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Double action to single action to me as always the proverbial answer in search of a question. A pistol with one trigger function and feel that doesn't get in the way, that has a minimum of controls requiring fine motor skills under pressure, no manual safety, and is ready to go the moment it clears leather, is a good start. I don't care if it has a striker. I have no idea what the attraction is for a concealed pistol with an external hammer, or why someone would want a double action to single action trigger system, except to match their assigned duty pistol. The external hammer on concealment isn't a step forward. Reducing the ability to snag or malfunction is, though. Personally, I'd much rather do away with a decocker or safety. | |||
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I have been shooting handguns for 50 years, I am not afraid to carry a striker fired pistol, however half the time that I carry I am doing manual labor, cutting wood, working on machinery...or I am driving equipment, in and out of cabs 30 or 40 tines a day. .. I feel much more at ease with a DA/SA or a DA revolver...Also I have many less experienced friends that will carry a striker pistol with no round in the chamber...A DA/SA might be a better option for them. | |||
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Good to see other new options out there that aren't "lowest common denominator " triggers. I liked the feel of the new Springer. Despite their politics. | |||
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| Doing what I want, When I want, If I want!  |
It's a Springfield....... Fuck Them! ******************************************** "On the other side of fear you will always find freedom" | |||
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Your opinion of pistol action aside, people want this. It's not a step backwards, it's filling a pretty big hole in the market. I carry a Glock or an xds. But the treacherous DA th SA transition is way over blown. I have a SIG or 2 also. ----------------------------------------------------------- TCB all the time... | |||
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They're also filling a hole nobody else is mentioning - the LES slide. This is a STRONG candidate to replace the Walther CCP my wife carries. The primary reason she carries that is their low effort slide but it also has a safety. While I've had no reliability issues with the CCP (at least while using quality ammo), I'd have far more confidence in a SA product. I am not BIPOLAR. I don't even like bears. | |||
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This will be a huge selling point to my wife as well. She likes her 238 because the slide is easy to rack. Anything else is tough for her. I am a big fan of DA/SA and don't mind the hammer. Having a decock and safely is a plus for me as I have only carried Sigs or 1911 style pistols. I also agree that this fills a huge hole in the carry segment. Whether it translates to sales we will see. I would love to see s 320 single stack that utilizes current FCUs. One can dream I guess | |||
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| We gonna get some oojima in this house! |
Thank you for your contribution to this thread. Amazing the insight that you brought. ----------------------------------------------------------- TCB all the time... | |||
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Before you jump on Beltfed21 for his extremely accurate post, I suggest that you open your eyes a little. A little thing called "Proximate Cause". There's a reason. There's always a reason. Beltfed21 isn't just going to fly off the handle because his Tourette's meds wore off. (Hint: https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...0601935/m/4860044324 ) Oh... It's a Springfield.... So yeah, FUCK THEM! ______________________________________________________________________ "When its time to shoot, shoot. Dont talk!" “What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms and killing people. It’s not good at much else.” —Author Tom Clancy | |||
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Cigar Nerd |
Its Illinois, Fuck them. There will be whores, tits and sex. | |||
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| Doing what I want, When I want, If I want! |
CPD SIG, Thanks for the defense! I just assumed that everyone on Sig Forum knew what was going on with SA and RRA selling us out to the anti gun folks for their own gain. I thought wrong. Some still have their heads buried in the sand or are doing internal audits I guess. Enough said, I'm done here. ******************************************** "On the other side of fear you will always find freedom" | |||
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SA's poor decision making aside, I'm interested in a small hammer fired pistol, I just don't want the traditional da/sa trigger. I'd like to see something like HK's lem light trigger. You've got the hammer and a decent trigger pull. Just work on removing some of that take up and its a good alternative to a striker fired gun. No one's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session.- Mark Twain | |||
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| We gonna get some oojima in this house! |
No relevance to the thread. It's called thread crapping. ----------------------------------------------------------- TCB all the time... | |||
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Nullus Anxietas |
In your opinion. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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Drill Here, Drill Now |
Disagree. They've crapped on the 2nd Amendment thru the trade assoc they hold 50% of the director positions (RRA has 25% of directorships). Additionally, info has come to light that for 5 years they have been giving money to Anti-2A politicians. Therefore, their new DA/SA product offering gets to be reviewed alongside their treachery. Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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| addicted to trailing-throttle oversteer |
I agree. Springfield's political favoring and backroom dealing puts them on my BANNED list, regardless of how good any one of their guns might be. They're sellouts and in the course of their actions allowed the good citizenry of Illinois to potentially be screwed over; there's zero getting around that. If some of you want to continue to deal with them, that's your business...and conscience. But frankly as far as I'm concerned, those who fall into that group should be ashamed to call themselves pro-gun people. | |||
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Frangas non Flectes |
Negative. I might be interested in this pistol, but SA's politics precludes my doing business with them. This kind of "thread crapping" ought to happen in every venue Springfield's products are advertised. Consumers deserve to know who, and what they're supporting with their dollars, even if they "don't agree with their politics." ______________________________________________ “There are plenty of good reasons for fighting, but no good reason ever to hate without reservation, to imagine that God Almighty Himself hates with you, too.” | |||
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We have members who are interested in this pistol. I care not that this offends anyone here. There's a thread going in the Lounge where you can bitch all you like about SA, Inc. This thread is going to remain open and no further comments about the mess of a situation in Illinois should be posted in it. Now, we were discussing handguns. Please proceed if you wish. ____________________________________________________ "I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023 | |||
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I thought it had a crappy trigger and looked like Frankenstein. The slide is super high. ----------------------------------------- Roll Tide! Glock Certified Armorer NRA Certified Firearms Instructor | |||
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