, then going totally non-responsive to customer inquiries, and now, through their Facebook, page making sounds that they are working with a 3rd party(ies?) on a possible solution.

The Subcompact is excellent, yet I would sell it immediately if I could get my money out of it. To sell it it below what I paid for it, would make me feel that Sphinx somehow "won". Not too rational, I know. I have a very nice P239 and its night sights make it usable if ever needed in poor lighting condition.

My original pride of ownership turned negative long ago. I've said it before, but again, the engineering and manufacturing is outstanding, but, in my thinking, is betrayed by the company's business practices.

MP

I understand where you are coming from, believe me. I always remember that KRISS is not Sphinx. They may own them now, and still import them, but as far as I'm aware, the guns are still Swiss made. The reason I said what I did, concerning even if there was no support is reflected somewhat in this video. No MIM parts at all in these guns, even at the lower price point than a lot of other metal guns. The heritage from the 2000 and 3000 series guns is definitely there. The owner of the 3000 series gun in this video said he quit counting rounds through the gun at 120,000. Finally changed the recoil spring at 75,000 rounds,...not because of any problems, but because he felt maybe it was about time. I have no doubt the guns will last a long time, and well beyond what most would ever put through them. It is the only gun I feel comfortable enough to say what I did. It's a good video with someone most here are familiar with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoslsVTT1g

I have three Sphinx pistols - the SDP, Subcompact, and the SDP with the 17-round capacity (sort of like a semi-compact). The only issue I have had is ammunition related - the SDP 17-rounder and the subcompact don't like certain ammo. With a little polishing on the subcompact's chamber, that has largely been resolved - although it still doesn't like 147gr HP of certain manufacturers. Then again a couple of my CZs don't like 147gr HPs either. I have had no issues with 115gr HP or 124gr HP or RN (except for some Tula 115gr RN in the subcompact).
There appears to be some variation in the chambers of these three pistols. The subcompact will lockup on the 147gr HP and the drop test shows the bullets won't fully chamber in it. The newest SDP 17-rounder wouldn't pass the drop test with FM 147gr HP, but Remington Golden Saber 147gr are fine - must be overall bullet shape. However, my regular SDP eats them up. I have been carrying the subcompact loaded with 124gr. XTP HPs which it gobbles up all day long. When the weather turns colder, I will return to carrying the 17 + 1 capacity "semi-compact" Sphinx with 147gr XTP HPs ( I swapped uppers with the regular SDP). All three pistols are very accurate and I can shoot all of them with at least the same or similar accuracy of my SP01 Shadow which is capable of 1.3" 5-shot groups at 25 yards (bench rest on a rare day when eyes are decent). I would love to have a mechanical fixture to determine the actual mechanical accuracy of all my pistols.
I guess the point I'm trying to make is that the ammunition being used has a dramatic effect and any gun that doesn't like certain ammo can be tweaked with polishing or machining the chamber - or don't use that ammo. I'm thinking the guns were designed with 124gr NATO ammunition in mind and I imagine all their factory testing was done using this type of ammo. Just my experiences and thoughts - YMMV.

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Originally posted by pulicords:

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Originally posted by goforbroke:
I've been debating on picking up a subcompact for a while now. Instead I bought P320C to fill that void, and have regretted it ever since.

Then I read through this thread and I'm extremely hesitant about picking up the SDP subcompact. So many horror stories about the subcompact, it seems like a hit or miss on a $800 gun. uhhhh

I'm another dissatisfied customer. The pistol (Subcompact Alpha) is very well made, but my sights are not properly regulated for elevation and despite their advertising, no tritium night sights have been made available for customers. Neither the Swiss factory nor Kriss has shown any inclination to even respond to customer complaints. They are absolutely the worst company I've ever done business with.

Beyond the above, few holster makers have obtained molds for the subcompacts, the notable exception being SF member Ryan Grizzle (aka: Country Boy). If you need a good holster for your SDP Subcompact, he's your man!!! http://www.rgrizzleleather.com/

This is exactly the kind of feedback that worries me. I REALLY like the features and allure of the subcompact but the possible barrel issue rubs me the wrong way on a $800 gun. Also like you I prefer night sights as well.
It's also interesting with the terrible customer service. Not something I would expect from a higher end brand, but I guess it happens everyday to the best of us.