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I am aware the CZ Evo Scorpion has “evolved”.
Are there two generations or more?
What are the differences in features, etc between “generations”, and how can the generations be identified?
I have a 7.9” pistol that I think is the first generation, but am not sure. If it helps, the serial number is C1113xx.
Thanks in advance,
Scott
 
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Easy way to check: The little cage style flash hider? Unscrew it. You should see threads for the barrel nut. If there's yet another thread protector under that flash hider, it's a Gen 2. They added 1/2x28 threads to these. If not, Gen 1. There's one more difference in the Gen 1's, and that's where the trigger pack has a welded screw. Pull the lower, look in the trigger pack. There's a bolt coming up from the inside of the trigger guard in the bottom of the lower. There will be a nut on the inside of the trigger pack. If the nut is not welded, it's an early one.

The 3+ just came out, and it's obvious to see, everything on the lower is different, looks like a subgun version of the Bren 2.

There will also be a two year production code on your bolt, on the far upper right corner as you look at it. Mine has "16" for 2016.


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Following as a Scorpion may be my next purchase, just waiting to see how this pistol brace stuff works out.




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From a practical point of view the differences are simply not meaningful in any way that I can conceive of. From one who has many of these. Unlike for example maybe MPX generations.
If you are buying one now and don't have an inventory of mags/parts there is simply no reason to not get a 3+. But if you have an earlier one there is not a single compelling reason to upgrade.
All FWIW>


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Thank you for the responses so far. Will check on mine with this information, but it sounds like mine is Gen 1.
So the 3+ is the third generation?
Do magazines work in all three generations?
 
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The mag issue is that the new 3+ has ambi mag release. to do that the 3+ mag is different with a second slot. Its fully backward compatible, but the older ones need a bit of work (whole industry helping on that, jigs and machining) to work on the 3+.


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Originally posted by hrcjon:
The mag issue is that the new 3+ has ambi mag release. to do that the 3+ mag is different with a second slot. Its fully backward compatible, but the older ones need a bit of work (whole industry helping on that, jigs and machining) to work on the 3+.


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I don’t think the welded screw in the trigger pack was a Gen 1/Gen 2 differentiator. IIRC, that was still going on for a while after they started introducing pistols with the newer barrels with the two thread pitches. The barrel threading was the difference.
 
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Mag release is now like an AR.
Bolt release is relocated to be ambi
Grip is more AR style-better ergo
M lock rail system on fore end
Magwell flareed

Didn't fix safety
Mags are still compatable

HB Industries offers a lot of aftermarket products--grip, mag release and handguards that are not needed on Gen 3.
https://hbindustries.net/store...orpion-evo-products/
 
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3+ is good to go out of the box. Ergos are great, even the safety due to the new grip. Only thing I did was add another factory charging handle so it is fully ambi. Well, that and a Timney trigger becasue they make one that fits the 3+ now. But the HBI spring kit is enough to get a decent trigger.

Old mags do not work in the 3+, just the new AR catch style ones. I haven't seen any factory 30's from CZ, just 20's. Magpul will catch up eventually.
 
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