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| The Ice Cream Man |
Not from that world but it seems like A) If that statement wasn’t authorized, some people need to spend their lives breaking big rocks into Little Rock’ B) If it was, it seems like a great statement to make about 3-4 hours before the first missile hits… | |||
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“A student protester was shot in the back of the head and buried at the roadside in Tehran following demonstrations against the Iranian regime as the death toll continues to surge. Activists now say that the number killed in the crackdown on nationwide protests has spiked to at least 538 people. Meanwhile more than 10,600 people have been detained, the US-based Human Rights Activists News Agency claimed. In total, 490 of those killed were protesters and 48 were members of the security forces, the group said. Rubina Aminian, 23, had joined in the street protests after a day of classes in her textiles programme at Shariati College on Thursday. The young Kurdish woman had mingled with the crowds of demonstrators and activists, but just days later, her body would be found buried beside a deserted road. According to Iran Human Rights, Aminian was shot at close range in the back of the head before being buried. …” DailyMail article: https://mol.im/a/15453839 Serious about crackers. | |||
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Was chatting with the barber yesterday about this idea of hitting Iran again....what do you hit? A few more of the nuclear sites...? Focus on major IRGC sites and other secret police organizations and knock them out...?
That might not be a bad idea for them to completely throw-out Islam, as Zoroastrianism is an organic Persian belief. That's quite the pipe-dream but, perhaps there's a movement within Iran that they're fed-up with Islam and all that its wrought over the centuries to their culture in-general. | |||
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"White House hints the US military is ready in cryptic social media post, as US officials say Trump is weighing military and political options as Iran protests intensify." https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/420746 ____________________________________________________ The butcher with the sharpest knife has the warmest heart. | |||
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From link below: "Iranian civilians are being shot with live ammunition in the streets. Where are the Hollywood celebrities? Greta Thunberg SILENT." Link ... stirred anti-clockwise. | |||
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https://www.newsmax.com/world/...dkt_nbr=010502sjrv4c Trump Says Iran Wants to Negotiate as Protest Death Toll Rises to 544 President Donald Trump said Iran wants to negotiate with Washington after his threat to strike the Islamic Republic over its bloody crackdown on protesters. Activists said Monday the death toll in the nationwide demonstrations rose to at least 544. Iran had no immediate reaction to the news, which came after the foreign minister of Oman — long an interlocutor between Washington and Tehran — traveled to Iran this weekend. It also remains unclear just what Iran could promise, particularly as Trump has set strict demands over its nuclear program and its ballistic missile arsenal, which Tehran insists is crucial for its national defense. Meanwhile Monday, Iran called for pro-government demonstrators to head to the streets in support of the theocracy, a show of force after days of protests directly challenging the rule of 86-year-old Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Iranian state television aired chants from the crowd, many of whom shouted "Death to America!" and "Death to Israel!" Trump and his national security team have been weighing a range of potential responses against Iran including cyberattacks and direct strikes by the U.S. or Israel, according to two people familiar with internal White House discussions who spoke on condition of anonymity. "The military is looking at it, and we're looking at some very strong options," Trump told reporters on Air Force One on Sunday night. Asked about Iran's threats of retaliation, he said, "If they do that, we will hit them at levels that they've never been hit before." Trump said that his administration was in talks to set up a meeting with Tehran, but cautioned that he may have to act first as reports of the death toll in Iran mount and the government continues to arrest protesters. "I think they're tired of being beat up by the United States," Trump said. "Iran wants to negotiate." He added: "The meeting is being set up, but we may have to act because of what's happening before the meeting. But a meeting is being set up. "Iran called, they want to negotiate." Iran through country's parliamentary speaker warned Sunday that the U.S. military and Israel would be "legitimate targets" if America uses force to protect demonstrators. More than 10,600 people also have been detained over the two weeks of protests, said the U.S.-based Human Rights Activists News Agency, which has been accurate in previous unrest in recent years and gave the death toll. It relies on supporters in Iran crosschecking information. It said 496 of the dead were protesters and 48 were with security forces. With the internet down in Iran and phone lines cut off, gauging the demonstrations from abroad has grown more difficult. The Associated Press has been unable to independently assess the toll. Iran's government has not offered overall casualty figures. Those abroad fear the information blackout is emboldening hard-liners within Iran's security services to launch a bloody crackdown. Protesters flooded the streets in the country's capital and its second-largest city on Saturday night into Sunday morning. Online videos purported to show more demonstrations Sunday night into Monday, with a Tehran official acknowledging them in state media. In Tehran, a witness told the AP that the streets of the capital empty at the sunset call to prayers each night. By the Isha, or nighttime prayer, the streets were deserted. Part of that stems from the fear of getting caught in the crackdown. Police sent the public a text message that warned: "Given the presence of terrorist groups and armed individuals in some gatherings last night and their plans to cause death, and the firm decision to not tolerate any appeasement and to deal decisively with the rioters, families are strongly advised to take care of their youth and teenagers." Another text, which claimed to come from the intelligence arm of the paramilitary Revolutionary Guard, also directly warned people not to take part in demonstrations. "Dear parents, in view of the enemy's plan to increase the level of naked violence and the decision to kill people ... refrain from being on the streets and gathering in places involved in violence, and inform your children about the consequences of cooperating with terrorist mercenaries, which is an example of treason against the country," the text warned. The witness spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity due to the ongoing crackdown. The demonstrations began Dec. 28 over the collapse of the Iranian rial currency, which trades at over 1.4 million to $1, as the country's economy is squeezed by international sanctions in part levied over its nuclear program. The protests intensified and grew into calls directly challenging Iran's theocracy. | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower |
There is nothing to negotiate. | |||
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| In the yahd, not too fah from the cah ![]() |
"You turn over the keys to Iran to the USA and we won't kill you and your entire regime" That should be the only line item for negotiations. | |||
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So it's looking like that guy that drove through the anti-Iran had pro Iran regime signs on the U-Haul. I wonder who PAID him to drive through them? I wouldn't put it past the antifa/anti-ice/commie financers. He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. | |||
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My thoughts exactly! JP | |||
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Here is my concern -- What most people do not realize is that the military really controls Iran. All the budget goes through the IRG, and some reports state that up to 85% of the country's budget is spent by the military. When the Shah was deposed the military wanted to prevent the chaos of sectarian warfare, so they put up the Muslim mullahs as the face of government, and they have maintained that facade for the last 47 years; however, the real power in in Iran is the Supreme Council of the IRG. The military is not going to give up real control, so the idea that there is a political solution does not reflect the reality of the situation in Iran. Pragmatism: the relentless pursuit of seeing things as they really are. | |||
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Trump Cancels All Meetings With Iran, Says Help on Its Way President Donald Trump said Tuesday that the White House has “canceled all meetings” with Iranian officials. President Donald Trump said Tuesday that the White House has “canceled all meetings” with Iranian officials and that “help is on the way” amid days of unprecedented protests in the country against the regime. “Iranian Patriots, KEEP PROTESTING - TAKE OVER YOUR INSTITUTIONS!!! Save the names of the killers and abusers. They will pay a big price. I have cancelled all meetings with Iranian Officials until the senseless killing of protesters STOPS,” he wrote on social media. “HELP IS ON ITS WAY.” https://www.theepochtimes.com/...mE98Mo0owO29JGuk0%3D _________________________ | |||
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So what does that really mean? More B-2s, maybe a few Tomahawks? "Humanitarian aid" (because that's worked out so well in Gaza)? Or just more sanctions? I really hope he's not talking about putting American boots on the ground over there. We just finished 20 years of that. I know, it's all speculative at this point. I just don't see a lot of really viable, effective options. | |||
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| The Ice Cream Man |
How hard would it for us to eliminate all Iranian Airforce? (Do they have any left?) All of their armor? Any crates of Liberators still in inventory? | |||
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| The Ice Cream Man |
They have to kill their own jackasses. It’s the only thing which works. Until/unless they reach that stage, they stay slaves. | |||
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| The Ice Cream Man |
But leveling the playing field, like the French did for us, can be helpful. | |||
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Iran may have about 100 total mission capable air targets. The biggest threat is any F-14 that can carry either Phoenix or the Iranian "clone" of same. The most aircraft they have are the F-4E. About 1500 plus tanks. If action is taken, likely Air Dominance and air to ground. If concentration on air defenses, military assets, troops and leadership, and the people who seem to be fed the fuck up, likely would prevail and other than destabilizing involvement, no "boots" should be needed, or very few for some specific targets. I would think some "small" country might be suited for that. "the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא עוד | |||
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The population of Iran isn't the same as the population of Gaza. Remove the oppressors. Cripple the IRGC and the IRGC's militia, the Basij and the Iranian People will take care of the rest. ____________________________________________________ The butcher with the sharpest knife has the warmest heart. | |||
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Interesting that Iran has F-4E's. We sent our F'4's to the Target Squadron. These must have escaped and now well trained to be targets. | |||
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