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Mainly a Mainer |
Could be. I'm not sure. Honestly, that's why I was asking, just out of curiosity. | |||
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Banned. This ex-member has a history of failing to deliver on goods and promises |
I'm also curious, if the slide of the P220 Elite Carry is too short to handle the recoil/ pressures/ energy of the 10mm, perhaps I need to retire my S&W 1076s and My Bren Ten Special Forces? Seriously, with the advanced metallurgy and technology that has gone into the P220 series, why not an Elite Carry? Is the simple answer that BarSto wants to keep the initial run simple? | |||
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I can't see spend all that money for a Sig 10mm, when a $500 Glock 10mm will do about the same thing. I'm not a 10mm nut. I like 45 ACP and 357 Mag. | |||
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Casuistic Thinker and Daoist |
unless i'm mistaken, i think the point of the thread wasn't about the value of a 10mm conversion of a sig 220, but to determine how much demand, with an accurate price point, there was for a custom conversion of a sig 220 to 10mm. No, Daoism isn't a religion | |||
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You would need to know a bit about the internals and how to swap out certain parts, and you would need a second slide, but yeah it can be done. ------------------------------ ------------------------------------------- Scott @ Apex ------------------------------------------- "Own enough guns that your wife will never notice a gun or 2 being added or taken away from the collection." Leonard Novak - "Thee Gambler" (SASS) ------------------------------------------------ My guides to Sig Lubrication: http://www.apextactical.com/bl...-sauer-pistol-rails/ http://www.apextactical.com/bl...nternal-lubrication/ | |||
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The big difference is the material which the frame is made from. Plastic being more flexible than Aluminum will flex and rebound when the slide smacks into the frame with enough force to rip the Mount Everest from the face of the earth. I haven't personally seen the footage of a GLOCK 10mm under recoil, but I would be willing to guess that the slide twists and flexes like a wind sock. I've seen high speed footage of the P220 in 45 and it flexes pretty good. The big thing is that the take down lever and locking block insert take up all the recoil and wee need to make sure those parts will hold up to GGI standards. ------------------------------ ------------------------------------------- Scott @ Apex ------------------------------------------- "Own enough guns that your wife will never notice a gun or 2 being added or taken away from the collection." Leonard Novak - "Thee Gambler" (SASS) ------------------------------------------------ My guides to Sig Lubrication: http://www.apextactical.com/bl...-sauer-pistol-rails/ http://www.apextactical.com/bl...nternal-lubrication/ | |||
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Yes the long slide does help, it'll be heavier and give us better ability to manage the recoil. ------------------------------ ------------------------------------------- Scott @ Apex ------------------------------------------- "Own enough guns that your wife will never notice a gun or 2 being added or taken away from the collection." Leonard Novak - "Thee Gambler" (SASS) ------------------------------------------------ My guides to Sig Lubrication: http://www.apextactical.com/bl...-sauer-pistol-rails/ http://www.apextactical.com/bl...nternal-lubrication/ | |||
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Momentarily, it's an issue with slide mass and recoil springs. As stated in another post I just made, the locking block insert and take down lever take all the impact from the recoil of the 10mm cartridge. The problem is making the gun so that it will last. ------------------------------ ------------------------------------------- Scott @ Apex ------------------------------------------- "Own enough guns that your wife will never notice a gun or 2 being added or taken away from the collection." Leonard Novak - "Thee Gambler" (SASS) ------------------------------------------------ My guides to Sig Lubrication: http://www.apextactical.com/bl...-sauer-pistol-rails/ http://www.apextactical.com/bl...nternal-lubrication/ | |||
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Mainly a Mainer |
Ahh, gotcha'. Makes sense. Thanks for that reply, Flork, | |||
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IIRC, the stock P220 recoil spring is 20lbs. That would give the 24lb spring a 20% increase in resistance to the 28% increase in PF (using Sigfreund's numbers of 182 and 234 for .45 and Doubletap 10mm respectively). Shooting DTs out of my 5" Kimber, I run a Wolff 22lb spring - an increase of 38% over the 16lb spring that Kimber uses for their .45. I notice that Wolff doesn't offer a higher spring rating than 24lb for the 220 on their website. Even if you could install a heavier spring, I'm not sure how easy it would be to rack the slide. "When I held that gun in my hand, I felt a surge of power...like God must feel... when he's holding a gun!" H. Simpson. | |||
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Resident BoneCrusher |
I have a GGI 220ST....but it'll cost you an arm and a leg | |||
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Start exporting them to New Zealand, and I'll personally shove the money in your pocket! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - P226R - 9mm Glock 20 - 10mm Auto Desert Eagle - 44 Magnum If you haven't solved your problem with fifteen rounds, a pistol was an inappropriate choice for the scenario! | |||
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With the glock it would have to be a combination of increased slide weight, recoil spring tension, slide flex and frame flex. I have a G20 already on order....gotta go with what is proven....but export some here and I'll buy it for sure! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - P226R - 9mm Glock 20 - 10mm Auto Desert Eagle - 44 Magnum If you haven't solved your problem with fifteen rounds, a pistol was an inappropriate choice for the scenario! | |||
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Damn. I swear this forum is gonna get me divorced!! VERY interested in a P220 Elite Stainless in 10mm!!! I guess its time to start tracking down an Elite. --------------- Jeffrey P365 - GGI P220ST 10mm - Sig Mosquito - Various Others "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. " - Thomas Jefferson | |||
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Don't allow it to come to divorce. Tell her the 10mm Elite is a gift for her and just play it that way. That's what I would do if I were married. My Late Uncle Leonard(the guy who got me into shooting) gave me the following advise for my choice of hobbies and my future with a woman. "Own enough guns that your wife will never notice a gun or 2 being added or taken away from the collection." Man, that's good advise. I miss my Uncle. ------------------------------ ------------------------------------------- Scott @ Apex ------------------------------------------- "Own enough guns that your wife will never notice a gun or 2 being added or taken away from the collection." Leonard Novak - "Thee Gambler" (SASS) ------------------------------------------------ My guides to Sig Lubrication: http://www.apextactical.com/bl...-sauer-pistol-rails/ http://www.apextactical.com/bl...nternal-lubrication/ | |||
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Scott, That should be your new signature line. | |||
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Just out of curiosity, then what is the likelihood down the road of possibly trying the SigPro? No takedown lever to be concerned about... ============================== On the fields of friendly strife are sown the seeds that on other days and other fields will bear the fruits of victory. Gen. Douglas MacArthur | |||
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Runnin' home to some small Ohio town |
That's been my plan for a while now. Although when I first started dating my wife, I had sold off my collection (due to my first wife ). All I had was my MKII and a shottie. For my birthday one year (still dating), she hands me a Series 70 Colt...She has no idea how many I have now Man I love my wife __________________________Law Enforcement can visit our website at www.stdlaw.net __________________________ | |||
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I don't believe the magazine well in the SP series pistols is long enough to handle the 10mm, but I can take a look at one. If there were a SP in 44, I'd totally carry one...............Oh there's an idea, I'll have to look into that one. ------------------------------ ------------------------------------------- Scott @ Apex ------------------------------------------- "Own enough guns that your wife will never notice a gun or 2 being added or taken away from the collection." Leonard Novak - "Thee Gambler" (SASS) ------------------------------------------------ My guides to Sig Lubrication: http://www.apextactical.com/bl...-sauer-pistol-rails/ http://www.apextactical.com/bl...nternal-lubrication/ | |||
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Stu, I love your wife too.............I don't personally know her, but she must be a heck of a sweetie to put up with you. ------------------------------ ------------------------------------------- Scott @ Apex ------------------------------------------- "Own enough guns that your wife will never notice a gun or 2 being added or taken away from the collection." Leonard Novak - "Thee Gambler" (SASS) ------------------------------------------------ My guides to Sig Lubrication: http://www.apextactical.com/bl...-sauer-pistol-rails/ http://www.apextactical.com/bl...nternal-lubrication/ | |||
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