If you don’t like it, sell it.
Maybe you got a lemon; I haven’t handled your pistol. But you’re not gonna convince me that mine has a bad trigger and extraction problems, cuz it doesn’t. There isn’t a design flaw.
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Scooter, buddy, you're not doing yourself any favors.
Considering the stratospheric success of the P365, I'd be curious to know specifically who you're referring to as "fan boys". This isn't a cliquish pistol; this is probably the most successful pocket 9mm of the last decade, so, just about everyone who owns one has praised it. I don't own one, not going to own one. The pistol is too small for me to maintain a proper, consistent grip, but that's me making a decision, not having "fan boys" decide for me.
So what have you decided to do, return it to SIG under warranty and let them look at, possibly fix it, or, trade it in on a Ruger, box it up and put it in the back of the safe?
|If it chambers, fire it|
I agree with the majority. I have never had a problem with Speer gold dots in either of my 365's. Perhaps it is a flaw with your pistol? Have a qualified gunsmith take a look.
I've never seen anything that tight, and after looking at both my pistols, I'd have to say my slide most certainly has more rearward clearance than that. Personally, I'd do 2 things:
1. Call SIG CS
2. Trim my finger nails.
Edit, just checked both of mine. If I stop my slide at the position in your photo, based on the position of the barrel lugs, it's almost 3/8" from fully rearward. You have a problem with that pistol.
I lost all my weapons in a boating, umm, accident.
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The P365 is my EDC and has been for 13 months or so now. I shoot it every week at least once a week.
Never a problem, never a bobble, nothing. It runs flawlessly.
And while the trigger left a little to be desired when I bought it, after I installed the MCARBO trigger kit it's now one of the better carry gun triggers I've shot over the years.
No problems with either of my P365s. Granted that I've only shot a limited variety of heavier hollow points through them; 147gr and 150gr HSTs (124gr +P HST is my regular carry load), 147gr Gold Dot, 147gr SIG V-Crown...through one or both guns. No bobbles at all.
Issued Gold dot 147, never experienced this issue in my 365 or 365X-Macro
Looks like a type-2/3 malfunction...
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I thought it might be a 1D10T type issue...
That's enough of that. Mind your manners.
While I personally will never own a P365/P320 (hands to large, not really that interested in polymer beyond what I have).
I've only heard good things from others including people I know (which is just first hand and really doesn't mean that much)
The production/sales statistics make the P365 series the most successful of the crop of Micro compact 9's in recent history and one of the most highly produced and sold guns in recent years.
I would contact SIG about the issue.
Have you tried this with multiple magazines by constantly racking the slide etc to see if it happens on every/most rounds?
I'd be interested in the video.
FYI I'm not that amazed by SIG's Polymer (or anyone's) but that is more of a me preference than anything else.
I'd say its a stretch to say SIG has "bad engineering" just from anyone's sole opinion.
There is Quantitative proof to the contrary showing SIG has good engineering: such as high production and sales statistics for P365/P320, Army using the P320/possibly SIG rifles based on Army testing, few reported problems after initial teething for the P320/P365, previous SIG designs that they build upon, inventing the modified browning action that almost all guns use including everyone's favorite Glock, etc.
1.130 sounds a little long for the OAL on a JHP.
I never go over 1.15 OAL on 9mm.
If it's over that, you have severely out of spec ammo and the gun is not to blame.
My 365 has been flawless and I have been a very vocal critic of Sig's past flaws.This message has been edited. Last edited by: Mars_Attacks,
Eeewwww, don't touch it!
Here, poke at it with this stick.
Just to double check I just loaded a magazine with 2 each 147 gr. HST, Gold Dot, Ranger-T and some HST flat nosed practice ammo with the purple bullet, along with 2 rounds of 135 gr. Critical Duty. Then I hand cycled the slide and the gun chambered and ejected each cartridge flawlessly.
Then I repeated the exercise twice more for a total of 30 cartridges hand cycled without issue. I have a video of me running through a magazine if anyone needs proof.
I too have been a vocal critic of Sig but they knocked it out of the park with the P365. Somethings either wrong with your gun or your ammo but as you can see by all of the responses it’s not as common a problem as you think.This message has been edited. Last edited by: Pale Horse,
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I went full Glock some years ago and still have several that are flawless and at this point aren't going anywhere. I thought I'd not likely go back to Sig since, why would I for this class gun? Well the hype of the 365 got the best of me and I picked up a 365 XL, then a complete 356 upper for when concealment was an issue. These are great guns. I guess not for everyone but that's the case with any gun. \
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1.130 is pretty long but it's not crazy. I don't have any Gold Dot or Critical Defense but I measured a few Winchester RA9T and they're at 1.110. 147 grain ammo is usually pretty 'short'; I recall Federal 9mm FMJ flat point was at 1.05 (I shot thousands of them before I started to reload). As you probably know max COAL for 9mm is 1.169 so you're getting relatively close.
I don't think the P365 has a design defect based on what you're showing here but plenty of guns don't work well with ammo at the longer end.
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Our duty load for our 9mm guns is the Speer Gold Dot 124. There are a LOT of p365e on our department that get shot quite a bit annually at BUG quals. We've never had an issue. I've got 2 p365s. Neither has an issue either with my duty ammo or my personal preference of 147 gr Gold Dot or HST.
I'm at ~2500 rounds through my 365 from the 2nd yr of production: 90% handloads with 95 gr FMJ's, 100 & 124 gr LSWC's, 124 gr Win, R-P, and Montana Golds and 500 or so factory FMJ's of American Eagle, Winchester & Remington make. With that amount of shooting, I cannot remember a malfunction, and I've loaded as long as 1.135". IMHO, it's no design failure...the gun's a gem for CC use. Rod
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Add me to the list of P365XL shooting 124+p Gold Dot users with zero problems so far.
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