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Shall Not Be Infringed |
Sooo, just downloaded the revised Form 4 (ATF 5230.4 - revised 09.2019). There are minor changes to page 1, and page 2 is more similar to the 4473 than the previous version. That said, the most likely result of these changes would seem to make it a bit easier/quicker to fill out rather than reducing the processing times. Time will tell....  ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 2024....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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| Green grass and high tides  |
good, thanks for confirming the changes nhracecraft. Once my check is cashed I feel like it could be anyday, l ol."Practice like you want to play in the game" | |||
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For real? |
Everything I have has been in a trust, but I'm thinking about looking into doing a form 4 individual on my next suppressor. I'm at 368 days from check cashed for a suppressor on a form 4 trust. I'm looking into a Dead Air Wolfman or Silencerco Omega 9K for a short 9mm suppressor. Not minority enough! | |||
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Chowser--wait for Sigs new titanium 9 mm suppressor. Modular-light weight . Like you-I am on the lookout for a dedicated 9 mm suppressor. | |||
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Step by step walk the thousand mile road |
Its getting better, but any delay is unwarranted. The SOT needs to simply do the usual NICS check and if its is approved the person takes their new AOW, destructive device, machinegun, SBR, and SBS. Supressors ought not be in the NFA taxation scheme. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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| For real? |
Thanks. Will do. Got a call about my Oct '18 trust form 4. Seems something got messed up on the 5320.23. She told me what to fix and said I could email it to her so they wouldn't have to generate an error letter. Not minority enough! | |||
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| Staring back from the abyss  |
Individual form 4 check cashed around the second week of January and got the call yesterday, so right about nine months. Pretty much the same as my last one a few years ago. Still a ridiculously long process but good to know it hasn't increased too much. This time is a Dead Air Mask and Sandman L. ________________________________________________________ "Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton. | |||
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Not sure if this is bogus information but I did have a NFA dealer whom I purchased 2 pistols from say that he has seen a couple customers get tax stamps in approx 3 months recently. So I'm curious if the process time is beginning to improve or if that was a fluke and or lies. | |||
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| hello darkness my old friend  |
paperwork submitted on my suppressor 08-31-2019. got tax stamp and call from dealer 10-26-2019. Oh happy day!!! | |||
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The processing times for individuals seems to be much improved for F4s filed AFTER the beginning of July or so. But, if you were before the cutoff, you’re likely in the “normal” 10 months or so. I just got a stamp for a can that had the check cashed 8/1/19 and approved 10/12/19. However, I have another can that had the check cashed 4 months earlier in April 2019, that was still “pending” when I called last week. It seems like they are accelerating processing for the recent Form 4s, but not doing anything about the backlog. I’m not expecting my April can until early next year. On the flip side, eForm 1s seems to be even faster. 13 days from submitted to approved. | |||
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It definitely looks like the individual Form 4s are fast. I just picked up an MP5 that was submitted on 7/29/2019 with stamp approved on 10/21/2019. I was thinking it would be at least July 2020 before I saw it.  | |||
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I purchased a Sig SRD45 at a Gander Outdoors store over Labor Day weekend, and filed the paperwork on 9/5/19. Received the call on 10/28/19 at 4pm that my stamp was in and I could pick up my can. I was told that Gander was getting expedited reviews as they are closing multiple stores, and that may be why it should come back soon. This was done on a Form 4 Individual submission and I paid my tax with a USPS Money Order. | |||
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Damn those are quick approval times! Anyone with a single-person trust (one trustee, one beneficiary) seeing the same times? Evaluating volume of fire vs. shot placement effectiveness. | |||
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About 320 days for me. E-file through kiosk. Dealer was telling me he has seen some come in only 3 months others 14. | |||
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| For real? |
My ffl called today and said the stamp arrived. So about 13 months. While picking it up we ordered some Aurora II suppressors for fun and I will do it as an individual instead of a trust and see if times are different. Not minority enough! | |||
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| Green grass and high tides |
This indicates a lot better times based on the last three months. Feeling like in the next month two these numbers be reduced dramatically based on on all the new applications getting submitted and figured into the calculations. WE me may be moving into a new era as far as wait times for approvals are concerned. https://www.silencershop.com/atf-wait-times "Practice like you want to play in the game" | |||
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Yeah ... it might be like the old days before Obummer got elected ... I had mailed in two on trusts before he took office and had them both back in 62 days! If you really want something you'll find a way ... ... if you don't you'll find an excuse. I'm really not a "kid" anymore ... but I haven't grown up yet either  | |||
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My OSS is at my dealer. I want to file as an individual this time. Do I only need to do the form 4? no form 23 (responsible persons) since this is not a trust and my name and info will be on the form 4. And finally, can I just print the form 4 with my picture scanned on there or do I need an actual picture taken? TIA | |||
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Received the call from my ffl this morning -- 2 SOCOM cans are out of jail. The process was done via Silencershop's web system. Tax stamp was cashed on 1/8/19 -- therefore a little under 11 months start to finish. | |||
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Trust (1 Responsible Party) DeadAir Odessa-9 Pending: Jan. 07, 2019 Approved: November 09, 2019 307 Days  | |||
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