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| For fucks sake, the gun was in a holster designed for a different gun and if I read lawyer speak correctly there was an object inside the holster as well.
This gun didn’t malfunction. |
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| quote: Originally posted by pedropcola:
For fucks sake, the gun was in a holster designed for a different gun and if I read lawyer speak correctly there was an object inside the holster as well.
This gun didn’t malfunction.
Hey here’s a cool concept: those of you that believe in the platform carry it, those thatt don’t don’t. I am not! |
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| quote: Originally posted by HCM:
The "upgrades" IME are all over the place in terms of what was or wasn't done to them and what parts are or are not in them.
Here is the best example. This is from a local PD officer/armorer who also acts as an FI/Armorer for his local church security team. Gun is question was a 10/2017 built P320 which was bought new, subsequently sent in for upgrade and then had an unintentional discharge in a vehicle. It was initially thought to be a negligent discharge but examination of the gun showed it was likely an accidental discharge:
Original build date of 10/2017. I entered the s/n into Sig's website "upgrade" checker and it came up good to go per Sig.
However.......
The dual sear springs were crossed and not putting correct pressure up on the foot of the striker
Despite the upgrade the gun still had an older style sear that lacks the nipples or posts that the springs slip over to keep them aligned. It has dimples instead....and apparently, whoever assembled it in 10/17 did so in a hurry because the sear springs were crossed.
The gun also still had the spring that retracts the lever that lifts the striker block, i.e. the spring that Sig no longer installs in recent builds. I feel certain that I now know why.
The spring that retracts the lever that lifts the striker block, was a little hosed up. My thoughts are that the striker block lever was "stuck" in the upward position, combined with a striker foot not held by proper dual spring tension, and when our guy holstered, when his pistol clicked down and seated, the striker slipped from the sear and fell forward....discharging the round.
Examination of other guns from the same general time this one was build shows they all have the newer style sear with spring posts instead of the dimples. Even if an error occurred during the original build, it should have been caught during the upgrade.
I do believe the current production 320's are mechanically safe, but I'm leary of the "upgraded" originals unless checked by a competent armorer.
Thanks HCM. While I am confident in my P320s and have been a proponent of the platform here, yours is the first post that has actually documented specific mechanical issues with a P320 involved in an ND. From your description of the condition of the gun, I'd agree that your conclusion is plausible. It makes me want to check if my upgraded P320 has the updated sear with the posts or if it just has dimples. I know that gun did have the striker safety lever spring still installed when it came back from getting the upgrade...I have since removed that. |
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| Except this thread has nothing to do with “preferences”. The title literally infers a malfunction. Any fucking reading of the facts don’t point credibly to a malfunction. At all. They modified a 226 holster and apparently a foreign object was inside holster when it “just went off”. Complete fucking nonsense that could have occurred to any gun. It’s like saying your car sucks because you put olive oil in it and it didn’t run. Shocker.
Have all the preferences you want but at least be intellectually honest. This event wasn’t a malfunction. |
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