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Originally posted by drill sgt:
In the 1960"s our school systems here in our area had "fish sticks" every friday with no alternate for the non=catholics. And to this day cannot stand the sight and smell of "fish sticks" but enjoy Fried catfish filets. ............ drill sgt.

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Originally posted by Mr. Kook:
Lent isn't a scripturally sound doctrine. It does not come from any part of scripture. It's roots tie back into Babylonian paganism (which preceded Roman paganism). It was 40 days of weeping of Semiramus (called Ishtar in the Roman pantheon) who wept for her son Tammuz (sun god) who was the son also of Nimrod. Tammuz was killed by a boar (biblically unclean animal) while hunting. Ishtar wept for 40 days and Tammuz resurrected.

That's the origin of Lent.

Check Ezekiel chapter 8 for a condemnation of those who weep for Tammuz.

Ishtar, where we get the term "Easter," is a pagan fertility goddess.

No, you don't have to keep Lent. No, you don't have to give up beef and chicken for it.

If you want to do more reading on the subject, just do searches for "Pagan origin of Lent."

Something to consider doing if you really want to study scripture, start in the beginning. Pay close attention to Babylon in Genesis. It plays into a lot of stuff that happens later. From a historical perspective, look into Babylonian sun worship and how it influenced later cultures. Also look into the Babylonian trinity.

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Originally posted by Fed161:


Perhaps more educated readers can provide a scriptural justification for dietary restrictions. I am curious. Also, are there any Christian denominations that prohibit or frown on eating pork?

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Originally posted by jhe888:

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Originally posted by Fed161:


Perhaps more educated readers can provide a scriptural justification for dietary restrictions. I am curious. Also, are there any Christian denominations that prohibit or frown on eating pork?

None, to my knowledge. I don't know how you get a possible restriction on pork out of the passage you mention.

Jews eschew pork because they were commanded to do so in the Torah.

I believe Muslims were so commanded in the Koran, bunt I don't know how or if this is related to Jewish practices.

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Originally posted by Fed161:
A couple weeks ago I decided to read the New Testament. I haven't done any serious scripture reading in many years. I have been reading just one chapter a night. The King James version is not a fast read (at least to me) so I decided on a consistent reading schedule rather than volume. So far the only dietary restriction I have seen would possibly be pork. Last night's reading included a passage about Jesus casting out demons into swine. Ironically, the two religions that I do know have prohibitions against eating pork (swine) are not even Christian - Jews and Muslims.

Perhaps more educated readers can provide a scriptural justification for dietary restrictions. I am curious. Also, are there any Christian denominations that prohibit or frown on eating pork?

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Originally posted by Ryanp225:
I'm at a loss sometimes on trying to understand what the christ worshipers do to appease their god.

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Originally posted by Fredward:
I could be wrong, but I believe the book of Leviticus describes dietary proscriptions. I haven't read it since I was 12 or so. Also, the Worldwide Church of God, if they still exist, prohibit violating those restrictions. (Leviticus Chapter 11.) It sets specific criteria for clean and unclean foods.

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Since Jesus chose to cast the demons into swine...

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Originally posted by drill sgt:
In the 1960"s our school systems here in our area had "fish sticks" every friday with no alternate for the non=catholics. And to this day cannot stand the sight and smell of "fish sticks" but enjoy Fried catfish filets. ............ drill sgt.

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Originally posted by Fed161:
Since Jesus chose to cast the demons into swine, I just wondered if some Christians could conclude that swine as a result are unclean. I realize that's an inference, not a direct commandment to not consume pork.

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Originally posted by jhe888:

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Originally posted by Mr. Kook:
Lent isn't a scripturally sound doctrine. It does not come from any part of scripture. It's roots tie back into Babylonian paganism (which preceded Roman paganism). It was 40 days of weeping of Semiramus (called Ishtar in the Roman pantheon) who wept for her son Tammuz (sun god) who was the son also of Nimrod. Tammuz was killed by a boar (biblically unclean animal) while hunting. Ishtar wept for 40 days and Tammuz resurrected.

That's the origin of Lent.

Check Ezekiel chapter 8 for a condemnation of those who weep for Tammuz.

Ishtar, where we get the term "Easter," is a pagan fertility goddess.

No, you don't have to keep Lent. No, you don't have to give up beef and chicken for it.

If you want to do more reading on the subject, just do searches for "Pagan origin of Lent."

Something to consider doing if you really want to study scripture, start in the beginning. Pay close attention to Babylon in Genesis. It plays into a lot of stuff that happens later. From a historical perspective, look into Babylonian sun worship and how it influenced later cultures. Also look into the Babylonian trinity.

I am sure that those who observe Lent are grateful for your explanation of why they are all washed up and are being non-Christian in their beliefs.

Let me thank you on their behalf.

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Originally posted by Ryanp225:
I'm at a loss sometimes on trying to understand what the christ worshipers do to appease their god.

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Originally posted by mark123:

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Originally posted by Fed161:
A couple weeks ago I decided to read the New Testament. I haven't done any serious scripture reading in many years. I have been reading just one chapter a night. The King James version is not a fast read (at least to me) so I decided on a consistent reading schedule rather than volume. So far the only dietary restriction I have seen would possibly be pork. Last night's reading included a passage about Jesus casting out demons into swine. Ironically, the two religions that I do know have prohibitions against eating pork (swine) are not even Christian - Jews and Muslims.

Perhaps more educated readers can provide a scriptural justification for dietary restrictions. I am curious. Also, are there any Christian denominations that prohibit or frown on eating pork?

Yes, many modern Christian denominations adhere to the dietary laws (along with the rest of the levitical rules). I’m a Christian that finds no biblical basis in the Mosaic covenant being abolished. I believe the modern catholicized church is in error on the subject.

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Originally posted by Black92LX:

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Originally posted by Ryanp225:
I'm at a loss sometimes on trying to understand what the christ worshipers do to appease their god.

That is the whole idea we as Christ followers have to do nothing in regard to appeasement.
Christ took care of all that for us.

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Originally posted by mark123:

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Originally posted by Fed161:
A couple weeks ago I decided to read the New Testament. I haven't done any serious scripture reading in many years. I have been reading just one chapter a night. The King James version is not a fast read (at least to me) so I decided on a consistent reading schedule rather than volume. So far the only dietary restriction I have seen would possibly be pork. Last night's reading included a passage about Jesus casting out demons into swine. Ironically, the two religions that I do know have prohibitions against eating pork (swine) are not even Christian - Jews and Muslims.

Perhaps more educated readers can provide a scriptural justification for dietary restrictions. I am curious. Also, are there any Christian denominations that prohibit or frown on eating pork?

Yes, many modern Christian denominations adhere to the dietary laws (along with the rest of the levitical rules). I’m a Christian that finds no biblical basis in the Mosaic covenant being abolished. I believe the modern catholicized church is in error on the subject.

I am by no means anything resembling a Biblical Scholar.

I take it from Matthew 27:51 and Luke 23:44
When the temple curtain was torn in two when Christ died. All the prior covenants were torn and abolished just like the temple curtain that separated us from the Holy of Hollies.

However, saying that I don’t see anything wrong with following them as a sign of higher adoration.

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Originally posted by mark123:

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Originally posted by Fed161:
Since Jesus chose to cast the demons into swine, I just wondered if some Christians could conclude that swine as a result are unclean. I realize that's an inference, not a direct commandment to not consume pork.

The demons asked to go into the swine and Jesus permitted them. Then they ran into the water and killed themselves. The result was they didn’t want Jesus in their town.