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Ha ha! Brian Stelter reminds me of the guy who sees a sign that says, "Wet Paint."

"is it wet paint?" he asks as he touches the wet paint. I love how they can go back for seconds. I sure hope there was an automatic pay up clause with the non-disclosure.



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Wonder what Old Mr Phillips is thinking right now. Considering it was his dumb ass started this masquerade.


LOL, so true. Even if Sandmann is only getting 5 figures in settlement, how does Nathan Phillips feel that a white kid is getting money because of him?

Ouch.


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Originally posted by Citadel:
Wonder what Old Mr Phillips is thinking right now. Considering it was his dumb ass started this masquerade.


LOL, so true. Even if Sandmann is only getting 5 figures in settlement, how does Nathan Phillips feel that a white kid is getting money because of him?

Ouch.


Maybe Phillips should start a go-fund-me account to help cover his damages. Smile




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Oh I so hope Seltzer gets canned over this. I loathe that POS.


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Nick Sandmann was accepted to Transylvania University

ACLU official writes:

Does anyone else think it’s a bit of a stain on Transylvania University for accepting Nick Sandman? I’m sure it’s a “both sides” defense, but it’s pretty counter to their mission and another instance of there not actually being equal sides to an issue. I think TU should accept anyone willing to have an open mind and engage in debate, regardless of their views. That’s how we all learn. That’s Transy’s mission…

Having experienced the incredibly high standards Transy requires for admission and then holds its students to, this seems like a slap in the face. I hope some time in a real classroom changes him, but his twitter and public persona suggest otherwise.

How does Transylvania University respond ?


One person responding was Dr. Avery Tompkins, an Assistant Professor and Diversity Scholar at Transylvania University, acknowledged that the university supported diverse viewpoints but promised to closely monitor Sandmann while he is on campus:

“If he were to cause problems by being disruptive, trolling, or engaging in unethical behavior of any kind, I would immediately document it (just like I would for any student doing the same thing)…and he would just be putting himself in a position for me to file a conduct report.”

full Avery Tompkins:




https://jonathanturley.org/202...monitor-his-conduct/

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


maybe Tompkins needs a call from Lin Wood
 
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Screw the ACLU for this BS move trying to "out" Transylvania U. With his CNN settlement, Sandmann should buy the ACLU and fire everyone, rehiring only Americans.

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Nick Sandmann was accepted to Transylvania University

ACLU official writes:

Does anyone else think it’s a bit of a stain on Transylvania University for accepting Nick Sandman? I’m sure it’s a “both sides” defense, but it’s pretty counter to their mission and another instance of there not actually being equal sides to an issue. I think TU should accept anyone willing to have an open mind and engage in debate, regardless of their views. That’s how we all learn. That’s Transy’s mission…

Having experienced the incredibly high standards Transy requires for admission and then holds its students to, this seems like a slap in the face. I hope some time in a real classroom changes him, but his twitter and public persona suggest otherwise.

How does Transylvania University respond ?


One person responding was Dr. Avery Tompkins, an Assistant Professor and Diversity Scholar at Transylvania University, acknowledged that the university supported diverse viewpoints but promised to closely monitor Sandmann while he is on campus:

“If he were to cause problems by being disruptive, trolling, or engaging in unethical behavior of any kind, I would immediately document it (just like I would for any student doing the same thing)…and he would just be putting himself in a position for me to file a conduct report.”

full Avery Tompkins:




https://jonathanturley.org/202...monitor-his-conduct/

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


maybe Tompkins needs a call from Lin Wood


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ACLU Official Attacks University For Admitting Nick Sandmann While Professor Promises To Monitor His Conduct

https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...sor-promises-monitor

Recently, the ACLU has abandoned its famed neutrality and has not supported some on the right while supporting those on the left.

Now, the ACLU’s Samuel Crankshaw in Kentucky has targeted Transylvania University for admitting Nick Sandmann, who was falsely accused of abusing a Native American activist in front of Lincoln Memorial. Despite various media organizations correcting the story and some settling with Sandmann, some in the media have continued to attack him. Yet, it is far more alarming to see an ACLU official rallying people against a young man whose chief offense appears to be that he is conservative and unapologetic.

Crankshaw went to Facebook to alert people that Sandmann would be attending the college and expressing veiled outrage that the school would admit someone with his opposing views.

He warns that this kid is “more dangerous” than figures like Milo Yiannopolous.


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Both are bad, but I am more concerned w the comments of Avery Tompkins (Assistant Professor and Diversity Scholar at Transylvania University) than the ACLU comments.
 
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Recently, the ACLU has abandoned its famed neutrality ....


Recently‽ What a ridiculous statement.
A co-worker who was a member of the ACLU once mentioned that he was reconsidering his support because the organization wasn’t defending rightwing groups as much as they were the Left. And that was in 1978.

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He warns that this kid is “more dangerous” than figures like Milo Yiannopolous.


I wish I deserved a compliment like that.




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I wish I deserved a compliment like that.


Me too!

But we live too clean a life.

Remember, all he needs to do is win one single lawsuit and the others cost of lying and cheating will go up 10 fold, maybe 100 fold. One of their students should soon file a lawsuit for slandering their school. I feel fairly certain they did what they did to also denigrate their school and maybe their religion. There should be no room for that in an honest media.

But then we don't have honest media. Wish they could hate me as much as I hate them.


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Originally posted by sigfreund:

I wish I deserved a compliment like that.


Me too!

But we live too clean a life.

Remember, all he needs to do is win one single lawsuit and the others cost of lying and cheating will go up 10 fold, maybe 100 fold. One of their students should soon file a lawsuit for slandering their school. I feel fairly certain they did what they did to also denigrate their school and maybe their religion. There should be no room for that in an honest media.

But then we don't have honest media. Wish they could hate me as much as I hate them.


We can all hope!!


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This is Avery Tompkins, who has since apologized (sort of) :

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Mr. Tompkins wrote that while he finds Mr. Sandmann’s “public behavior and rhetoric atrocious and uninformed,” the university cannot make admissions decisions based on someone’s political beliefs.

He later deleted the comment and apologized for “singling out” Mr. Sandmann.

“I want to apologize for my mistake in singling out a student and any misunderstandings that arose from that,” he said in a statement, Mr. Turley reported. “One of my favorite things about working at a liberal arts institution is that the University community has diverse perspectives. All students, faculty, and staff are able to engage in civil discourse with those whose views may be different from their own, and to learn about those views in an academic setting. I value and support these conversations with students, and I know that students value these conversations with their peers as well.”




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An abridged version of Tompkins' statement reads: "Please don't sue the shit out of me."
 
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“I want to apologize for my mistake in singling out a student and any misunderstandings that arose from that
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What a dumb-ass.

Another example of someone who would be unemployed if not for university payroll.


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Nick Sandmann Torches ACLU Associate, Professor Who Called Him ‘Dangerous’: ‘I Will Not Be Canceled’

https://www.dailywire.com/news...m_campaign=position6

Former Covington Catholic student Nick Sandmann fired back Thursday at an ACLU associate and a college professor who warned that he was “dangerous” and a “provocateur” and should be watched closely when he begins his freshman year at Kentucky’s Transylvania University, telling the pair that he is a “pro-life conservative Republican college student who won’t let cancel culture silence me” in a Fox News op-ed.

On Wednesday, The Daily Wire reported that Sandmann was the target of a two-pronged attack that began when a graduate of Transylvania University, who became an associate attorney for the ACLU, warned that Sandmann’s presence at the school was a “bit of a stain” on its reputation and called Sandmann “a provocateur in training with no intention of learning” who “exists only to troll, intimidate and play victim.”

A Transylvania University professor, Dr. Avery Tompkins, initially defended Sandmann’s presence, telling the writer that “While I certainly don’t support or agree with his views, and find his public behavior and rhetoric atrocious and uninformed, we can’t not admit academically qualified students due to their political and personal views.”

Then, though, she pledged to keep the ACLU and others appraised of Sandmann’s activities.

“If he ends up in my intro class, fine. He might learn something that is actually based on research and evidence. I’m well aware of the anti-intellectual views tied to the organizations he’s part of,” she said. “If he were to cause problems by being disruptive, trolling, or engaging in unethical behavior of any kind, I would immediately document it (just like I would for any student doing the same thing) and he would just be putting himself in a position for me to file a conduct report.”

She then suggested that “Transy” wouldn’t be an appropriate home for Sandmann because he might not fit in with the school’s “mission” — a mission which, it seems, is not academic excellence.

Sandmann fired back Thursday, torching the ACLU associate for attempting to derail his college experience simply because he is “outraged that my conservative values don’t align with his left-wing ideology.”

“So should only liberals and those on the far-left be able to get a college education?” Sandmann asks in his op-ed. “Should there be an ideological purity test required that bars conservatives and Republicans? That’s a pretty frightening idea and sounds like something you would expect in a totalitarian state, not a democracy where we are all guaranteed free speech by the First Amendment to the Constitution.”

“Colleges have a reputation of being toxic places for conservative, pro-life ideas like the ones I hold. But an alumni assuming I’ll act in a certain way before even meeting me? Well, that’s a new low,” he continues. “To those who are inclined to write my future for me, I say let me define myself. I will not be canceled.”

Sandmann is currently working for Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s re-election campaign. He is starting college this fall.


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Given the insanity surrounding Sandmann, I am concerned for his safety while at college.


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Transylvania University has been around since before KY was a state. Its alumni contains two VP's of the US, two Supreme court justices, many politicians, leaders, successful people.

It is a liberal arts college.

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I'd have never expected them to put someone as oppressive as Avery Tompkins there, at least the school I remember....

That Transylvania has a person with that pedigree, and such a bigoted disregard for individual personal rights, then universities have gone left farther than we imagine.

If I was an alumni there I'd pull any financial contributions to the school immediately.
 
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https://hotair.com/archives/ed...g-stone-can-proceed/

Federal Court: Sandmann’s Libel Suits Against NYT, ABC, CBS, & Rolling Stone Can Proceed

CNN and the Washington Post settled with Nicholas Sandmann over his libel claim rather than attempt to defend their reporting on the March for Life confrontation with activist Nathan Phillips, and especially their subsequent defamatory commentary even after the full context of that confrontation became clear. Other news outlets have played out the string, hoping to find a way to shortcut the need to start writing checks to the teenager and his high-powered attorney, Lin Wood.

Wood:

"Motions to Dismiss @N1ckSandmann defamation lawsuits filed in KY federal court against NY Times, Rolling Stone, ABC, & CBS were just DENIED.

NBC motion has previously been DENIED.

Gannett motion was briefed on different time schedule & a DENIAL is expected in next few weeks."

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Note especially the reference to discovery, the process by which attorneys for each side can demand documentation and depositions. That’s what these media outlets want to avoid most. For one thing, that battle is absurdly asymmetrical. How much discovery can these media outlets get from a teenager? On the other hand, Wood can use that process to depose everyone up the managerial chain, right up to the top of the outlets, and use the depositions to wage public war on them.

And they know that’s exactly what Wood will do, too, which is why this fight won’t last much longer with any of these media outlets.
 
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Good for Sandmann. Keep suing the fake news media. I hope he does something great with the awards.
 
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Originally posted by az4783054: I hope he does something great with the awards.


Yeah, like pay for tuition and books! And legal fees, too.


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