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I would put the CZ P07 in this category as well

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Originally posted by cslinger:
I hope it works out for you. Your post was what made me throw this together.

A couple of HK 9mm caveats.
-They are tight and sprung heavy

-run a box or 3 of 124 grain NATO or 147 grain or defensive ammo early on. Basically hotter and or heavier. 115 grain plinking stuff may not have enough oooomph until they loosen up a bit.

-Clean and lube out of the box. Leave the slide locked open overnight, this will mitigate some break in.

-the steel tabs the slide runs on are covered in polymer that will quickly wear off. This is not a defect or problem in any way.

-Once you loosen them up as above they should run damn near anything. I cannot speak to steel cased as I tend to avoid it.

-you many very well need none of the above. Just don’t get bummed if you do. The guns are designed for LONG life and HOT ammo hence the minor break in early on. (None of my 9mms needed a break in but they were clean and locked back before the first range trip and I mostly run 124 NATO but all of mine run 115 grain powderpuff fine.

-If you run a light just use the Glock Key or whatever insert is for attaching whatever light to a Glock.

-Don’t pay more then $36 for mags.

-you may find the P2000 will fit some Glock 19/26 holsters.

-when shooting.....no the gun is not shooting low you are. Use a combat hold and cover what you are aiming at.

-This is just me but I make it a habit to wipe down my steel magazines after handling them for any brand. Probably just my OCD but keeps my mags in good shape.

-HK P30/VP9 mags fit and function perfectly. In the picture with all the contenders you will see a loose mag. That is a P30/VP9 mag that usually lives in that particular P2000. It has an XGrip adapter on it.

-I tend to run grease but have run everything from CLP to Ballistol to 3 in 1 oil with no issues.

-That flat baseplates make a big difference for carry. They are specific for the 9mm and .40 so make sure you get the right one and if you want them buy them as soon as you find them. They can be a PITA to find.

Congrats and I hope it works out for you.

As always,
Take care, shoot safe
Chris.

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Originally posted by cslinger:
Top gun supply, cdnn, copes distributing have all done good by me. HKparts is EXPENSIVE but might have hard to find stuff.

Trigger, if V3, is typical crappy HK. Nowhere near as bad as the DA on the HK45c but it ain’t no SIG. I have heard lighter springs are easy and go a long way but I don’t monkey with my triggers in general and honestly the P2000/P30 trigger isn’t all that bad.

My HKs are all the LE versions with tru Dot night sights so I haven’t changed any out.

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Originally posted by soggy_spinout:
Nice read; a big thanks for putting it all together.

I'm still not buying that the Beretta is more reliable, not with that open slide of theirs. Out in the real, rough world I think I'd rather have far less openings in the slide of my pistol than to have one huge one that's just begging for all sorts of crap to find its way into. Which is another reason why I don't get all of these crazy slides with their lightening cuts and such for carry guns.

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Well done Sir, and ready for Handgunner magazine.

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Originally posted by BBMW:
An interesting comparison, but I have some methodology issues. I'll focus on one, price. You seem to be confusing objective price vs subjective value. Lets look at the Beretta 92 compact. A quick check shows it's street price (the street being Gunbroker) around $670-700+. A new Gen 5 Glock 19 $550-570. On price, that makes give Glock and unquestionable win.

Value is more subjective. I hear you point about all metal construction, and maybe better ergonomics as increasing the value of the Beretta. But those are likely better covered by other categories, or be their own category (ergonomics / shootability should definitely be a category.)

That's just one example.