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I approve as well. My EDC. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Yidn, shreibt un fershreibt" "The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind." -Bomber Harris | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
I'll play Someday, I'll get around to an M13, though they've gotten so expensive, I'd have to work a trade. | |||
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An investment in knowledge pays the best interest |
Sure wish a firearm manufacturer would do the obvious and remake the pistol, sans the grip safety, with a trigger bar safety instead... and keep it all metal. I'm sure someone will pipe in and say "but, but that would cost more than polymer". No shit, but the new manufacturer could charge more - evidenced by high prices used P7 models fetch and a revised model could be superior in some ways. | |||
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Not exactly a grip safety. Squeezing the grip cocks the action and releasing it de-cocks the action. Also, it releases the slide if it is locked back after a mag change. "The world is too dangerous to live in-not because of the people who do evil, but because of the people who sit and let it happen." (Albert Einstein) | |||
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Great pictures of your HK P7 Parabellum. I think it is one of the most aesthetic pistol designed. HK could remake just as Colt remade the Python but probably the Marketing Department says it would interfere with current production models. "Marketing" sometimes these folks have little imagination and innovation. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Democracy is 2 Wolves & a Lamb debating the lunch menu. Liberty is a well armed Lamb! | |||
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Please tell me about the magazine -- is that a CCR refinish? Here's my P7 story. It was quite a while ago, maybe ten years or so, that Steve (dancing tomato) had some for sale. I organized a group of four, three friends and me, to each buy a P7 from Steve. My first nice holster was the first P7 holster that Ryan Grizzle made. I really liked that P7, but as prices for these kept going up, I sold mine, in a moment of incredible stupidity, almost immediately followed by seller's remorse. I really regretted selling that pistol. Then, about a year ago, I did a few favors for one of the other guys in the gang of four who made the group purchase. He was not as crazy about the pistol as I was, so he offered to trade it to me for a P938. I took him up on the offer, and now have a P7 just like the one that I stupidly sold. I have no intention of selling this one, ever, but I will be revising my will soon, for other reasons, and I will include the disposition of this pistol in the revised will. As of now, I would like to find one or two more magazines; I had a few, but sold them when I sold the first P7. הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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A question for you P7 shooters: What type ammunition do you find is the most reliable for this pistol? I have a hazy memory of somebody suggesting 124 gr NATO. Any thoughts on this? הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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A man's got to know his limitations |
Mine have shot all bullet weights reliably but I have never tried 147 gr. "But, as luck would have it, he stood up. He caught that chunk of lead." Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Hathcock "If there's one thing this last week has taught me, it's better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it." Clarence Worley | |||
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Waiting for Hachiko |
I owned one just like yours back in the 90's. Same markings and magazine release. Mine , when clambering a round, would slightly dent the back of each magazine, each time more and more. I bought and tried 2 extra magazines with the same result. The P7/PM13 are good guns, but call me blasphemous, but I wasn't as smitten with mine. 美しい犬 | |||
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Told cops where to go for over 29 years… |
I also purchased one of the PSP’s from Steve, a “Grade B”. Seem to recall it was about $575? A little foggy and don’t remember exactly. About three months later a LGS had a used P7M8 in their case for $750. I snapped it up, excellent condition with two mags but no box. Picked up two more new mags for $45 each, so have total of four. I then sold the PSP, for a profit. “Upgrading” to the P7M8 only cost me about $50 out of pocket, and the LGS gave you a month’s free range pass with purchase, so essentially it didn’t cost me a thing. And I love the ad HK did… What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand??? | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
No, that's hard chrome plating. I bought a pair of these from a guy in the late 1990s, about the same time I bought the PSP. That pistol should have gone back to H&K for service. | |||
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I've had a bunch over the years, I never keep them. This is the last one I had | |||
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It's pronounced just the way it's spelled |
P7s are great guns. I bought a PSP from CDNN when they were blowing them out for $500 or so. Accurate, a good trigger, ergonomic (even if they look a little odd uncocked) and ONE control aside from the trigger. Cocking lever, drop safety, manual safety and slide release all rolled into one. The only change I made was wood grips, which made the feel that much better. To the question about what weight bullets, mine prefers 124 grain, not that it is inaccurate with 115 and I’ve heard they can be finicky with 147. | |||
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A man's got to know his limitations |
There are some nice pics of some very nice P7s in this thread. This is my favorite, it was plated by the Robar company, there is a lifetime warranty on the finish in the box with all the papers, tools and test target. Not sure if the previous owner had this done or the importer, it appeared unfired. I like this version of the P7 series with the recessed mag release the best. The later P7M series with the longer trigger guard never looked as good to me. And this is my first P7M8, it was one of the German police imports that had the ugly grind mark on the slide. I sent the slide off to Ford's and they did an awesome job, it looks perfect. About a year later I sent the frame and some mags off to be plated. At the time over 20 years ago, it was the first two-tone P7 I had seen on the Internet. I have shot this one quite a bit and the plastic heat shield doesn't do much in the summer, it still gets pretty hot after a few mags. "But, as luck would have it, he stood up. He caught that chunk of lead." Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Hathcock "If there's one thing this last week has taught me, it's better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it." Clarence Worley | |||
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One of my personal favorites. I continue to be on the hunt for one. _________________________ An unarmed man can only flee from evil and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it. - Col Jeff Cooper NRA Life Member Long Live the Super Thirty-Eight | |||
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Waiting for Hachiko |
I had given up on HK customer service, after gone through having a HK4 repaired previously.. But you are correct, 美しい犬 | |||
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E tan e epi tas |
To be fair back in the day “you really did suck and HK did indeed hate you.” . That said they are phenomenal these days and have been for a while. "Guns are tools. The only weapon ever created was man." | |||
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When Cabelas began selling former German police issued P7s for $500.00 ("A" Condition with box and accessories), I knew a good deal when I saw it. I bought four of these. One was hardchromed and I passed that on to a judge friend of mine that still carries it. Two, I kept "as is" and bought a few extra magazines for, and the last one (which had a finish that had turned purple) I sent off to Robar and had it finished in Np3. I also had new tritium vials inserted in the front and rear sights. I doubt I'll ever give these extraordinary pistols up. "I'm not fluent in the language of violence, but I know enough to get around in places where it's spoken." | |||
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