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Video of the the crash, exterior and interior views.Looks like the woman would have bought the farm whether it was self driving or not. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...riving-Uber-car.html _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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Funny Man |
Pedestrian killed herself, no way a human driver avoids her. ______________________________ “I'd like to know why well-educated idiots keep apologizing for lazy and complaining people who think the world owes them a living.” ― John Wayne | |||
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Even though she wasn't visible to the imaging system (or human eye), doesn't the onboard radar system come into play for a situation like that? "If Gun Control worked, Chicago would look like Mayberry, not Thunderdome" - Cam Edwards | |||
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| Go ahead punk, make my day |
But but BUT ROBOTS!!!! Yeah, jaywalking in the dark on a 4 lane road can lead to your injury or death by automobile, human or robot controlled. Back to your regularly scheduled outrage without the facts. | |||
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The guy behind the guy |
no one here has shouted anyone down or mocked anyone. Sheesh! People in charge of very large companies think this is inevitable. I’m not in the industry enough, all I know is what I read. When Ford starts an Uber competitor because they expect to be selling a lot fewer cars, that is fairly good evidence to me. As for the accident, the “driver” didn’t seem to be doing her job at all. Not sure it would have mattered based on the video, but still, she was worthless. That is the very type of accident this type of technology should avoid. Darkness matters not to radar. I’m surprised the car didn’t stop based on the tech it must have. Based on the vid I just saw, im not sure Uber is off the hook. | |||
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| Funny Man |
If a human driver would not be charged, and based on the video and the facts (jaywalking a 4 lane at night) I don't see how a human would be charged, why should Uber be in any trouble. Sure, someone may file suit to cash in and will likely be paid to go away. That doesn't mean that Uber is at fault or that the technology failed unless you are saying the driverless car has to be better than a human to be viable. ______________________________ “I'd like to know why well-educated idiots keep apologizing for lazy and complaining people who think the world owes them a living.” ― John Wayne | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Bull! Two years ago I was driving down a darker road than that going faster than that and managed to avoid hitting a deer that suddenly strolled onto the road. I didn't even have the luxury of having my high beams on at the time either. I was simply paying close attention to the road. Having great eyesight doesn't hurt either, but it is certainly conceivable that a person watching the road and in control of that vehicle could've avoided her. Proof? Right here from my dashcam video: You can skip to the one minute mark. Link to original video: https://youtu.be/fLrqzfNRT9A I even managed not to stall out my Jeep. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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| Funny Man |
Here is a link to the video as releases without the cuts and analysis. https://mobile.twitter.com/Tem...s/976585098542833664 ______________________________ “I'd like to know why well-educated idiots keep apologizing for lazy and complaining people who think the world owes them a living.” ― John Wayne | |||
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| Funny Man |
Balze, you are going to believe what you want based on your perception of what happened with the deer and I am not going to try to argue with you....except to say that you had the benefit of the oncoming car's headlights and the color of the deer. Could some drivers in a perfect state of alertness avoid hitting the lady in dark clothes on a dark road at 40 mph, maybe. Would a very large number of drivers hit her just like the Uber car, certainty. The bottom line is that the pedestrian was in a place in the dark where she should not have been. She is 100% responsible for her own death regardless of who was, or was not, behind the wheel of the car that hit her. ______________________________ “I'd like to know why well-educated idiots keep apologizing for lazy and complaining people who think the world owes them a living.” ― John Wayne | |||
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Why? Just bury your head up your ass like the rest of them and experience the easy life...Who needs freedom...just go along...get in step...it's gonna happen...no fighting it...
Correction: Large corporations want it to be inevitable! That way they can exert their control over the masses and some of you are eating the shit sandwich they are handing out. Radars are not so good when they haven't been calibrated, or dirty, or misaligned...I just look out my window right now and wonder how any kind of sensors would work on a car if it looked anything like my Camry that's covered with winter storm grime and salt/sand from being behind a plow truck? ___________________________ No thanks, I've already got a penguin. | |||
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| Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
What possible benefit did that car give me? Watch the video again. There was zero. It was still at least a quarter a mile down the road. If anything it was a distraction. Did that Uber car even brake before slamming into the pedestrian? ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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I saw her in the road 4 second prior to impact. Plenty of time to react. On the interior video you can see the driver is hardly paying attention, and only looks up about a second and a half prior to making that face when she's about to make impact. | |||
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| Mired in the Fog of Lucidity |
Has there been any toxicology done on the pedestrian? | |||
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I only got less than 2 seconds from first seeing her until impact. your eyes must be better than mine. The video first shows the pedestrian at 4 seconds into the video and near contact at 5 seconds. 1 second reaction time would be really fast,and that is when the brakes are applied. You still have to stop the vehicle after the reaction time. _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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| Funny Man |
I haven't gone back through the thread but I am going to guess that you have been outspoken against self driving cars throughout. I watched the video, both of them, and gave my perception of both. I consider myself a good driver. I have hit a deer on a dark stretch of road. I have avoided many deer in similar circumstances. When I drive in rural areas at night I am hyper vigilant because I expect to encounter deer. Based on what I saw in the Uber video I would not proclaim that I would have missed that lady, in fact I am pretty certain I would have ran right over her. ______________________________ “I'd like to know why well-educated idiots keep apologizing for lazy and complaining people who think the world owes them a living.” ― John Wayne | |||
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| Victim of Life's Circumstances  |
If the attendant was 100% eyes on the road he had time to react. Looks to me like he was staring at his lap like a texter would do. Shocked the crap out of him when he realized impact was nigh. Both are at fault. ________________________ God spelled backwards is dog | |||
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| safe & sound |
I am blessed with very good eye sight and reflexes. In reality, shouldn't the computer be seeing better than we can? Doesn't that thing have some sort of radar that detects objects even in total darkness? Let's say there's a child running down a sidewalk on the other side of a row of parked cars. As humans we see the child, assume it's going to cut between those cars and out on to the road, and adjust our driving accordingly. Can the computer do that? Or is the computer looking at a moving object over there, and not concerned because it's not moving in front of it.....yet? | |||
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You are also blessed with a better (different) time perception than the video recording. Congratulations. _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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| Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Guilty.
Maybe i would've hit her too. I can't say for sure. But in this case I dont even really blame the car. That Uber lady wasn't even paying attention to the road. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Autonomous vehicles do categorize objects by type (other car, pedestrian, bicyclist, street sign, etc.) and alter behavior based on the type of objects that are present. | |||
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