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Originally posted by Mastrogiacomo:
Any suggestions for easy install?

I assume you’re referring to changing the grip module.
If so, it’s basically the same as removing the fire control unit from a P320 except that the P365 FCU is held in by a pin at the upper rear of the grip that must be removed and then reinstalled.
If all you’re doing is changing the grip module, be a little careful in handling the FCU when it’s out so you don’t dislodge and lose anything (as evidently has happened to at least one forum member).

Search for “P365 grip module change” on YouTube and you’ll get a number of results.

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Originally posted by Mastrogiacomo:
I just picked up my gun today and trying it out, but have yet to shoot it. I'm just getting a feel for it. The mag release takes some getting used to and I'm planning on getting a Hogue grip for it. Any suggestions for easy install? I checked out the box and I don't see anything to help with changing the grip module. Is this something you buy? I'm surprised there wasn't anything included.

Laura

Re: The Mag Release, you might consider swapping out the SIG OEM Mag Release for an Extended/Checkered version from Armory Craft or GrayGuns. I found the OEM Mag Release on the P365 somewhat slick/lacking in purchase and and a little to flat to the Grip Module. This was evident to me when I was still on the hunt to actually find a P365 In Stock ANYWHERE in Nov. 2020. My LGS had a NIB P365 XL in stock and a used P365 w/ Manual Safety that had the Armory Craft Mag Release. When I released the Mag and double check the CLEAR condition of the P365 that was just cleared & handed to me, I knew at that moment I'd be replacing the OEM Mag Release. The difference was dramatic to me and though I didn't want either of those pistols (I was looking for the std. P365 to which I had already planned to add a P365 XL Grip Module), as soon as I got home I immediately scoured the internet to determine the manufacturer of the aftermarket Mag Release and where I could find one. I actually got the Armory Craft Mag Release BEFORE I was able to get the P365!

GrayGuns has since released an Extended Mag Release, but I can't speak to their offering specifically other than the fact that they make great stuff to improve/refine all things SIG, and I've bought a lot from them for my P220's, P225's, P228's, P226's, and P320's.

Armory Craft: $34.95 In Stock --> https://www.armorycraft.com/pr...e-catch-with-texture

GrayGuns: $49.00 In Stock --> https://grayguns.com/product/p...ed-magazine-release/

Re: your P365 Grip Module, unless you want a 'fatter' grip, you might consider replacing the Grip Module entirely. I find the std. P365 Grip too short and lacking purchase for me (in large part because I can't get my pinky on the gun). I replaced it with P365XL Module, and my homespun P365X variant (before the P365X was a thing) is perfect for me. If you're looking for more texture on the Grip Module, I can kinda' vouch for the GrayGuns Laser-Sculpted Grip Modules. Though I don't have one for my P365, I do have one for my P320 X-Compact and it's the cat's meow! IMO it's got just the right amount of texture, while not being overly aggressive, and texture in all the right places!

https://grayguns.com/product/p...ulpted-grip-modules/

Best of luck customizing your SIG 'Go-Go-Gadget' Pistol to suit your needs!

Because it's not chambered in .44 Magnum.

Because my M&P 2.0 4" compact is just a bit bigger and heavier but not too much bigger and heavier and I tend to shoot better with bigger and heavier pistols. Also the M&P has a bit more capacity with the flush fit 15 round magazine and 17 round backup.

Also because I have a shit ton invested in holsters mags etc.

I just don't see the incremental benefits such as they may be to be worth the cost of changing over to the 365 X or XL.

I do have a 365 which I really like for when I need or want something small. And then a LCP Max when I go smaller still.

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I tend to shoot better with bigger and heavier pistols.

I predict that many others will rediscover this point in the next few years.

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:

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I tend to shoot better with bigger and heavier pistols.

I predict that many others will rediscover this point in the next few years.

In my case I thought it was obvious many years ago, but as time goes by I wanted to carry something smaller and lighter and I'm willing to sacrifice a little of my accuracy to attain that goal.

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:

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I tend to shoot better with bigger and heavier pistols.

I predict that many others will rediscover this point in the next few years.

Yeah, that’s what I discovered. After shooting a P365 for the first time I switched from a G19 to it. I was amazed at how well I shot the 365 out of the box. But no matter how much I practiced I never shot it as good as my G19. While the 365 is much smaller and lighter I can carry my G19 all day without issue, so I switched back.

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Originally posted by Flash-LB:

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:

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I tend to shoot better with bigger and heavier pistols.

I predict that many others will rediscover this point in the next few years.

In my case I thought it was obvious many years ago, but as time goes by I wanted to carry something smaller and lighter and I'm willing to sacrifice a little of my accuracy to attain that goal.

We all know that choice of a CCW is a balancing of incremental factors based on personal preference. There is nothing wrong with the accuracy of the XL, far from it, especially for defensive purposes. Hell, if that were the only factor I would carry my 226 which I shoot best of all, but I'm not doing that.

For me, the M&P hits my sweet spot, and to be perfectly honest, my bigger driver is the time, effort and cost of changing out to a new platform.

When the 365 first came out it was roundly praised for not being a big gun, but one that fit the CCW ethic the best way possible so far. Now, the standard 365 is "too small."

Will SIG need to market an XXL next year?

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Originally posted by kho:
We all know that choice of a CCW is a balancing of incremental factors based on personal preference. There is nothing wrong with the accuracy of the XL, far from it, especially for defensive purposes. Hell, if that were the only factor I would carry my 226 which I shoot best of all, but I'm not doing that.

For me, the difference in group size at 7 yards between the P226 and the P365 was about 1/2" and I've only shot the 365 around 6 times. That might change as I get more used to it. Had to change my grip for it as my wedding ring was banging the third joint on my little finger of my right hand because of the size of the grip.

That falls into the "who cares" category.

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Originally posted by Tirod:
Will SIG need to market an XXL next year?

, or maybe you will be right. And then we will have people whining about there being too many confusing models, and just like other models that have been discontinued the original standard might disappear.

Every decision about defensive weaponry involves compromises.
My normal carry gun is a P320 “Carry” model because it conceals easier even though I can shoot the full size a little better.
If I couldn’t hit anything with my standard P365, I wouldn’t rely on it for the purpose, but I can shoot it acceptably well so it gets carried on occasion.

But if the standard model gets discontinued and is replaced by an XXXL model with 4.7 inch barrel and 21-round magazine, at least the process will provide some of the entertainment we’ve come to rely upon from SIG.

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Originally posted by Flash-LB:
In my case I thought it was obvious many years ago, but as time goes by I wanted to carry something smaller and lighter and I'm willing to sacrifice a little of my accuracy to attain that goal.

There seems to be something of a cycle in the pistol market. At some point, every manufacturer vies to produce the teeniest CCW they can. Then the sizes of pistols that sell start ooching up, getting larger and larger. Then at some point some bright young marketeer decides that a pistol chambered for a fairly powerful cartridge but just too damn small to shoot well is the "next big thing" and the whole mess (I would expect, anyway) repeats itself.

As we cycle through the process (assuming that I'm correct in thinking there's a cycle), each of us reconfigures what we think is the "right" set of compromises for us.

Oh, and I don't know about the P365XXXL, but I've gotta admit I'd probably like a XXL. Just pop another half inch onto the front end.

I like the M&P 2.0 Compact. And if you can carry it easily/comfortably, you're definitely good to go. But the P365XL is definitely smaller and thinner, so it would be easier to carry. It's really more comparable to M&P 2.0 subcompact, which is also 12 rounds. But that gun is noticeably thicker, which is an issue for a lot of people.

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Originally posted by kho:
Because my M&P 2.0 4" compact is just a bit bigger and heavier but not too much bigger and heavier and I tend to shoot better with bigger and heavier pistols. Also the M&P has a bit more capacity with the flush fit 15 round magazine and 17 round backup.

Also because I have a shit ton invested in holsters mags etc.

I just don't see the incremental benefits such as they may be to be worth the cost of changing over to the 365 X or XL.

I do have a 365 which I really like for when I need or want something small. And then a LCP Max when I go smaller still.

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They already do, sort of. It's called the P320.

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Originally posted by Tirod:
When the 365 first came out it was roundly praised for not being a big gun, but one that fit the CCW ethic the best way possible so far. Now, the standard 365 is "too small."

Will SIG need to market an XXL next year?

I'm new to the 365 family. I picked up a 365X for my CCW permit. Thus far, I've only shot it to qualify for the permit process and been carrying for just a few days. Obviously much easier to conceal that my 229.

I've got small hands so the 365x size is ideal. Now I've got to find a suitable IWB for 6 o'clock position.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by BBMW:
I like the M&P 2.0 Compact. And if you can carry it easily/comfortably, you definitely good to go.


Ryan Grizzle rocks!

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Originally posted by techguy:
I keep looking in my gun safe at all my pistols and can’t come up with one reason to carry any other pistol over my Sig P365xl. It’s light, easy to conceal, 12-15 rounds, points great, fits my hand real good, low recoil, accurate.

Similar thing happened to me. I have 4 kids and live in a hot and dry environment. I can carry the 365xl with a dot comfortably year round. Can not say I did the same with anything else besides a glock 48 which I never really liked. The sig has a better trigger, points better, and I like the mounting system much better than the mos which likes to launch optics into your face.

Yea, I can’t agree with many of the “cycle” comments above. The 365 broke the sector and caused its own revolutionary product cycle. Prior to the 365 you could buy smaller, low capacity, hard to shoot well guns. I bought some of them. Bodyguard 380, Sig 290RS, Beretta Bobcat, etc. They all served a purpose but didn’t do anything particularly well besides being small. Enter the Shield and the G43 and you got a bit bigger, still low capacity, but improved shooting ergos. Then the 365 popped in and destroyed the field. Smaller than those 2 with significantly more capacity in a very easy to shoot well package.

People who don’t like the 365 generally (not always) fit into 3 categories. The first is it’s too small for my hand and I can’t shoot it so I don’t like it category. Totally legit but also means small guns are never going to work for you so maybe you should hang out with the Glock 26 with extended base pads guys. Lol.

Second category is “meh, it’s not that much better than my fill in the blank”. Not as legit because you are in the minority. Which is cool as long as you recognize they sold a million if these in no time because it works better than anything else in this category for the vast majority of shooters.

Then there’s the I hate MIM, Sig shouldn’t make me a beta tester, primer drag, broken strikers, Ron Cohen can blow me guys. Not much to be said for those guys. I get it, I sent 5 320’s for a “voluntary” upgrade so I wouldn’t shoot myself in my grape. The current crop (for awhile now) of 365’s don’t have any issues. They just work.

I love the current crop of alternative modules. I’ve been very happy with grayguns version but these WC look real nice especially for the bigger hand guys. I want an Icarus Precision metal module at some point.

Bottom line, if you haven’t tried a 365 and want a pocket gun or a slightly bigger micro (X) then do yourself a favor and get a 365. They are the cream of this category by far. Some dissenters but they are in the huge minority.

Like I said on another thread, my buddy tried one of mine with a Holosun and was pinging plates at 50 yards at a good, for him, clip. He immediately bought one with a Romeo Zero for his wife.

Yum.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by pedropcola:
Second category is “meh, it’s not that much better than my fill in the blank”. Not as legit because you are in the minority. Which is cool as long as you recognize they sold a million if these in no time because it works better than anything else in this category for the vast majority of shooters.



I guess I fall in this category, as compared to the XL model. The XL would definitely conceal better but on the whole I prefer the M&P I have. My reasons are already stated. I think they are valid - but of course I do.

The 365 is in a different category altogether and I traded a Nano for it. The 365 is a definite upgrade. It is excellent.

Whilst are used to have a P3 65, and there are a lot of things I liked about it, I’ve always been kind of a Glock guy. I have a 43 and a 43X and a 26. Those work for me. (But I will admit I’d like to try the XL). The only thing Hennigan wise that I need now is a 10 mm, but those are a pain in the neck to get out here in California.