Evaluation, esmaluation. Do potential employers get to read these snowflakes evaluations? I'm guessing not. This is supposed to be college, not fucking Romper Room. The SJW social experiments need to be shit-canned and some reasonable rules enforced.

You can say it in 10 words or in 10,000 fluffy words but Georgie-Porgie doesn't belong in the position he's in. He's probably a bit light weight for a daycare center much less any school beyond elementary. People like him are what's wrong with this country, whether he's wearing a bow tie or a tie-dye.

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Originally posted by gasche:
O.K. Para and folks. I'll come clean. I am a graduate of Evergreen.

OK, so, he's not your dad?

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Originally posted by wishfull thinker:

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Originally posted by gasche:
...so please dispense with the name calling and telling me to "stuff" some unfounded assumption about me.

Nice screed, you should have started with that. Still, the assumptions aren't unfounded.

Would you care to enlighten me on the foundation of your statement that I'm "P.C."?
BTW we need to get together at the club. Finally meet.

They taught you well, gasche. Saying that some problem, or issue, is just so complicated that any course of action will be open to attack is a common liberal starting point. It justifies the nonsense they advance, or the total inaction. After all, if you are in a fog so thick that you can't see a hand in front of your face, saying "Let's go this way" makes about as much sense as anything.

Also, your first response was, again, a common leftist ploy. "I think he's a fag. Let's kick his ass." It's the equivalent of playing the race card, or calling someone a bigot, or homophobe, etc. It skips over what is really at stake, and turns everything back against the one who has dared to criticize the liberal. Try criticizing BLM and you will see what I mean. Instantly.

I would guess that you are not only a grad of Evergreen, (and maybe in some way connected with this president), but also an academic. No crime in that, so am I. But it should make you more aware of the way you are shaped by your environment, and more of an independent, critical thinker.

You have been on this board longer than I, but not many posts for all that time. I appreciate your long response, above. But I would say that if you engage in the discussions here, you will see that this is not a place for bigotry of any kind. Anti-gay malice, or ridiculing someone's appearance, will get you licking talon wounds on your butt, fast. The comments about his bow tie-- and my comment about his voice-- were about what was inside the man, not ridiculing his appearance.

Active time here will make a nice counterbalance to four years at Evergreen.

I guess I am one of the armchair leaders, I have been responsible for 20 to 200 people (direct line management) over the last 6 years and small teams while in the Military.

It quite easy, hold people responsible for breaking the rules.....it's not easy, but if you do not ..you get what we see here at Evergreen.

Probation? for raiding the welcome speech of the new police chief ...um no, suspension until you apologize in writing and in person. If you cannot do that buh bye...

Assaulting people....you're out, do not pass go do not collect $200.

Shouting down other people trying to have a polite discourse, out of the class that day, do it again drop a grade...still can't learn, you fail that class

Don't turn your assignments in on time ...maybe a pass the first time with a reduced grade IF you have a valid reason...and "I wanna be in the weather underground" is not a valid reason.

Management is doing it right....Leadership is doing the right thing.

This cuck did neither

Not sure if he agrees with the snowflakes or he is just scared to lead.

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Originally posted by gasche:

Could the "blacks only day" been a campus wide experiment?...

Wow, you are a product of your university...

But even your state leaders notice things at your beloved Evergreen smell awfully rancid.

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Sen. Phil Fortunato, R-Auburn, has introduced Senate Bill 5946, which would phase out state funding for The Evergreen State College and ultimately sell the institution.

Fortunato said the controversy over the request for a white professor to leave campus that has embroiled Evergreen in a national media frenzy, reveals a dysfunctional state institution incapable of keeping order or protecting free speech.

“What I see is an institution dedicated to indoctrinating kids into being perpetual victims,” explained Fortunato. “We saw videos of students disrupting classrooms, bullying administration, blocking police and intimidating those around them, and the response from the college president was to thank them for it. It is unbelievable.

“When this bill passes, they can still feed each other all the Marxist nonsense they want, they just won’t be able to do it with money from my constituents unless my constituents choose to donate to it – which I doubt.”

http://www.auburn-reporter.com...green-state-college/

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Originally posted by Audioholic:
Evaluation, esmaluation. Do potential employers get to read these snowflakes evaluations? I'm guessing not. This is supposed to be college, not fucking Romper Room. The SJW social experiments need to be shit-canned and some reasonable rules enforced.

You can say it in 10 words or in 10,000 fluffy words but Georgie-Porgie doesn't belong in the position he's in. He's probably a bit light weight for a daycare center much less any school beyond elementary. People like him are what's wrong with this country, whether he's wearing a bow tie or a tie-dye.

Yes, absolutely, potential employers get to read these evaluations. When you write "Grades upon request." on your resume' you can actually change the word "grades" to "evaluations".
I, as many here, have lamented using the military for social experiments. Isn't it better to learn if these ideas work on a smaller scale at college than to put these theories to the test at the risk of national security?

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by gasche:
O.K. Para and folks. I'll come clean. I am a graduate of Evergreen.

OK, so, he's not your dad?

No, he's not my dad. We Greeners like to think of each other as family, you know like Charlie Manson and his family only in Volkswagen busses.

'cos dad's get a pass here

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Originally posted by justjoe:
They taught you well, gasche. Saying that some problem, or issue, is just so complicated that any course of action will be open to attack is a common liberal starting point. It justifies the nonsense they advance, or the total inaction. After all, if you are in a fog so thick that you can't see a hand in front of your face, saying "Let's go this way" makes about as much sense as anything.

Also, your first response was, again, a common leftist ploy. "I think he's a fag. Let's kick his ass." It's the equivalent of playing the race card, or calling someone a bigot, or homophobe, etc. It skips over what is really at stake, and turns everything back against the one who has dared to criticize the liberal. Try criticizing BLM and you will see what I mean. Instantly.

I would guess that you are not only a grad of Evergreen, (and maybe in some way connected with this president), but also an academic. No crime in that, so am I. But it should make you more aware of the way you are shaped by your environment, and more of an independent, critical thinker.

You have been on this board longer than I, but not many posts for all that time. I appreciate your long response, above. But I would say that if you engage in the discussions here, you will see that this is not a place for bigotry of any kind. Anti-gay malice, or ridiculing someone's appearance, will get you licking talon wounds on your butt, fast. The comments about his bow tie-- and my comment about his voice-- were about what was inside the man, not ridiculing his appearance.

Active time here will make a nice counterbalance to four years at Evergreen.

Wow! JJ I hope you as an academic don't teach reading comprehension. Your last paragraph lecturing me on what not to do on this forum was exactly my point. It was my reason for posting.
No, I am not an academic. Four years of theory was enough for me, I like reality. I'm just a business owner trying to make a buck where I can. You know, so my tax dollars can pay academics, like you.
As far as you trying to convince me that I am who you think based on a few forum posts. Nice try. As an academic I'm sure that works on your wide eyed bewildered students in order for you to corral them into believing you are of superior intellect. Do you really think they believe it or are they just playing your game because they need the credit from your class.

Sorry if you think I was lecturing you, gasche, maybe I was. An occupational hazard. But I have no need to convince you of anything. Carry on in any way you like. Adios.

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Originally posted by gasche:

I'll come clean. I am a graduate of Evergreen.

As is the campus police chief (in the video) whose swearing-in ceremony was disrupted by students, as described in the video.

I thought that you had understood before in the other Evergreen State topic that the latest experiment at TESC has gone disturbingly awry. Since my unsupported claim was not enough to convince a Greener of that, here are the details from a former provost and vice president for academic affairs, which is subtitled The reality of what occurred is far more complex, and, in fact, far more insidious than the caricature presented in most media reports.

Can you now see why "Fry" kept focusing on George Bridges in the video?

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Originally posted by gasche:

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Originally posted by Audioholic:
Evaluation, esmaluation. Do potential employers get to read these snowflakes evaluations? I'm guessing not. This is supposed to be college, not fucking Romper Room. The SJW social experiments need to be shit-canned and some reasonable rules enforced.

You can say it in 10 words or in 10,000 fluffy words but Georgie-Porgie doesn't belong in the position he's in. He's probably a bit light weight for a daycare center much less any school beyond elementary. People like him are what's wrong with this country, whether he's wearing a bow tie or a tie-dye.

Yes, absolutely, potential employers get to read these evaluations. When you write "Grades upon request." on your resume' you can actually change the word "grades" to "evaluations".
I, as many here, have lamented using the military for social experiments. Isn't it better to learn if these ideas work on a smaller scale at college than to put these theories to the test at the risk of national security?

Gasche, the following isn't personal but aimed at the SJW brainwashed. I grew up around my grandparents and I tend to have a more simplistic view of "social experiments".

First: does it fit in with the Constitution and democratic republic system of government this country was founded on? If the answer's no then GTFO, right now.

Second: are the folks paying for this so-called education (AKA taxpayers & parents) fully aware of what Evergreen is subjecting students to? I'm betting no and the light shining on recent incidents will dry funds up in short order.

Colleges are supposed to be about education, period. Give young skulls full of mush the tools to make their own decisions and enough intellect to interact with others. Allowing students to browbeat others who they disagree with, get affected by "triggers", and be flat out racists is not an education. Take over a building? Time for a safe space with Bubba in a gated community until perhaps a few more synapses fire.

Social "engineering" is supposed to take place out in the wild as various people interact. In other words: naturally. Attempting to do social engineering in college or the military is no better than DPRK Kim's reeducation camps (well, maybe slightly less murder or torture). If I was still in college I would definitely consider it torture. Leave it to globalist libtards to always know what's better for someone else. I hate to break it to them but pioneer spirit kicks socialism's ass any day, and that day's coming soon.

Unlike the DPRK or former East Germany there's nothing other than the cost of a ticket keeping anyone in this country. Don't like the Constitution or this country's history? Leave, now. Pining for the fjords of big government socialism? Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya. Triggered by a Confederate flag? I hear Iran is nice, it's a "dry" heat. Thinking we'll roll over like Sweden is misguided, we have a lot of Bobs that are to be underestimated at your own peril.

And since hickory shampoo was mentioned, I nominate Antifa as most deserving. You've got to love libtard naming conventions: pick what you do and name it the polar opposite. Nothing to do with anti-facist, more like anti-FreedomAssholes. Show up at Berkeley, Evergreen or anywhere else wearing masks and sporting weapons? Shampoo first, jail second. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Rant over.

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Originally posted by gasche:

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Originally posted by wishfull thinker:

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Originally posted by gasche:
...so please dispense with the name calling and telling me to "stuff" some unfounded assumption about me.

Nice screed, you should have started with that. Still, the assumptions aren't unfounded.

Would you care to enlighten me on the foundation of your statement that I'm "P.C."?
BTW we need to get together at the club. Finally meet.

Nope. If you're a member I don't want to fight any more, I get enough of that. We ought to get together though, closed for two weeks at least but after that pick up on my email and we can work something out.

The funny part about liberals and arrogance is the ability to say one thing, and the vehemently deny thats what they were saying, all the while making counter accusations.

Those that can't see the problem at Evergreen, and the problem with this.....person, is part of the problem.

Want to be a lefty pinko academy? Absolutely fine. Give up all public funding and go as hard and as far left as you want. Until that day, fuck off. Don't tell me all of this PC bullshit, and whine "what would you do?". What I would do is so simple. Hold the students accountable for their actions. This is supposed to be a public place of learning, not a fucking ghetto where mob rule applies.

Let me repeat myself. Anyone who can't see the obvious answers is part of the problem. The description in the thread title is correct. Those who can't see it are part of the problem in this country.

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Originally posted by gasche:
I'm not stating that this is what happened, however this is a strong possibility based on my experience at Evergreen. Could the "blacks only day" been a campus wide experiment? Was the current zeitgeist on campus's across this country of white people being bad and exploiters of people of color finally being put to the test?

Sure, this could be one way to use valuable time in higher education. Evergreen could follow it up with "Poke yourself in the eye with a sharp stick" day too. But it doesn't say much for the intellect of the general student body, since this is the kind of concept that should be taught by 5th grade. And it certainly doesn't justify the leap to the criminal behavior that is the subject of this thread.

Not everyone needs to be in college. We probably have way too many colleges and universities,and maybe schools like this are proving that out. A large portion of college faculty and administrators certainly don't need to be leading 18-25 year olds, especially in liberal arts.



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Originally posted by gasche:

O.K. Para and folks. I'll come clean. I am a graduate of Evergreen. I earned what some here believe to be a "worthless" degree.

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Well you're standing your intellectual ground here, so somewhere you learned something of value, and got yourself to swallow the red pill using the red koolaid, so you can't be a flaming SJW asshole.

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Originally posted by gasche:
Consider, if you will my fellow sigformites, what the lesson would be for black students showing up on campus with only black staff and teachers.

Well, at a bare minimum they should think, "Where the HELL are the rest of the folks I'm paying tuition to be taught by? Who's cheated me and where to I go to complain and get the full staff back in here."

This nonsense teaches people to look at race first.

What would I be expected to do if I went into a job and all the folks in charge happened to be a different race/gender/whatever from me? Should I, A) do my job as best I can, or B) expect to be discriminated against, and hold back waiting for that to happen, and congratulating myself on my superior knowledge when I get fired, knowing they had it in for me all the time?

Every student should be trained to do A. Every-damn-one. For a college to do less is for them to take tuition for brain-wrecking.

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Originally posted by gasche:

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Damn! We churned up a Leftist in this thread! How'd you get in here, son?

Name calling and jeers? Saul Alinsky would be proud.
I thought commenting on people's appearance in this forum was frowned on?
I'm not your "son".

Well, that's a way to go. Poke the bear much?

Evergreen State College to face $3.8-million lawsuit from Prof. Bret Weinstein and wife.

"The factual narrative submitted alongside the tort claim argues that Evergreen State "has permitted, cultivated, and perpetuated a racially hostile and retaliatory work environment," asserting that "Through a series of decisions made at the highest levels, including to officially support a day of racial segregation, the College has refused to protect its employees from repeated provocative and corrosive verbal and written hostility based on race, as well as threats of physical violence."

"Weinstein's attorney also maintains that the college has "failed to set and enforce necessary boundaries in the workplace on campus, selectively has chosen not to enforce its student Code of Conduct, and sent the unmistakable message that the school will tolerate (and even endorse) egregious violations (and even crimes) purportedly to advance racial social goals, diminishing the collegiate experience for all, and fostering a racially hostile work and retaliatory environment for faculty and staff."

http://www.americanthinker.com...nstein_and_wife.html