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Originally posted by Southern Rebel:

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Lots of pieces and parts replaced and upgraded over time. Some of them did recently have a huge overhaul and modernization, becoming the J variant, and receiving engines that are used in Gulfstream G550 and G650 business jets. Trump should fly in one of these to the next global warming conference!

Is that like the "old-timers" that claimed they had used the same axe their whole life - and had replaced the axe-head and handle only about three or four times. (I guess that does make it the "same" axe, sorta....

They replaced the axe head twice and the upgraded the handle three times. However,

The original OEM sticker and receipt have been reproduced and lineage of each owner (not to be confused with each user) have been properly documented. Also, third generation copies of the original user and maintenance manuals are also somewhere... in the warehouse.

Sp yeah, just like having a 1935 Dodge with a new Chevy 350 engine, MOOG suspension, disc brakes (WITH anti-lock ), Kenwood cassette AM/FM stereo (with Jensen 6x9s), Boyd wheels , etc., etc.,. (NOTE: wheels currently in work to be updated from 2010 style, stereo still works)

Pretty sure this thread is about the Iran war - not an airplane.
Go make a new thread about the b-52 if you folks have this dire need to talk about it.

From the lessons learned file, safe to say there's going to be some updated tactics & procedures when it comes to high-value assets and locations. The days of the Taj Mahal-style command posts and far-remote sensors are over. This should serve as a wake-up to the brass who have minimized, under-estimated or, outright ignored the reality of how adversaries will attack us and the vulnerabilities of electronic emissions concentrations.

Iranian Attacks On Prized Missile Defense Radars Are A Wake-Up Call

https://x.com/sentdefender/sta...iran-enters-week-two



https://x.com/Osinttechnical/s.../2028966387926835445



https://x.com/devonjlum/status/2029017387085746639



Meanwhile, a new attraction is looking to be added to the Persian Gulf...no confirmation of sinking, yet.
https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2029725370371424476

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Originally posted by downtownv:
Beijing Afraid Iran Strikes Will Spur Uprising in China, Insiders Say
CCP officials are scrambling to ensure loyalty and ideological alignment amid Iran strikes, a former Chinese official said.
The U.S.-led Iran strikes and death of the Iranian leader have rattled Beijing. Authorities are worrying about a chain reaction that could threaten the Chinese regime’s own stability, multiple sources told The Epoch Times on condition of anonymity.
In the days since the launch of Operation Epic Fury, top Chinese officials from the Politburo, the political power center in China, have called multiple secret meetings over the situation in Iran, according to one source with knowledge of the discussions.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...age&ea_med=section-1

There are signs the CCP is getting nervous. APCs patrolling major cities. Bridge watchers to prevent political banners on overpasses to prevent impure thoughts about the party.

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There are signs the CCP is getting nervous...

As well they should be.
Freedom is a desire inherent in every heart.
All commie regimes know this.

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Originally posted by Rawny:

There are signs the CCP is getting nervous.

Well, we just cut off two of their major sources for cheap oil (Venezuela and now Iran) to keep the Cheap Chinese Shit machine going.

I'd say it's more panic than nervousness.

we did this to Japan pre WWI and they lashed out.The United States' cutoff of Japan's oil supply in 1941 had a decisive impact, pushing Japan toward war. By freezing Japanese assets on July 26, 1941, and imposing a full oil embargo on August 1, the U.S. cut off nearly 90% of Japan’s imported oil, which was vital for its military and industrial operations. Japan’s oil reserves were sufficient for only three years under normal conditions, or just over one and a half years if engaged in war. This economic stranglehold left Japan with two stark choices: withdraw from Southeast Asia and negotiate the lifting of sanctions, or seize oil-rich territories by force. Faced with this dilemma and unwilling to abandon its expansionist ambitions, Japan chose military action. This decision culminated in the attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, which brought the United States into World War II.

https://search.brave.com/searc...1dc69492fee9e7c9006f

What's your point? Speak plainly.

I don’t think there’s any interest in cutting China off from oil.

We did force Japan’s hand - but that war was inevitable.

Japan was raping and mass murdering all over China and wanted the Philippines and Hawaii.

MacArthur is not hated enough, for many reasons, but covering for the atrocities of Japan/not prosecuting many of those responsible is one of them.

Long term, yes bringing Iran/Persia and Venezuela into the mainstream markets and giving them access to modern expertise, will definitely drop prices.

As long as we don’t destroy too much of their infrastructure- and I’m not sure why we hit it, at all - it’s not like they are shipping any out - they will drop as soon as the bombing is done.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...3dQTWVFUa8wu%2F4Q%3D

Trump Says War in Iran Is ‘Very Complete,’ Far Ahead of Schedule

The new comments from the president were carried by CBS News on Monday.

President Donald Trump on Monday said that the U.S. operation against Iran is “very complete,” giving an indication that the one-week-long war is coming to an end soon.

“I think the war is very complete, pretty much,” Trump told Weijia Jiang, CBS’s senior White House correspondent. “They have no navy, no communications, they’ve got no Air Force,” he said, according to Jiang.

The CBS also reported asking Trump whether he had a comment for Iran’s new leader Mojtaba Khamenei, who was named by the regime over the past weekend. Trump stated, “I have no message for him. None, whatsoever.”

The president added that the United States is “very far” ahead of the initial four-to-five week estimated timetable.

“They’ve shot everything they have to shoot, and they better not try anything cute, or it’s going to be the end of that country,” he said, referring to Iran’s military.

This is a breaking story. More details will follow.

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Originally posted by creslin:
Pretty sure this thread is about the Iran war - not an airplane.
Go make a new thread about the b-52 if you folks have this dire need to talk about it.

Who/what do you think is prosecuting this war? Airplanes.

And don't you dare say anything bad about the B-52! Them's fightin' words for some of us.

Pentagon identifies seventh soldier killed since commencement of Operation Epic Fury

OAN Staff Sophia Flores | 11:07 AM – Monday, March 9, 2026

The United States Department of War has identified a seventh soldier who has died since the commencement of Operation Epic Fury, the U.S.-led military campaign targeting Iran to dismantle its security infrastructure, including command centers, air defenses and naval assets.

On Sunday, Sgt. Benjamin N. Pennington, 26, of Glendale, Kentucky, reportedly died from injuries he sustained during an enemy attack on March 1, 2026, at the Prince Sultan Air Base, Saudi Arabia.

Pennington had been assigned to 1st Space Battalion, 1st Space Brigade, at Fort Carson, Colorado. He enlisted in the Army as a 92Y, unit supply specialist, in 2017.

During his time in service, he received multiple awards — including three Army Commendation Medals and a Global War on Terrorism Service Medal.

The Army’s Space Brigade, which is stationed across six countries around the world, supports the military’s capabilities in missile warning, GPS tracking, and long-range satellite communications for troops.

The other six U.S. service members who died during Operation Epic Fury were killed after an Iranian drone struck a tactical operations center at Port Shuaiba in Kuwait.

https://www.oann.com/newsroom/...operation-epic-fury/

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Originally posted by Aglifter:

As long as we don’t destroy too much of their infrastructure- and I’m not sure why we hit it, at all

Coalition strikes are mostly on storage and transport infrastructure, not refining... yet. The point seems to be to deny the IRGC and Army fuel to move, fight, or fly.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
https://x.com/HananyaNaftali/s.../2031068894291525809

Man, it just don’t pay to be #1 over there anymore.

Sooner or later, they’ll promote Achmed, the store clerk as their “Supreme Leader”.

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Originally posted by downtownv:
we did this to Japan pre WWI and they lashed out.The United States' cutoff of Japan's oil supply in 1941 had a decisive impact, pushing Japan toward war. By freezing Japanese assets on July 26, 1941, and imposing a full oil embargo on August 1, the U.S. cut off nearly 90% of Japan’s imported oil, which was vital for its military and industrial operations.

Doesn't seem to me that anyone is attempting to cut off China's oil supply. It's just that they won't be getting cut rate, cheap oil from Venezuela or Iran anymore. They'll have to pay market prices.

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Originally posted by Aglifter:
As long as we don’t destroy too much of their infrastructure- and I’m not sure why we hit it, at all

Follow the money. Iran turned over some of their infrastructure to the IRGC and Gemini AI claims it's 50%. 2 oil refineries, a gas field, gas pipelines, etc. For example, the refinery that was blown up was an IRGC refinery.

The IRGC uses revenue from these assets to fund Hezbollah, Iraqi militias, Houthi rebels, ballistic missiles, drones, and maintaining the regime's control over the the population. This is why they're a target.

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Originally posted by Aglifter:
it’s not like they are shipping any out - they will drop as soon as the bombing is done.

What you're saying is true for crude oil as their main export logistics is supertanker. They do have one export crude oil pipeline that bypasses the strait of hormuz and gets crude oil to the Gulf of Oman.

However, Iran is #2 in the world with massive gas reserves and export gas pipelines are the primary export mechanism for their natural gas. Their two reliable ones go to Turkey and Armenia, and they have an unused to Iraq (i.e. could restart). They're mainly using their natural gas for domestic consumption and are only #38 in the world on gas exports.

I view gas as an underutilized resource for the next gov't once the US and Israel collapse the current regime.

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Originally posted by downtownv:
we did this to Japan pre WWI and they lashed out.The United States' cutoff of Japan's oil supply in 1941 had a decisive impact, pushing Japan toward war. By freezing Japanese assets on July 26, 1941, and imposing a full oil embargo on August 1, the U.S. cut off nearly 90% of Japan’s imported oil, which was vital for its military and industrial operations. Japan’s oil reserves were sufficient for only three years under normal conditions, or just over one and a half years if engaged in war. This economic stranglehold left Japan with two stark choices: withdraw from Southeast Asia and negotiate the lifting of sanctions, or seize oil-rich territories by force. Faced with this dilemma and unwilling to abandon its expansionist ambitions, Japan chose military action. This decision culminated in the attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, which brought the United States into World War II.

https://search.brave.com/searc...1dc69492fee9e7c9006f

Telling only part of the story is misleading for those who don’t know. The reason the US cut off oil supply and material supply was because Japan was invading and brutally colonizing China. The Rape of Nanking was just one account of that colonization. Japan back then believed in its racial superiority and adopted an attitude of licentiousness. The US was in effect, mitigating Japan’s ability to seize Indochina.

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Originally posted by darthfuster:
The reason the US cut off oil supply and material supply was because Japan was invading and brutally colonizing China.

Exactly; (darthfuster beat me to it).

This thread is about the war against Iran, but nations, not even insanely militaristic Japan in the 1940s, didn’t attack a country like the US because we stopped selling them oil and scrap metal any more than I set fire to my local supermarket because they stopped selling the custard pies I liked.

Japan was intent on invading and controlling nations in east Asia (“Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere”) and when the US objected to their aggressions and atrocities to point of cutting off sales, they convinced themselves that we might do more later as they did things like invading Malaya, the (then) Dutch East Indies, the Philippines, Singapore, and others in the area as they had previously invaded China and Korea. The reason for the attack on Pearl Harbor was to destroy the US Pacific fleet to make it impossible for us to interfere with their other military actions, at least for a time.

The more sensible Japanese leaders realized that that would be only a temporary block to our actions, but they hoped that by consolidating their gains and gaining an alternative source of oil and other resources that they could in effect establish an exclusion zone that the US wouldn’t have the capability (or will) to break into. Many Japanese leaders plus people like Hitler believed that Americans were so weak and decadent that we had no stomach for a protracted war.

There was no serious reason to believe that the US would have preemptively* attacked Japan despite what some people here believe even to this day, and such an exclusion zone might have worked, especially considering that Britain had its hands full with the war against Nazi Germany. Their amazing blunder was attacking the US and although there is no evidence that Yamamoto said it, that did fill a giant with a terrible resolve. Plus they just had the bad luck of not being able to attack our aircraft carriers at PH. There were certainly many Japanese naval officers who thought that sinking battleships was the most important thing, but others believed that aircraft carriers were a greater danger to them—correctly, as it turned out.

An excellent book that goes into a lot of detail about all that is Sealing Their Fate: The Twenty-two Days That Decided World War II by David Downing.

* A point that doesn’t get much discussion in the histories I’ve read is that the US still had sovereignty over the Philippines in 1941 and had a large military presence there. Japan considered it to be in their “sphere” and had plans to invade it along with the other east Asia countries. If they had, as they did, I imagine the US would have responded by declaring war on Japan, so the Japanese belief that they had to degrade our military capabilities with the PH attack wasn’t totally irrational—only from the standpoint of having no idea of how the US could and would respond.

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