I think I still have an R51 pin and some stickers from SHOT show back then. Maaaan, they pushed that thing haaard. Advertising budget must’ve been more than R&D for the pistol. Dont know anyone who was surprised by its failure though.
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Posts: 7497 | Location: Alpine, Ut | Registered: February 17, 2010
I have to admit I purchased one when they first came out. I had been reading about them and bought into the hype. Soon after they were released, I found one in my LGS and snatched it up immediately. It didn't take too long to realize what a mistake it was.
When Remington announced their voluntary recall, I sent mine back and they were supposed to replace it with a 2nd generation model. After a year of being told the 2nd gen was coming out next month, or next quarter, etc I gave up and took an R1 in replacement.
Somewhere in my gun room I still have a magazine for it. A friend is a table top FFL, and he has several of the 2nd generation models in various finishes for reasonable prices. Every time I start to think about grabbing one, I mentally slap myself.
Posts: 1629 | Location: Northern Ky | Registered: March 23, 2005
That was such a metallic turd, thanks for sharing. This escaped my attention. Which is a good thing. I wonder if these things will actually become valuable to collectors if they are so bad that they become super scarce. Just curious.
Posts: 3411 | Location: Alexandria, VA | Registered: March 07, 2011
Remember how all the gun rags and YouTube shills praised it initially?
I did buy one of the vintage, hundred year old "Model 51" pistols. This was NOT the new R51.
I never ended up taking the "Model 51" to the range, but just playing around with it was interesting. Racking the slide empty, The gun felt like it wanted to jam. I suspect the problems with the R51 wer not simply Remington's poor execution, but the whole design of the recoil system was fundamentally flawed from the beginning and why it was abandoned a hundred years ago.
The R51 had styling that reminded me of a toy gun I had growing up.
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Posts: 17238 | Location: Northern Virginia | Registered: November 08, 2008
It was a really stupid decision to try and resurrect this design but why on earth did they push it into production? Early on into the R&D phase they must have known about all of its inherent problems and they certainly didn't fix any of them, so I just dont understand why they went ahead and produced it. Didn't someone say " Uh, guys there are solid, reliable, well established pistols out there that are much better than our pos. Let's just cut our losses and abandon it." But no, Remington put it on the market and then doubled down on the failure with the RP9.
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Posts: 3214 | Location: TX | Registered: October 08, 2005
Originally posted by Fenris: Remember how all the gun rags and YouTube shills praised it initially?
The term Access Media should be drilled into anybody thinking that reviews are objective and honest. Unless the reviewer can point-out shortcomings and provide perspective on the market place, most reviews are simply fluff.
I remember this paper weight when it came out. I've like the Walther/Makarov-style of design, its just nobody has been able to modernize into a reliable form...perhaps that's a sign.
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