I think the wolfman is a very nice can. I have a couple. But every can can (see how that sounds like a chorus line) have issues and what we are seeing now is deadair CS is just fubared.
I'd not suggest you get anything of theirs till they get back on their feet and demonstrate a new track record of helping customers.
That said I would be happy to recommend the rugged as an alternative that I have been happy with, with the advantage that it can be disassembled. But that really depends on what calibers are your main use.

Yeah, whether any other cans are having widespread issues isn't so much the problem as them showing a complete lack of ability to help customers that do have problems. You're essentially buying their stuff as-is, new from the factory.

This thread, and those on Arfcom, make me glad I bought my 9mm can from Rugged. Even if the problems are largely confined to the Sierra 5, it's nice to know Rugged makes their stuff in-house and can take care of any issues.

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Originally posted by IndianaBoy:
This thread, and those on Arfcom, make me glad I bought my 9mm can from Rugged. Even if the problems are largely confined to the Sierra 5, it's nice to know Rugged makes their stuff in-house and can take care of any issues.

Yeah I almost bought a Sierra 5 but heard the early rumblings. Happily, I decided on a different can. It was a close call.

I saw the link about the failure of a DA Mask on a 5.7. Has anyone heard of this being an issue on a 22LR pistol?

I have not seen any reliable evidence of masks having common issues. And in point of experience I have 2 no issues and lots of rounds. And my local crack dealer rents one, its the most popular suppressor they rent and estimates that it has more than 50K rounds. I got involved in a discussion about it one day as they were taking it apart to clean it and you can not even imagine the amount of crap.
I don't run mine on a 5.7 as having seen the blast that comes out of a 5.7 barrel there is no way I want that eroding my most favorite .22 can.

My Wolfman and Mask have been solid so far, they were purchased some time ago.

Just because I have been recently enamored with these videos...



Flash performance sucks.

on that video one would not have much to complain about. But of course it didn't puke its guts as many of them seem to be doing.

Well my Sandman S is currently in nfa jail, so hoping it’s a winner when I get it. My ffl, who deals with a pretty good volume of cans, has as of now no issues with dead air. So hoping I don’t get disappointed once my stamp comes in.

My LGS recently had a back-and-forth with Dead Air, concerning their inventory of Sierra5 silencers.

LGS provided the serial numbers of their three Sierra5 cans, and asked if there was any sort of serial number range that was known to be affected. Dead Air said no; they said, if it's going to fail, it'll fail in the first mag, and there's nothing that can be done proactively.

LGS said the only way they can sell their inventory is if they test fire (30rds) the silencers. Otherwise, they don't feel good about selling them to folks. They asked if Dead Air was willing to offer anything to offset the cost of ammo, and the fact that the cans would have to be sold as "demo" silencers.

Dead Air sent six (two per can) 15% off coupon codes.

So, now the LGS can test fire the silencers. If they pass, the customer can buy with confidence, and get two 15% coupons to use with Dead Air. If any fail, the store can handle the repair process instead of the customer.

Seemed like a decent way to handle it.

Does anyone know how the lawsuit/countersuit between DA and KG Made (DA's manufacturer)? Settled? Ongoing?

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Originally posted by KSGM:
My LGS recently had a back-and-forth with Dead Air, concerning their inventory of Sierra5 silencers.

LGS provided the serial numbers of their three Sierra5 cans, and asked if there was any sort of serial number range that was known to be affected. Dead Air said no; they said, if it's going to fail, it'll fail in the first mag, and there's nothing that can be done proactively.

LGS said the only way they can sell their inventory is if they test fire (30rds) the silencers. Otherwise, they don't feel good about selling them to folks. They asked if Dead Air was willing to offer anything to offset the cost of ammo, and the fact that the cans would have to be sold as "demo" silencers.

Dead Air sent six (two per can) 15% off coupon codes.

So, now the LGS can test fire the silencers. If they pass, the customer can buy with confidence, and get two 15% coupons to use with Dead Air. If any fail, the store can handle the repair process instead of the customer.

Seemed like a decent way to handle it.

I wouldnt buy one regardless of the coupons. I also dont think it's a great way of handling it. I think they should have taken the silencers back and replaced with new ones.

I meant decent on the part of the LGS. Not necessarily Dead Air. LGS did the best they could.

East Valley Tactical held a suppressor shoot/industry range day today. Dead Air was there. A few times I took note of, there were long lines for everyone except Dead Air. My friends and I skipped their table.

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Originally posted by KSGM:
I meant decent on the part of the LGS. Not necessarily Dead Air. LGS did the best they could.

Yes, sorry I wasnt clear. I think this is, yet another, failure in Dead Air's response.

LGS put thirty rounds of rapid fire through each Sierra, out of a 10" barrel. All three are fine. The owner said it's a pretty quiet can.

I think the bottom line is DA made a lemon, and handled it poorly. I don't know why anyone would "roll the dice" on a Sierra5, when there are countless other as-good-or-better alternatives.

I don't much care for cans that screw together. I appreciate the appeal of HUB in the back, but I will rocksett that thing together, once I decide what I want in there. Where the front is concerned, just build a small flash hider into the end cap, and weld that joker on; swapping end caps is a novelty, on a caliber-specific silencer.

I don’t think I ever heard anyone say the Sierra 5, or any of the DA suppressors were designed poorly. The issue was the construction/warranty. If you’re lucky enough to get a good one, I’m sure it’s gonna be a great suppressor. But the gamble is fairly high, compared to other brands right now.

Dead Air says all the bad ones have been identified and fixed. How they know this, they're not saying. Whether someone chooses to believe this is up to them.

One of the two FFL's I picked up cans from recently told me he had a conversation with a Dead Air employee who told him that less than one percent of all the Sierra 5's they made had problems, and that there's tens of thousands of them on the market. FFL was making the point that the problem was way overblown by guys on Reddit and Instagram. I made a counterpoint: Dead Air didn't say anything to anyone at the time, including guys with dead cans back at the factory for over a year, and all they've said since is that they've all been repaired. Their failure was both a customer service and a PR failure, and they squarely own both of those. People are going to talk about a product that's blowing up, you can't stop that. What you can do is try to get out in front of it and say "we know this is happening, we're going to take care of everybody" and they refused to do that, shutting down their Reddit account and deleting comments and blocking people on Instagram. FFL didn't have a reply to that.

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LGS provided the serial numbers of their three Sierra5 cans, and asked if there was any sort of serial number range that was known to be affected. Dead Air said no; they said, if it's going to fail, it'll fail in the first mag, and there's nothing that can be done proactively.

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Dead Air says all the bad ones have been identified and fixed. How they know this, they're not saying.

LOL