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Am I the only one that had no idea this was coming? Optic ready to boot..

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I saw a S&W rep at a demo day less than two weeks ago. He didn't hint at all about a new 10mm, so I too am taken by surprise. He did say that more M&Ps were on the way w/ the new trigger that was introduced in the Shield Plus, so that trigger in the M&P 10mm is greatly welcome.
 
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I don't want one, but I still want one.




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I don't want one, but I still want one.


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I've been thinking a my safe needs a 10mm.

Wonder what the recoil is like for a pistol not all metal.
 
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Damn, i just declared that i had everything i wanted. I have been waiting way too long for Smith to make this not to get one
 
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28 ozs for a 10 mm is quite light. The recoil should be unique, I'll stick with my 44 oz Sig.
 
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Damn, i just declared that i had everything i wanted.

I've done that a couple times through the years.

I don't do that anymore

I've currently three 1911's or 2011's in my sights. One is a distinct possibility. (Mainly a question of "Do I really want this?") Another is possible, but more than a little unlikely. The third is entirely out of the question unless I hit the lottery Smile

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28 ozs for a 10 mm is quite light. The recoil should be unique, ...

It'll be stout, but nobody buys such a thing to play with on the range Smile

I shot a buddy's G29 (32 oz, loaded) with full-load hard-cast a number of years back. It was stout, but not unmanageable.

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... I'll stick with my 44 oz Sig.

I can't find the weight spec for my Kimber Custom II GFO, but a regular Kimber Custom II in .45 ACP weighs 38 oz. unloaded. Shooting full-load hard-cast out of it is no more challenging than shooting my Gov't 1911 in .45 ACP, really.




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It's long overdue for S&W. I have no need for one & I hope to God they don't put these triggers on all their M&P line. I LOVE my M&P's but I absolutely hate that blade in trigger system.


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Guess that means that I won't need that P320 that will finally come six years after never. Wink


 
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I keep looking at that little thing and thinking..."Why?" I guess I'll keep waiting for the 320F. :P
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but I absolutely hate that blade in trigger system.

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I’ve never had much interest in a 10mm polymer frame pistol, but this definately has my attention. I’ve got a 10mm 1911 but I’ve always like the M&P line. I was never a fan of the Shield but I picked up a plus and can’t believe how much better it is for me. If it’s the same trigger as the Plus, it’ll be a sweet gun.
 
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I was never a fan of the Shield but I picked up a plus and can’t believe how much better it is for me. If it’s the same trigger as the Plus, it’ll be a sweet gun.

Same boat here. I had a Shield 1.0 in 9mm and hated it. I recently picked up a Shield Plus on a whim, didn't expect to like it, but it won me over.

I just watched TFB TV's review, and unfortunately the M&P 10's trigger is different than the Shield Plus'. Although it is also flat-faced, it has a heavier pull and longer reset.

The frame & internals are identical to M&P 45, so I'm guessing an Apex trigger kit would work.
 
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Guess that means that I won't need that P320 that will finally come six years after never. Wink


And herein lies the problem for Sig...they've missed the boat. Everyone else has one now, and nobody needs them.

I don't like M&Ps, and I don't like XDs. I don't think they're bad guns, but neither of them do anything for me. I am ok with Glocks, but as a reloader I can't justify a gun that bulges expensive, hard to source brass and won't shoot cast bullets. Plus the G20/29 are kinda huge.

As such, I'm still waiting on the 10mm P320. It may never happen, but even if it does, Sig is going to be playing catch-up in an already saturated market.
 
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I've been feeling a 10MM itch lately I just have no idea why.
 
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I had a Glock 40 in 10mm a few years ago and enjoyed it. It was going to be my new deer hunting pistol as Ohio can use straight walled cartridges on top of shotgun slugs for hunting.
Never used it for deer hunting and eventually sold it.
This looks interesting and I've always kinda liked M&P's.


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28 ozs for a 10 mm is quite light. The recoil should be unique, I'll stick with my 44 oz Sig.


Virtually the same weight as a Glock 20 which is a pleasure to shoot.

I like that it is optics ready.




 
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[A]n already saturated market.


You make some good points, but there is another side to that situation.
I may be in the minority, but I would not purchase a 10mm Glock or this latest offering by S&W because I don’t have enough need or desire for a pistol chambered for the cartridge for me to hold my nose and ignore what I don’t like about those guns. A P320, though? Without any hesitation—except for one thing, and that’s availability of ammunition. And not just any ammunition, but ammunition that’s not just a little more potent than the cases of 40 S&W cartridges that I already own and have guns for.

(FWIW, at one time I would have purchased a 10mm P220 if I had been able to find one with the proper combination of features, and that caveat would also apply to any future purchase of a 10mm P320. Offered only with elevated sights? Nope, not for me.)

If the market is “saturated,” then that means there’s a greater likelihood it would also be possible to find loads worthy of the 10mm Auto’s reputation for power.




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except for one thing, and that’s availability of ammunition. And not just any ammunition, but ammunition that’s not just a little more potent than the cases of 40 S&W cartridges that I already own and have guns for.

(FWIW, at one time I would have purchased a 10mm P220 if I had been able to find one with the proper combination of features, and that caveat would also apply to any future purchase of a 10mm P320.)


I reload, so availability of specific loads doesn't really bother me. So long as I can get brass, bullets, and primers, I can make what I want. I have plenty of guns that have never eaten a round of factory ammo, so that wouldn't be out of the norm for me.

Sig's ability to provide the options that I want IS a factor, though. I was excited about the 10mm P220, but when they released it, it was only sold as an upmarket model, such as the Legion, Elite, camo-hunter-extravaganza, etc. I just wanted a basic gun, as I don't want to/can't afford to spend a bunch extra on the "upgrades" that come with those models. But Sig never offered a basic 10mm Nitron P220. If you wanted one you had to pay for the extra fluff. Looking at their 2021 catalog, that's a disease that seems to have spread to the entire product line. It's hard to find just a basic gun anymore...the marketing idiots are trying to shove "battleworn" finishes, optics cuts (often pre-filled with their re-branded Chinese optics that I'm sure they're making 90% markup on), and "x-grips" down our throats, to the point that the affordable base model Nitron guns are nowhere to be found.

I hope this isn't the case with the 10mm, if they ever release it, as I want just a basic compact model P320, maybe with night sights (I do like the prominent green front dot that they put on their "x-ray" sights). It'll be a woods gun, so size and weight are key, and I don't want a bunch of extra stuff hanging off of it.
 
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