quote:

Originally posted by RX-79G:
And I'll bet they all use that same P320 graphic in them.

The graphic is of a P250.



In the old Classic P-Series Manual, the graphic was clearly of a first generation P250.

I have become privy to, but am not in a position to release, some information on this subject that will likely put a quick end to the panic.

What I can tell you is to click on the YouTube link to the infamous P320 drop-fire video and see what happens.

[QUOTE]Well I have been off the web for a couple of days. I am a DPD Officer and carried the 320. So here is what I know and I am more in the know than some.

First the email banning the 320 was issued at 4:06 pm on a Friday. We were allowed to carry the gun until Monday morning at 8 am. There were no command staff, range master or sig reps to explain the problem. We were all treated as if we should already know what was wrong with the 320.

At the heart of the problem is the Sig manual saying it may fire if dropped. We have had no AD/ND's with the 320. Only 54 of us were carrying them as duty weapons.

The video(s) on the internet did play a roll in the weapon being deemed unsafe.

There is a rumor that DPD did a drop test and the trigger needed to be reset. I know all of the range staff and I can get none of them to confirm this happened.

Finally Sig's complete and utter lack of response has let this get out of control. Sig should have sent a team of experts from their HQ's and immediately meet with our range staff to calm any fears they have about this pistol.

I am completely gutted not being able to carry my 320. This can all be fixed by Sig and the ball is in their court and they have chosen to do nothing.

All I want is my damn 320 back[QUOTE]

This was sourced from another website and was posted with today's date (8-3-17). This sounds like the absolute best info we have on the matter so far IMHO.

quote:

Originally posted by rscalzo:
Very odd that when the same agency had issues with their newly issued M&P in 2014, it made the local newspapers. Yet this seems to be only internet lore.

Not the same Agency. The S&W M&P issue you refer to involved the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS) not the Dallas Police Department.

Sigforever, you just need a forward slash on your second quote tag, i.e. [/QUOTE].

So, we should be expecting DPD to quietly walk this back very soon. And no doubt promote someone......

I find this comical, again if this is to be true, that during the evaluation and acceptance process, no one in DPD had read the manual and seen that huge graphic along with its bold big font warning in the manual.

[In Spongebob timecard voice] Several days later...

quote:

Not the same Agency.

Ok, got it.

But when NJ claimed an issue, huge media splash. This incident involved the media. Yet Dallas...not a peep?????

I have yet to see anything official from that agency. If they are removing it from their approved list, then there are documents stating such.

Guns can go off if dropped. This Federal agent found out but he helped it along.


Same thing happened in my town years ago.

http://www.fox35orlando.com/ne...news/271290892-story

quote:

Originally posted by kkina:
Sigforever, you just need a forward slash on your second quote tag, i.e.

. [/QUOTE]

Thanks for the heads up. Been trying to figure out why it didn't work.

TTAG has a SIG press release. Not sure from where, as I didn't see it on SIGs site or Facebook. Maybe emailed? I dunno.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.c...d-pistols-drop-safe/

Here's the plain text version:

PR Contact:
Jordan Hunter
SIG SAUER, Inc.
603-610-3293
jordan.hunter@sigsauer.com

SIG SAUER Reaffirms Safety of P320 Pistol

Striker-fired pistol exceeds safety standards of ANSI/SAAMI® and U.S. military testing

Newington, NH (August 4, 2017) – In response to social media rumors questioning the safety of the P320 pistol, a variant of which was selected by the U.S. government as the U.S. Army’s Modular Handgun System (MHS), SIG SAUER, Inc. has full confidence in the reliability, durability and safety of its striker-fired handgun platform. There have been zero (0) reported drop-related P320 incidents in the U.S. commercial market, with hundreds of thousands of guns delivered to date.

The P320 meets and exceeds all U.S. standards for safety, including the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) and Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers’ Institute, Inc. (SAAMI), as well as rigorous testing protocols for global military and law enforcement agencies.

All SIG SAUER pistols incorporate effective mechanical safeties to ensure they only fire when the trigger is pressed. However, like any mechanical device, exposure to acute conditions (e.g. shock, vibration, heavy or repeated drops) may have a negative effect on these safety mechanisms and cause them to not work as designed. This language is common to owner’s manuals of major handgun manufacturers.

As a result, individual attempts to perform drop tests outside of professionally controlled environments should not be attempted.

“SIG SAUER is committed to producing only the finest products,” said Ron Cohen, President and CEO of SIG SAUER. “Safety and reliability have been and always will be paramount to the SIG SAUER brand.”

For more information on SIG SAUER, please visit us at sigsauer.com.

Follow SIG SAUER on social media, including Facebook at facebook.com/sigsauerinc, Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/sigsauerinc/, and YouTube at youtube.com/user/sigsauerinc.

SIG SAUER, Inc.

SIG SAUER, Inc. is The Complete Systems Provider™, leading the industry in American innovation, ingenuity, and manufacturing. SIG SAUER® brings a dedication to superior quality, ultimate reliability, and unmatched performance that has made it the brand of choice among many of the world’s elite military, government and law enforcement units as well as responsible citizens. SIG SAUER offers a full array of products to meet any mission parameter, including handguns, rifles, ammunition, electro-optics, suppressors, ASP (Advanced Sport Pellet) airguns and training. The largest member of a worldwide business group of firearms manufacturers that includes SIG SAUER GmbH & Co. KG in Germany and Swiss Arms AG in Switzerland, SIG SAUER is an ISO 9001: 2008 certified company with more than 1,600 employees. For more information on SIG SAUER, any of its products, or the SIG SAUER AcademySM, please visit on to sigsauer.com.

quote:

Originally posted by sigforever:
...
The video(s) on the internet did play a roll in the weapon being deemed unsafe.

There is a rumor that DPD did a drop test and the trigger needed to be reset. I know all of the range staff and I can get none of them to confirm this happened.
...

Did the trigger need to be reset or did the striker need to be reset? If only the striker needed to be reset that does not mean the pistol failed a drop test absent a blank in the gun or some other mechanism to see if the firing pin actually protruded from the breech face.
In order for the P320 to fire, two things have to happen.
(1) The striker has to be released from the sear. This could happen with or without the trigger moving.
(2) The striker safety has to be disengaged or the striker will be stopped before it travels far enough to fire. This could theoretically happen without the trigger moving, but I think it would be a one in a million thing.

I know for a fact there was a discharge of a Smith and Wesson M&P when it was dropped on the deck of a Navy ship.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
Oh, that was in 1940 and prompted Smith and Wesson to include a transfer bar drop safety in all subsequent M&P...

.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
revolvers.

First who is the <bkeep> reads GunMagazineWarehouse.com ?

Tactical-Life has confirmed that the whole thing is BS, so all the tin foil hat h8ters can suck it.

http://www.tactical-life.com/n...allas-pd/#sig-p320-2

quote:

Originally posted by bossgvr4:
First who is the <bkeep> reads GunMagazineWarehouse.com ?

Tactical-Life has confirmed that the whole thing is BS, so all the tin foil hat h8ters can suck it.

http://www.tactical-life.com/n...allas-pd/#sig-p320-2

And the misinformation continues. The whole thing is not BS.

"Taking the necessary precautions with the older manual, the lieutenant temporarily suspended use of the P320 until Dallas PD could get in touch with Sig Sauer to clarify the issue."

They have suspended use of the P320.

quote:

Originally posted by grumpy1:
On another forum they claim this is real and someone who says he works for DFW PD made the original post. Yet on a different forum at least one member contacted someone who he said would know about it and that person said he knew nothing about it.

[url=https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?

27008-P320-drop-safety-quot-issues-quot]https://pistol-forum.com/showt...ety-quot-issues-quot[/url]

Dallas and Ft. Worth are two completely separate police departments. No DFW PD.

quote:

Originally posted by JBnTX:
It's nothing more than a rumor started by some idiot internet troll.

The P320 will NOT fire if it's dropped, unless there's something wrong with it.

I seriously doubt there's something wrong with every P320 that Dallas PD owns.


The trolls, the internet commando wannabes and the "Navy SEAL" impostors are out in full force against this fine pistol.

Ignore ALL of them.

Dallas PD does not own any P320's. They are authorized for purchase by officers.

quote:

Originally posted by Trendar5:
Dallas and Ft. Worth are two completely separate police departments. No DFW PD.

The only DFW PD is the DFW Airport PD.

Now, ladies and gentlemen, we are in the "picking fly shit from pepper" phase.

The "recall", as predicted pages ago, was a whole lot of nothing. Except a good excuse for the haters to throw in their "lowbidderlowbidderlowbidderlowbidder" stuff.