I am a Beretta guy through and through. Side by side the 84 wins every category that starts with looks and sex appeal. Until you start shooting. The Cheetahs aren’t soft shooters at all. Next to a locked breech 380 they are night and day difference. I will be curious to hear your shooting impressions. Buy a 32 barrel ( model 81 I believe) and reload then the Cheetahs are a blast.

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I am a Beretta guy through and through. Side by side the 84 wins every category that starts with looks and sex appeal. Until you start shooting. The Cheetahs aren’t soft shooters at all. Next to a locked breech 380 they are night and day difference. I will be curious to hear your shooting impressions. Buy a 32 barrel ( model 81 I believe) and reload then the Cheetahs are a blast.

I bought the 84BB for giggles, I missed having a Beretta in the safe.

I'll look into a 32 barrel and mag to run in it.
The 2.0 certainly couldn't be harder to rack the slide than that 84BB.

I wish I could find a way to date the pistol, but so far, my internet searches, as well as contacting Beretta, have given me nothing.

Apologies for the thread drift...

I held a 2.0 at the store Thursday and it felt so tiny compared to my 365. I'm still intrigued though. The only thing holding me back is the .380 round. I don't have anything else in that caliber and at this point I'd hate to get another one.

My experience has been great, the only negative in my hands is slide bite if I shoot it thumbs forward.

The Bodyguard 2.0 is a fantastic firearm. I have handled them in stores for months, but finally ended up with one recently and find it to be an exceptional firearm. Certainly the best .380 ACP pistol I have fired and it beats out many small 9mm pistols, including the P365 and G43. It's a smooth and fast shooting pistol. The .380 ACP is not my first choice, but when you factor capacity, accuracy, and conceal ability it makes it a much more comfortable decision. There isn't a single fault I can find with it, it shoots great, and I will carry with confidence.

The Smith and Wesson forum has numerous threads on issues with this new pistol. Check them before purchasing.

They do but most of those issues are basically nonsense. Let me summarize.

Mags are hard to load. No shit.
Tiny sights are regulated to shoot left. Drift the sights.
RSA is tough to install because the spring comes out from under the end. True, but it’s a ridiculously easy 5 second adjust to make it a non issue.

I got 4 of these. Easily the best 380 on the market. Good capacity, great size, good sights, great ergos for a tiny gun. You can bang out 10+1 into a tiny group easier than any 380 I have ever shot with the exception of the 238. Except that ain’t 10+1. lol

Those guys on that forum would find something to complain about a blow job.

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They do but most of those issues are basically nonsense. Let me summarize.

Mags are hard to load. No shit.
Tiny sights are regulated to shoot left. Drift the sights.
RSA is tough to install because the spring comes out from under the end. True, but it’s a ridiculously easy 5 second adjust to make it a non issue.

I got 4 of these. Easily the best 380 on the market. Good capacity, great size, good sights, great ergos for a tiny gun. You can bang out 10+1 into a tiny group easier than any 380 I have ever shot with the exception of the 238. Except that ain’t 10+1. lol

Those guys on that forum would find something to complain about a blow job.

I'm considering getting one.
I just need to go to the range and rent it.
It has to shoot better than my LCP.

Did you find that your pistols had the sight issue or is a random thing?

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I'm considering getting one.
I just need to go to the range and rent it.
It has to shoot better than my LCP.

Did you find that your pistols had the sight issue or is a random thing?

I did have to tap my front sight over a bit to center it, the rear was fine.

I haven't touched my LCP II since breaking in my BG 2.0; it's significantly more comfortable to draw and shoot, without giving up any concealability (I always carried the LCP w/a 7 round magazine)

I have access to 5 of these maybe 6. (I talked my buddy and his bil into one) It is a factory issue. Every stinking one of these shoots left. They got the regulation wrong. I’m the sight pro guy so I have drifted all of them. The only gotcha is that the slide is so narrow that if you just drift the rear sight it is visibly drifted to your eye. That bugged me so I have since ended up drifting rear sight slightly right and the front sight slightly left. You end up poi/poa and it “looks” right.

S&W could do themselves a favor and acknowledge this at the factory level. Those complainers on the other forum aren’t wrong but it’s just not a hard fix. Drift the sights once and you never have an issue again.

Let me expand on why I love these. I owned the original Bodyguard 380. Ugh. Those kind of sucked. This thing is a locked breech 380 which means the recoil impulse is like a hopped up 22, ie nothing. Nobody is developing a flinch with this. 10+1 as fast as you can hold on target. I would shoot this gun even more than I do if ammo was 9mm cheap.

Don’t hesitate on this one. It is easily best in class. I have manual safety and non. I use the MS version if I appendix, that’s just my thing. It’s a small MS but very distinct. Pick one up you will either be fine with it or HATE it. Honestly I mostly carry behind the hip lately so the slick side might be my first choice.

If you run into the RSA reassembly issue, I can talk you through a 5 second works every time fix. S&W should fix this too but did you hear me say it’s a 5 second fix that works every time? lol

One of my MS versions lost the safety “notch”. Gun still worked but safety could come off with a hard bump. No bueno. Factory fixed that no problems since.

Slide is tiny it’s harder to rack simply because, well, it’s tiny. These aren’t real issues.

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FWIW the one I shot definitely shot to the left. The rear sight is visibly off center in the dovetail and it will be an easy fix.

Recently picked one up and checked the sights by shooting at an 8" paper plate from 20', bench rested. Couldn't hit the plate, all shots very wide left. Ended up drifting the front sight .025 left and hit center of plate with 10 quick shots. Rear sight was dead center. (Measurements checked with caliper). Other than that (and breaking in the magazines), very cool little pistol. If MagGuts would just make a steel follower to replace the plastic one, that would probably solve the mag loading problem.

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I've got one now. The main thing I HATE about it is the rear sight with the 2 mile wide rear sight aperture space. WTF? It should shoot better, more accurate than my shorter Kahr CW380 because it's a bigger gun, but it doesn't because the rear sight sucks so bad. I will replace these sights soon with the XS sights or whomever else has a rear sight that isn't such trash. Bugs me to have to spend another $120ish dollars to fix something that has been perfected on every other pistol in the universe including a damn High Point pistol. If they want ghost ring width aperture size rear, then put on a damn ghost ring.

I wish I didn't get the safety model as it's a joke. It will not go on without using the other hand to pull up on both lever sides of the pistol safety at the same time, and its STILL HARD to put on. Luckily I can get it to go off with just thumb, but putting on is a joke. True, there's never a rush need to put the safety on compared to taking it off, but needing both hands and thick calluses is carrying it way to far,

The recoil spring assembly is now sticking out too far out the front of pistol. Works/shoots fine otherwise. Wasn't that way initially but is now. While it doesn't affect anything but looks, I pay for looks as much as anything else, and the recoil assembly sticking too far out the front offends the shit out of me. Yes I know how to put it in properly and check for internal hangups that could push it outwards, but there is none. S&W is sending me a new one at least and all I did was email them about the issue.

Has been reliable with the ammo I have for it, namely Gold Dot 380, but like I mentioned, I can still shoot my smaller Kahr CW380 better since it has proper width size sights. The Kahr is also a slightly better pocket pistol because of smaller/thinner size and with 7+1 (6 normally, but I have Magguts spring/follower in it) the 3 shot difference is minimal. I can live with the stupid rediculously-hard-to-put-on safety and even the recoil spring assembly sticking out the front too far, but I can't deal with the horribly wide rear sight aperture.

I have the XS Sight RD3 2.0 sights on the way now, but it still erks the hell out me that I have to spend an extra $100 to fix the sight issue that should NOT exist to begin with. FYI, the cheapest I could find the sights were at Tactical Wholesalers for $94.99 ($110ish after 10 ship and $5 tax) and yes that's at least $30 cheaper than everywhere else i looked for the sights. Hopefully they are not a scam website! :-)

I wound up buying the BG 2.0 for the wife a couple months ago and then bought the BG 2.0 Comped model a few days ago and am quite impressed by them both. The comped model does have a slightly noticeable difference with recoil, in fact so much so the wife has declared it hers and I got the standard model. They are amazingly accurate for their size and compared to my Glock 42, the BG 2.0 has the Glock beat in many ways-capacity, easier to conceal in the pocket or waist band, better grip and recoils the same. They both have digested everything I put through them with both fmj and jhp.

I agree with the rear sight being wider than it needs to be and hope eventually a rear sight is made like a Glock, with the goal post to give it a better sight picture. The comped model has a front night sight with a yellow ring around it, in order to draw your eyes to it a lot quicker, which is something I appreciate as I get older.

I also bought the new S&W Shield "X" and only mention this as it has a nice set of sights, with the same front night sight with yellow ring around it as the BG 2.0 but has a "U" shape blacked out rear, for a better picture than the BG 2.0.

Xero, let us know if you get the sights as I am interested as well.

I don't know what it is w/ these new 1.5 stack micro .380s, but the Ruger LCP Max, which preceded the BG 2.0, also has a very wide rear sight.

I have a slight interest in this gun, I have heard the sights are not that great. I wonder if the Ameriglo night sights on the recent Comp Carry will improve the sight picture. $100 more for the sights, a slightly longer slide (a hair over 1/4"), and perhaps a useless comp/port.

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If you run into the RSA reassembly issue, I can talk you through a 5 second works every time fix. S&W should fix this too but did you hear me say it’s a 5 second fix that works every time? lol

Is this the fix?

I picked up the comp version just a week ago, so far its a heater. I carry in a pocket locker, and can echo the comments on the rough grip surfaces.

The safety does take some guff to engage, but i haven't had any issues on the draw disengaging it. I wish it protruded a bit more, no comparison to the safety on my 365. I have a torn piece of skin on my thumb from about 40 draw drills. The rough texture on the safety helps to guarantee good contact.

its impressive as thin as it is, i can still get a reassuring grip on it - i carried a kahr for a couple years and this feels a lot better in the hand

Basically yes. I have never seen the end of the spring go past the “cap”. In that video the spring was riding along the side of the cap. It won’t compress like that. You can push and push and nothing. His fix is correct but I don’t use a tool, I just take my fingernail and push the end of the spring under the cap. Once you do that, 5 seconds, it will install perfectly.

As for comments above, the cap quite visibly extends out the front of the frame. If you look at S&W literature their pictures show this as well. I don’t think this is an issue. If your OCD causes it to bother you then I would respectfully say you shouldn’t buy $399 plastic guns. They don’t ace the aesthetic vibe.

Sights. I can bang small steel gongs at 25 yards all day with this gun. I can make 15 yard groups that I can cover with my palm. I’m not exactly sure what the hang up is. My original BG, LCP’s, Max’s, PPK/S’s, etc didn’t come with good sights. Most if not all didn’t come with nights sights. They didn’t have a colored plug around the front tritium vial for daytime. These are great sights for a tiny gun. A wide rear notch might not be your preference but the angst doesn’t equal the performance. I actually think this whole subject is comical. If you go on Dawson sights website they literally will sell you extra narrow front blades because in their words it is more precise to have a bigger gap. Here you have the bigger gap by increasing the rear notch and suddenly everyone loses their minds. If I didn’t own a bunch of these (because they are best of breed easily) maybe I would question the sights but I have shot these in tight out to 25 yards. Only pocket gun that rivals this across the board is a 238 or maybe a 42 at significantly less capacity.

There are different sight options out there if you do your homework. I think this “issue” isn’t the handicap the Internet makes it out to be.

I am no Annie Oakley. I can cloverleaf this gun at 10 yards. The sights work just fine. Everybody has a preference but the sights aren’t the limiting factor on this gun.

Edited to clarify. I said Dawson. I meant Trijicon. “Local and federal law enforcement and pistol shooters that need the advantage of a more precise engagement in any light can count on the Trijicon HD XR™ Night Sights”. The XR sights are exactly the same but a thinner front blade to give more light on either side. If you aren’t hitting its not the sights. lol If you don’t believe Trijicon then I don’t know what to tell you.

^^^^ Thanks.