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Originally posted by sigfreund:
“Why carry anything else?”
Because the P365 isn’t chambered in 357 SIG.

(You asked. )

Love my 357Sig P320

That said, if I were buying a new pistol, the 365XL would probably be it.
Still planning on a standard 365 for my wife, once we can find the time for her to try one.

I bought a 365XL, and find it very easy to shoot accurately with the green dot sight (507K-GR).

However it stings my hand a bit, particularly compared to the 320 Compact. Do others find this an issue? Probably will buy the Wilson grip module, that might help.

I'm considering a Hogue grip sleeve for this reason. The Wilson looks nice but I don't see how it provides any comfort shooting. I've used grip sleeves on my light weight guns and find it more comfortable handing them. I've yet to shoot my xl....

I have Houge grip sleeve for my P365 and it improves the grip and comfort for me and will likely get one for my inbound P365Xl as well.

They are pretty inexpensive to give it a try.

Hogue grip sleeves are comfy, but they slow your draw. Too sticky IMO.

I had a P365 but had to change some things on it to make it a better gun for me. I shot too low with it, as I am not that good with the Sig combat sighting system. So I changed the front sight to a number 8, which helped immensely with accuracy. The original grip was a little too small for my hands so I bought an XL grip,which also helped. The gun felt a lot better after a few small things I changed, which is the beauty of the platform.

My only complaint is that there's no grip zone, so I really have to concentrate on where to hold it but otherwise it's the "one gun" for me that can be a passable duty gun, EDC, or backup.

The P365XL replaced everything for me: P229/P239 work/off-duty, then 23/27 work/off-duty, LCP or J frame for yardwork/dog walking. It's amazing to be able to beat the habit of having two guns (or three if you count a BUG!) and STILL know your little EDC can hack the qual course.

It's a freaking transformer. Need a close analog to a duty pistol with an optic, light, and 46 rounds (15x3+1)? Done. Need to swap the grip frame for the P365 so you have a BUG? Done, and unlike the "chopped" 19s from the 90's and 00's that were cut down to a 26 size, I can undo the change. Tired of having to pick? 12 round EDC with a 15 round mag to back it up.

I'm willing to bet the P365XL platform is responsible for a hell of a lot of WTS ads in the forum; certainly thinned out my gun safe.

I’m a big fan of the P365. It replaced my P938 as EDC a few years back when I bought two of them (July 2018). I absolutely love it for pocket carry as I rarely wear a cover garment.

I sent one out to get pimped, other is my go to for daily carry unless I feel the desire to “gun up” and go with something larger which is usually my P320 X-Carry.

Now that I have lost a lot of weight I find myself carrying IWB more than pocket carry. I am getting to the point of favoring optical sights over a laser, and moving to IWB carry makes that more practical for EDC. I now find myself jonesing for an P365X or XL with an red dot.

I am thinking maybe I’ll sell my little used P320 X-Five and get both. I’ve got plenty of safe queen, never going to carry guns (Legions, Hk’s, 1911’s) so really hard to justify the big P320. Great shooter, but I’ve got other “full size” 9’s I like better (P226, Hk P30L).

Local Cabela’s has a P365XL with Romeo in stock, maybe I’ll wander over this afternoon and have a looksie…

I purchased a P365 a few months ago. I have since added an X slide with a Romeo Zero RD.
I just received the Sig Blackpoint IWB and a CrossBreed Mini Tuck holsters. Both fit well and are comfortable (sitting/standing). Full disclosure, I have ~1" belt "overhang".
That doesn't seem to hinder access.
I love how this gun feels and shoots. I do prefer the "click" retention feel and sound of the Sig rig.

I'm not crazy about the 365 trigger, kind of spongy.
I did jump in on them. Bought 3, over a period. The 365 is a great hot weather carry gun. I did get a X and added a Shield red dot. Full grip and dot, still easy to carry. Number 3 was the XL. The tiny extra sight radius is working for me.

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Originally posted by mike56:
I'm not crazy about the 365 trigger, kind of spongy.

That's an understatement. I bought a P365, added a manual safety, added an XL grip, and it is my most favorite carry. Size, weight, capacity, I have no need to carry anything else.

But the trigger sucks.

Oh I can hit my target.

But the trigger sucks.

Ever freeze a bowl of Cool Whip? Ever stick your finger in it and drag it through that smooth white wasteland? Now toss in some leftover graham cracker crumbs from your hillbilly cousin who only moments before was picking the crusty boogers out of his nose before he stuck his finger in that delicious bowl of sugary White Lightening.

He left a smooth but rocky trail didn't he?

Thats how spongy and crunchy the trigger is.

I can shoot it, and I love carrying it, but dam that trigger sucks.

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Originally posted by mbinky:

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Originally posted by mike56:
I'm not crazy about the 365 trigger, kind of spongy.

That's an understatement. I bought a P365, added a manual safety, added an XL grip, and it is my most favorite carry. Size, weight, capacity, I have no need to carry anything else.

But the trigger sucks.

Oh I can hit my target.

But the trigger sucks.

Ever freeze a bowl of Cool Whip? Ever stick your finger in it and drag it through that smooth white wasteland? Now toss in some leftover graham cracker crumbs from your hillbilly cousin who only moments before was picking the crusty boogers out of his nose before he stuck his finger in that delicious bowl of sugary White Lightening.

He left a smooth but rocky trail didn't he?

Thats how spongy and crunchy the trigger is.

I can shoot it, and I love carrying it, but dam that trigger sucks.

Two things that you can do to improve it would be to disassemble and clean the FCU really well and then swap the trigger for the flat trigger from the XL. The difference between the 365 and XL trigger feel is night and day. I think you’ll be really happy with the results.

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Originally posted by mbinky:

Ever freeze a bowl of Cool Whip? Ever stick your finger in it and drag it through that smooth white wasteland? Now toss in some leftover graham cracker crumbs from your hillbilly cousin who only moments before was picking the crusty boogers out of his nose before he stuck his finger in that delicious bowl of sugary White Lightening.

He left a smooth but rocky trail didn't he?

Thats how spongy and crunchy the trigger is.

Lol, best trigger description I've ever read. I feel sort of odd now though...more than normal odd.

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Originally posted by Legal Beagle:

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Originally posted by mbinky:

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Originally posted by mike56:
I'm not crazy about the 365 trigger, kind of spongy.

That's an understatement. I bought a P365, added a manual safety, added an XL grip, and it is my most favorite carry. Size, weight, capacity, I have no need to carry anything else.

But the trigger sucks.

Oh I can hit my target.

But the trigger sucks.

Ever freeze a bowl of Cool Whip? Ever stick your finger in it and drag it through that smooth white wasteland? Now toss in some leftover graham cracker crumbs from your hillbilly cousin who only moments before was picking the crusty boogers out of his nose before he stuck his finger in that delicious bowl of sugary White Lightening.

He left a smooth but rocky trail didn't he?

Thats how spongy and crunchy the trigger is.

I can shoot it, and I love carrying it, but dam that trigger sucks.

Two things that you can do to improve it would be to disassemble and clean the FCU really well and then swap the trigger for the flat trigger from the XL. The difference between the 365 and XL trigger feel is night and day. I think you’ll be really happy with the results.

And you might want to try this trigger spring kit. https://www.mcarbo.com/sig-sau...gger-spring-kit.aspx

I did it to mine a week after I bought it and the trigger improvement was impressive.

It's lighter, can't say how much lighter as I have no trigger pull gauge, but I'd say it's down to around 4-1/2 pounds or so from 6 or 7 pounds from the factory.

Also, the grittiness is gone, but I think that comes from me cleaning and lubing the striker block and not from the springs.

I didn't do the sear spring yet and I may not as the improvement with just the replacement of the striker spring and striker block spring is pretty much good enough for me and I can't see where I could get much more improvement from the replacement of the sear spring.

That spring kit looks nice. I'll have to try the gun first and may opt for that. Thanks for the link...

For me it was ergos. When I wanted something smaller than the venerable (in my eyes) Glock 26, it was about a year after the 365 came out, so it was on my list of guns to fondle. It was too small for me. I have medium hands and everything pertaining to weapon manipulation seemed challenging. Simply holding the gun felt great, until I had to charge it, reload it, shoot it...you know, the nuanced parts of the gun.

Cue the 43x. Larger all around versus the 365 and just felt much better for me. Not terribly small compared to the Glock 26, but slimmer and while it conceals differently compared to the 26 (not better, just different) I've taken to the 43x quite well.

The P365 trigger isn't mushy in my opinion. It feels like a P320 trigger, which is just fine. The P365 is a small P320.

I like 1911's. While there are those that will drop a condition 1 single action pistol in their pocket, I'm not one of them. I'm comfortable carrying condition 1 all day long, cocked and locked, but for pocket carry, no. The P320/P365 comes as close as I care, to that condition, and I will put that in my pocket, in a holster that covers the trigger guard and trigger. I carried one for a few weeks without anything in the chamber, before I carried with one in the chamber, and sitting, standing, moving around, it just hasn't been an issue.

For shooting, the trigger has a longer takeup, and perhaps this is the "mush" that some are referring to. I replaced the curved triggers on my P365's with Grayguns and Sig flat triggers, as all my P320's also use flat triggers (except for one Apex and one slightly curved Grayguns competition trigger). I like the feel.

The thing about the "mush" is that for what amounts to pocket carrying a single-action cocked and unlocked pistol, the P365 is going to have a little takeup before the striker is released. I want it to, it does, I'm not sorry. Holding that trigger to the rear as the slide cycles, however, there's not much reset and there's no "mush" to the trigger when it's released to the reset and pressed again. First shot, slight takeup, second shot, no takeup, no mush, short reset, very smooth, just press through, no significant wall. For a pocket pistol, I think it's a great trigger.

A 1911 trigger would be dandy, but it's not a 1911. It's a striker fired pistol that unlike Glocks, is fully cocked and is simply released by the trigger, rather than sitting half-cocked. When the buzzer beeps, there's nothing between me and that first round but that little bit of takeup. No trigger safety, no manual safety, nothing. I like that in a personal carry pocket pistol. It's easier to clean than a revolver, holds more rounds, spare rounds are more easily reloaded and reloaded quickly with less chance for error, and the spare rounds are easier to carry in that spare magazine, I can carry more, and they don't get covered in pocket crud like lint. The P365 is a pocket revolver that doesn't revolve, has a lighter trigger, shorter reset, feeds automatically, more rounds, yada, yada. What's not to like? Trigger? I think it's excellent.

I like everything that Glock has put out, and I was a guy that wouldn't touch a Glock for years. When I first saw a P320, it was at one of Jerry Jones classes; a guy hosting the class produced one, let me shoot it after the class one day, and it was an epiphany. He broke it down for me, showed me the modularity. I had to try one. I bought half a dozen initially, loved them, began playing with them. The P365 came out, I heard a number of reports of broken firing pins, including a number of them reported first-hand right here on this site. I went to a range, tried one that was available for rental, and immediately ordered one. I went across town and there was one just arriving off the truck, and bought that one, too. I put a few thousand rounds through it, it shot everything, but I still wasn't convinced. After all, broken striker reports were coming in up to several thousand rounds. A few thousand was no guarantee...so I put more through it, eventually ordered the newer strikers with the greater radius and more material at the striker base, and installed them in each of the P365's.

The Wilson grips look interesting. Honestly, the grayguns sculpted P365 that's on my regular pocket carry P365 is just about perfect, though, and I can't think of a reason to change it. (I first heard of Bruce Gray through this site, took a class just to meet him, was impressed with what he had to say, what he stood for, and his products, and have since become a big fan of what his company sells...so I mention them quite a bit because I use them quite a bit). I have a Grayguns trigger in my personal P365, and I'm thinking of one of his P365 compensators for a project, P365 in a P365xl grip module). Can't say enough good about the stuff.

The factory trigger is great, out of the box. I like it better with a flat trigger; preference.

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Originally posted by patw:
I had a P365 but had to change some things on it to make it a better gun for me. I shot too low with it, as I am not that good with the Sig combat sighting system. So I changed the front sight to a number 8, which helped immensely with accuracy. The original grip was a little too small for my hands so I bought an XL grip,which also helped. The gun felt a lot better after a few small things I changed, which is the beauty of the platform.

Most likely you are anticipating recoil and pulling down. Better to fix your bad habits than blame it on the gun. I used to do that, but after a class with JLJones at OpSpec training the problem went away.

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Originally posted by Mastrogiacomo:
That spring kit looks nice. I'll have to try the gun first and may opt for that. Thanks for the link...

My XL came with the trigger at about 4.7 lbs. The MCarbo spring kit dropped the weight down half a pound. My guess is that Sig changed the springs at one point, with the older guns having the heavy pull.

I believe he's referring not to jerking the pistol down, but to the sight height; one that covers the point of impact, vs. a sight combination that places the point of impact on top of the front sight.

Good training, however, is never a bad idea.