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For Glock making Gen 3 G19 MOS for SOCOM - primarily professional contacts but there is also a thread on AR-15.com re: SOF use of Glocks / the G19 which includes photos of them by a user who goes by Combat diver. As for the G26 Gen4 being adopted by SOCOM as the Mk 26 and the Gen 4 G19 MOS as the Mk 27 they both have NSNs as such: https://nsn-now.com/1005016581930 https://nsn-now.com/1005016587261 | |||
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That's awesome! I knew about the G19 but I'm quite surprised about the G26. | |||
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The FN 509 will be issued to recruits going forward. None of the in-service officers will be issued one, however, officers who are qualified to carry a striker fired pistol will be able to transition to one if they buy one at their own expense. The Stacatto is what the cool kids all want to carry, however, due to a variety of factors including lack of Bonus qualification and transition schools, not a lot of guys have been able to transition recently. They did have Pistol Mounted Optics Schools for a couple of months earlier this year, so some officers are now carrying RDS systems. | |||
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There aren’t too many. There are guys out there who are still carrying the 4506, but most transitioned to Glocks or retired. | |||
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Thanks mutagen! All my friends who carried S&W 3rd Gen 45s have retired from LAPD. I do know one or two younger guys who took the decocker school last time it was offered by LAPD. Both of them carry 4506-1. Regards 18DAI 7+1 Rounds of hope and change | |||
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In that world low visibility missions in non permissible or even denied areas are a thing. Plenty of work outside active war zones. The G26 were easy to justify on the admin side. The M9 filled to full size service pistol role, there was overlap between the G19 and the M11/P228 for the compact niche but there was nothing else which filled the sub compact role for low visibility operations. Some of the Navy folks who used P226/Mk25s used P239s for the same type low visibility operations but those likely went away when the Mk25s did. | |||
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Could you advise which optics are currently authorized ? And any particular requirements related to mounting ? Are they restricted to factory set ups such as MOS/CORE etc or are other options allowed ? I ask because in both my own experience and at my agency we have found that as optics them senses have improved “proper” mounting is 50% of the durability equation. | |||
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Currently, the authorized optics are the Aimpoint Acro P1, Trijicon RMR Type 2, and the Sig Sauer Romeo 1 Pro. They can be mounted on a Glock, M&P or 1911 that already has a factory optic cut. No custom optic cuts are authorized. Glock users may use the factory plate, a Forward Controls plate or a C&H plate, but they must use a sealing plate regardless of which mounting plate they use. All optics are checked for proper mounting torque at the school and witness marks are placed on the screws if they haven’t already been marked. When the schools were being offered earlier this year, the FN had not been authorized. However, moving forward, anyone who wants to spend their own money would be free to mount an RDS on an FN as long as they have been certified to carry a pistol mounted optic. | |||
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Thank you. I assume there are still a decent amount of 92s out there. One question I have always had, and I may be totally off base on this. Why does LAPD not allow anything in front of the gun gear wise? That would be a lot of empty space, especially on a small guy like me. | |||
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Are you talking about on the Sam Browne duty belt? It’s probably because they have a specific requirement of what can go on the belt and where it can go. However, unless it’s an inspection, there is a lot of leeway, and guys do carry things on their front right like keys and small lights. I would tend to agree though, it’s best not to put anything in front of the gun that could potentially get in the way. I would also add that for the past year and a half, with Covid, the Department has authorized BDUs and nylon webgear, so currently, there is quite a bit of leeway on how officers carry their equipment. | |||
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Was at my local shop this weekend and the FN rep was there. The rep claimed the PA State police are adopting the 509. Anybody heard this? | |||
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Reference PSP adopting the FN-509: I've also read that PSP is going back to Glock or hasn't made a decision yet. Some years ago, FN representatives were at my LGS. They tried to sell me on the FN 5.7 because all the California SWAT teams were getting them. That seemed suspect. I offered the thought that it was unwise to carry a pistol that will penetrate one's armor, Pishposh, the special operations team of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement was using the 5.7. I thanked the reps and told them I had to go over to the archery section or look at flashlights or something. When I attended an IALEFI ITC, one class was taught by two FDLE firearms instructors who had been on their special operations team. I asked if they carried the 5.7. They looked at me with surprise and told me they carried Glock. They had obtained a couple of 5.6's for evaluation,but had no interest in issuing it. In fairness to FN, they did treat my former department right during our disastrous time with the FNS-9. We would have been better served with 5.7's... or Browning High Powers. I wouldn't bet any money on PSP going with any gun based on the word of manufacturer's rep. | |||
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I reached out to a friend that retired as a Captain from PSP last year. He's a mild gun guy and hasn't heard about FN for PSP. I know we talked about it in the past and he was VERY happy with the Sig P227 that PSP currently issues. In all his years the first time he ever shot a perfect qualification score was with the P227. He bought all his previously issued guns, 2 variations of the Beretta 96D, Glock 37, G4 Glock 21 and his P227.This message has been edited. Last edited by: sigarms229, Sometimes, you gotta roll the hard six | |||
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I know all of you will be just shocked and amazed to learn that Distributor and Manufacturer Reps.... Lie! And there is the occasional all expense paid golf outings for Chiefs, too. End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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Disregard, double tap while editing.This message has been edited. Last edited by: sigarms229, Sometimes, you gotta roll the hard six | |||
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I carried a FNX .45T as a duty gun for 8 years. Here is what I can tell you about my experience. We would shoot at least 1800 rounds a year (due in large part to SWAT training), and usually more when we went to schools or brought an instructor in. I had never had a single malfunction, I shit you not. Our practice ammo was Spear Lawman, our duty ammo was Gold Dot. The handgun dirty or clean, never failed. I never had an issue with the frame getting soft, but I never left on my dashboard eithr so there is that. My .45T was extremely accurate. When I was on my game I could stack rounds one on top of each other and so could others that wanted to shoot it. I had no issue trusting my life to that handgun> I recently retired so it and are on a sabatical. | |||
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