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All other things being equal, 124 may cycle better than 115 if one tends to limp-wrist the gun. YMMV.


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To me it sometimes depends on the manufacturer. Blazer, AE, Fiocchi, etc. I like 124, but I like S and B 115 as it’s plenty warm to get great ejection. I’ve never really had an issue with 115, but for breaking in a new gun I run at least a box of 124 through it.

I am also in the camp that believes any new 9mm auto should run any factory 115 ammo though out of the box. Should and reality are sometimes different though unfortunately.
 
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124 grain NATO, partly because that's what's stocked in our armories. It's also a nice compromise between the snappiness of 115 gr, and the pushiness of 147 gr.

For a self-defense round 124 gr +P, such as HST. Basically like the civilian equivalent to the NATO cartridge.



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I shoot 115gr the most, b/c it's the most affordable; however, I prefer 124gr for the reasons others posted already.

Most of my handguns were made in Europe. Euro manufacturers design their 9mm guns around 124gr. Many of their owner's manuals specify to shoot 124gr. If you ever have feed or cycling problems, one of the first things their product support will ask you is, "Were you shooting 124gr?"

In other words, if you can't replicate the problem w/ 124gr ammo, then they consider your problem to be w/ your ammo, not the gun.
 
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124g Nato, particularly when breaking in a pistol.
 
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147 for work. I reload 135 for competition and fun.
 
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I shoot 115gr the most, b/c it's the most affordable; however, I prefer 124gr for the reasons others posted already.

Most of my handguns were made in Europe. Euro manufacturers design their 9mm guns around 124gr. Many of their owner's manuals specify to shoot 124gr. If you ever have feed or cycling problems, one of the first things their product support will ask you is, "Were you shooting 124gr?"

In other words, if you can't replicate the problem w/ 124gr ammo, then they consider your problem to be w/ your ammo, not the gun.


I have felt the same way 124 on the high side of velocity has been the standard in Europe where most of our 9mm pistols are designed and/ or built.
For general training and activity with modest accuracy demands, any bullet weight will do, but I always find when seeking best accuracy 124 shoots anywhere from a little to a lot better in multiple guns I have had in multiple brands and types
 
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Always prefer 147gr…..it be subsonic….
 
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124

It works fine in every gun designed for the caliber and if you roll-your-own (cast) your own bullets it uses less lead than 147. There is also plenty of reloading data.


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For carry, either 124 or 147 grain gold dots.

For the range, mostly Blue Bullets 147 grain flat point, and 135TC bullets over titegroup. 3.2 grains titegroup on the 147's, and 3.6 grains of titegroup under the 135's. Both loaded to 1.125" overall, and both turn out about 135 power factor, with low recoil.
 
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I prefer 124gr in my practice and defensive ammo. I keep some practice NATO 124gr on hand as it seems to be in between regular and +p ammo. I also have a fair amount of 147gr defensive ammo on hand as well.


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147 subsonic. I usually shoot suppressed.
 
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Since I shoot a lot of 40S&W, I tend to prefer punchier 9mm loads. Bullet weight doesn't matter as long as it's got some oomph to it. 124 NATO, Lawman, 124 AE are some I like. I tend to stay away from weaker stuff like Blazer Brass and Independence. One I miss is the old 115gr S&B (the red primer seal era and shortly thereafter). I've still got three or four of cases of the stuff but Magtech went and fucked it up after they bought S&B and proceeded to water it down.


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Handloading for accuracy I have found the 115 grain to be more accurate than 124 grain using a rest. Loads with Power Pistol powder. In both a CZ Shadow 2 and a Sig P210, 2 of the more accurate pistols I own.


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124, then 115, then 147.
 
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I carry 147 gr HST - it's what we issue.



 
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124gr NATO for practice. Winchester Ranger T 124gr +P for SD.
 
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I reload, so for practice I shoot precision bullets 115grains.

They are cast bullets much like bayou bullets but covered in black stuff…I use them in 40 for USPSA in my STI Edge.

But I use Speer gold dots in carry guns.
124 grain SGD for 9mm
125 grain SGD for 357mag
135 grain SGD for 38spl



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To answer your 9mm practice/target shooting question; 147gr with my Glock, RIA pistols. My Hi Power doesn't like 147 and prefers 115 round nose.

Off topic, my Ruger Carbine PCC also prefers 115 round nose served up in a un-glamorous Glock stick mag.
 
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When I reloaded and shot in competition, I always preferred the heaviest standard bullet weight in each caliber, because I like the recoil characteristics better (heavy and slow, vs light and fast). In .45, it was 230gr, 9mm was 147gr, and 10mm 200gr. The 9mm 147gr also has the plus of being subsonic at competition load levels. I never used a suppressor, but subsonic is there for those who do.



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