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I've tried numerous small nines looking for a nice shooting reliable gun in a small package. The 365 has exceeded my expectations. I carry it almost exclusively, my 228 doesn't see the light of day as much.
 
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Check around for the 365 tac pac
It's a regular 365 with 3 12 rd mags. It was $50 cheaper than the XL . And the 12rd mags are 50 each if you can get them . Making it even better deal .


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The P365 did have an early striker issue with a small number failing, they were replaced under warranty. Then the striker primer marking came up, and it was discovered to be industry wide and existed on other designs dating decades older. For those who stuck with the subject longer than a headline, owners of older guns starting looking and found their guns were doing it all along. They never even knew, and with the thousands of rounds thru them, never had a problem either.

As for that being a rocky start, the Ruger LCP was recalled en masse over an owner shooting his TV in his bedroom while (mis)handling the gun, the R51 was completely dropped from the market over machining issues. Early Keltec .380s that Ruger blatantly copied invented the term "fluff and buff" to clean up the feed ramps and fix FTF or FTE. Not to forget Taurus which earned a reputation for quality almost as low as HiPoint until recently.

SIG having a "rocky" start, no, not so much. There are two additional factors - the surge of new gun owners. There have been over 16 million more in the last two years, all new owners with no previous firearms experience. They are unaware of the longstanding practice that many makers have been sending out "beta" versions of their initial offering then responding with CS and those forensics to clean up production. That has been ongoing for over a decade - the pace of new gun introductions to keep up with the market pushes in depth testing to an increasingly shorter timeframe. Nobody seems to be immune from it, as the first listing of guns which faced disasters shows.

Another factor is hiring influencers to post online, which results in some making unlikely or even improbable claims of bad quality control, only to disappear within a few rebuttals. This is another phenomenom that has been going on since the internet was invented - some forums have thousands of sign on's with less than a dozen posts over 15-20 years. They pop up by the dozens when a controversy arises and contribute a lot of noise and heat but no facts or credibility.

SIG isn't immune from a lot of this any more than Ruger, Glock, Smith, Colt, Taurus, Remington, etc. It comes around and goes around. Gauging whether or not something is a critical issue takes some perspective - primer wipes was actually a silly issue as it's been a longstanding and almost ignored factor for decades. It was when it targeted SIG when it got a lot more attention - and SIG has been targeted a lot since the M17 was accepted.

Grain of salt and all that.

BTW I bought a P365 6 months ago, it's not a .380 but the incremental differences are made up in capacity and being able to add a safety. Few other makers offer than kind of owner interaction. SIG has created a new way to entice owners who modify their firearms to interact with handguns now, changing grips, features on the FCU, barrel and slide lengths, optional higher capacity magazines, optic sights, etc. This is the real subject of "modularity" - it's more than an armorer offering to put a longer or shorter grip on a sidearm for that soldier. It's making the P320 and P365 the AR15's of the handgun world, and the market has responded to our demands for different products much sooner. SIG gives those makers the specific dimensions to provide a product that is drop in, no gunsmith required. They have been leading in that for a long time, too.

If you plan to carry the same handgun for more than few years and don't rotate thru a dozen, you have options with SIG where others remain inflexible with their static designs. They have to come up with a whole new gun to sell you what SIG can change with a grip or slide. That FCU works in either.
 
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